ToolsDaemon

Enverex · 25 April 2004, 00:47

For some odd reason, whenever I try and start a program from the ToolsDaemon menu, the machine will just partially freeze. I can still move the mouse, move windows and bring up the menu, but I can't close windows, click icons or start programs and have to restart (soft) to get control back.

It does this with anything on the menu (other than ToolsPrefs) and does it 9/10 making it pretty useless.

Has anyone else heard of this problem before?

ant512 · 25 April 2004, 01:01

It sounds like the programs are running as foreground processes, which will cause Workbench to hang until they exit - Workbench isn't multithreaded. To fix it, you need to put the "run" command before the program you want to execute, so the command to launch IconEdit (for example) would change from:

SYS:Tools/IconEdit

to:

C:Run <NIL: >NIL: SYS:Tools/IconEdit

Instead of running IconEdit and waiting for it to exit, the system now runs "run", which launches IconEdit as a background process and exits immediately, allowing Workbench to continue normally.

I think that's the problem, anyway.

Bloodwych · 25 April 2004, 01:23

I use toolsdaemon combined with the older and less trouble prone magicmenu which Akira kindly gave me, but only in the ClassicWB LITE.

In the full and above, a Scalos/popupmenu combo is used.

Can't understand why your having issues - worked fine for me. Try running it without any other startup programs. Also try having the WB part selected, although some programs like NewZap have to be run using the CLI string - see below. These functions are explained in the readme.

Enverex · 25 April 2004, 01:33

Doesn't matter if they are set to WB or Cli mode. You may also want to have a look at ToolsPrefs2 which is nice to customise TD with.

Bloodwych · 25 April 2004, 01:44

Thanks, I'll take a look. What WB version are you trying to install this on BTW?

Bloodwych · 25 April 2004, 17:44

The reason I asked about WB version is if it's something newer like 3.9 (going by your virusz thread), the toolsdaemon readme mentions you could encounter problems.

DrBong · 27 April 2004, 06:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bloodwych

The reason I asked about WB version is if it's something newer like 3.9 (going by your virusz thread), the toolsdaemon readme mentions you could encounter problems.

Yep, there's a ToolsDaemon patch on Aminet for use under OS 3.x. Installing the latest BoingBag may also help things.

Enverex · 27 April 2004, 09:38

Yeah, I am using BB2, but I wasn't aware of a patch, cheers DB.

25 April 2004, 00:47	#1
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	ToolsDaemon For some odd reason, whenever I try and start a program from the ToolsDaemon menu, the machine will just partially freeze. I can still move the mouse, move windows and bring up the menu, but I can't close windows, click icons or start programs and have to restart (soft) to get control back. It does this with anything on the menu (other than ToolsPrefs) and does it 9/10 making it pretty useless. Has anyone else heard of this problem before?

25 April 2004, 01:23	#3
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	I use toolsdaemon combined with the older and less trouble prone magicmenu which Akira kindly gave me, but only in the ClassicWB LITE. In the full and above, a Scalos/popupmenu combo is used. Can't understand why your having issues - worked fine for me. Try running it without any other startup programs. Also try having the WB part selected, although some programs like NewZap have to be run using the CLI string - see below. These functions are explained in the readme. Attached Thumbnails

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25 April 2004, 01:01	#2
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 964	It sounds like the programs are running as foreground processes, which will cause Workbench to hang until they exit - Workbench isn't multithreaded. To fix it, you need to put the "run" command before the program you want to execute, so the command to launch IconEdit (for example) would change from: SYS:Tools/IconEdit to: C:Run <NIL: >NIL: SYS:Tools/IconEdit Instead of running IconEdit and waiting for it to exit, the system now runs "run", which launches IconEdit as a background process and exits immediately, allowing Workbench to continue normally. I think that's the problem, anyway.

25 April 2004, 01:33	#4
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	Doesn't matter if they are set to WB or Cli mode. You may also want to have a look at ToolsPrefs2 which is nice to customise TD with.

25 April 2004, 01:44	#5
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	Thanks, I'll take a look. What WB version are you trying to install this on BTW?

25 April 2004, 17:44	#6
Bloodwych Moderator Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: I'm behind you! Posts: 3,763	The reason I asked about WB version is if it's something newer like 3.9 (going by your virusz thread), the toolsdaemon readme mentions you could encounter problems.

27 April 2004, 09:38	#8
Enverex Fantasy Man! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,353	Yeah, I am using BB2, but I wasn't aware of a patch, cheers DB.

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