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Old 20 January 2021, 00:03   #41
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same SCI32 problem for Larry7 (and Gabriel Knight 1) ?

Games not supported by v1.4-v1.5 (Novacoder) / v1.8.1 (Tuko) / v2.1.2-v2.2beta (Arti):

SCI games not supported:
Gabriel Knight 1 (1993 Sierra) SCI 320×200 / 640×480 256 (error)
King’s Quest 7 (1994 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Hoyle 5 (1995-1996 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Leisure Suit Larry 6 HR (1993 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error) (version SCI 320×200 256 work)
Leisure Suit Larry 7 (1996 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Police Quest 5 swat (1995 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Space Quest 6 (1995 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Torin’s Passage (1995 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Gabriel Knight 2 (1995 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Lighthouse (1996 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Phantasmagoria 1 (1995 Sierra) SCI 630×450 256 (error)
Phantasmagoria 2 (1996 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Rama (1996 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Shivers (1995 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (error)
Mixed up 1 mother goose deluxe (1995 Sierra) SCI 640×480 256 (cursor very slow)

other games that require fixes to work or unsupported:
Blue Force (1993 Tsunami) TSAGE 320×200 256 (frozen)
DreamWeb (1994 Creative Reality) Dreamweb 320×200/640x480 256 (frozen)
Future Wars (1989 Delphine Software) Cine 320×200 16 (error)
I have no mouth (1995 Dreamers Guild) Saga 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Inherit The Earth (1994 Dreamers Guild) Saga 320×200 256 (not recognized)
Myst 1 (1993 Broderbund) Mohawk 544x332, 256 (not recognized)
Operation Stealth (1990 Delphine Software) CineEvo1 320×200 256 (error)
Rex Nebular (1992 Microprose) MADS 320×200 256 (not recognized)
Ringworld 1 Revenge Patriarch (1992 Tsunami) TSAGE 320×200 256 (frozen)
Ringworld 2 Return (1994 Tsunami) TSAGE 320×200 256 (frozen)
Sherlock Holmes 1 Serrated Scalpel (1992 Mythos) Sherlock 320×200 256
Sherlock Holmes 2 Rose Tattoo (1996 Mythos) Sherlock 640×480 256
Soltys (1995 LK Avalon) SGE 320×200 256 (fail after intro)
Ultima 4 (1988 Origin/Microprose) ultima 320×200 16
Ultima 6 (1992 Origin) ultima 320×200 256
Ultima 8 (1994 origin) Ultima ultima 320×200 256
Voyeur (1993 Interplay) dreammaster 320×200 256 (frozen after intro)
Zork 2 Nemesis (1996 Activision) Zvision 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Zork 3 Grand Inquisitor (1997 Activision) Zvision 640×480 256 (not recognized)


16bits or more unsupported:
Blade Runner (1997 Westwood/Virgin) Blade 640×480 16b (not recognized)
Blazing Dragons (1996 Crystal Dynamics) (PSX) Dragons 320×200 16b (not recognized)
Broken Sword 2.5 (2008 mindFactory) Sword25 800×600 24b (not recognized)
Full Pipe (2003 Pipe Studio/Daedalic) FullPipe (not recognized)
Hopkins FBI (1998 MP Entertainment) Hopkins 640×480 16b (not recognized)
Hyperspace Delivery Boy (2001 Monkeystone) HDB 640×480 24b (not recognized)
Journeyman Project Pegasus Prime (1997 Presto) Pegasus 640×480 16b (not recognized)
Last Express (1997 Smoking Car) Lastexpress 640×480 24b (not recognized)
Moonbase Commander (2002 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 16b (not recognized)
Myst 1 Masterpiece (1999 Broderbund) 640x480 24b (not recognized)
Myst 2 Riven (1997 Broderbund) Mohawk 604×436 24b 16b (not recognized)
Starship Titanic (1998 Digital Village) TITANIC 640×480 16b (not recognized)
Tony Tough 1 (1997 Nayma) TONY 640×480 16b (not recognized)
UFOs (1997 Artech/Corel) GNAP 800×600 (not recognized)
Urban Runner (1996 Coktel/Sierra) Gob 640×480 24b (error)

Junior game unsupported:
Activity Pack Pajama Sam (2001 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 16b (not recognized)
Backyard Baseball (1997 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Backyard Baseball 2001 (2000 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Backyard Baseball 2003 (2002 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Backyard Basketball (2002 Humongous) (non jouable) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Backyard Football (1999 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Backyard Football 2002 (2001 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Backyard Soccer (1998 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Backyard Soccer 2002 (2001 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Backyard Soccer 2004 (2003 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Freddi Fish 2 haunted schoolbus (1996 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (error)
Freddi Fish 3 stolen conch (1998 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (error)
Freddi Fish 4 hogfish rustlers (1999 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (error)
Freddi Fish 5 creature coral (2001 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Freddi fish arcade 1 maze (1996 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Freddi fish arcade 2 water (1996 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Pajama Sam 1 need hide (1996 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (error)
Pajama Sam 2 thunder lightening (1998 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (error)
Pajama sam arcade 1 sock (1997 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Pajama sam arcade 2 lost (1998 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Putt Putt 3 saves zoo (1995 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (error)
Putt Putt 4 travels through time (1997 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (error)
Putt Putt 6 joins circus (2000 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (error)
Putt putt arcade 1 stick (1996 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Putt putt arcade 2 balloon (1996 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Spy fox arcade 1 chase (1999 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Spy fox arcade 2 hold (1999 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)
Spy Fox 1 dry cereal (1997 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (error)
Spy Fox 2 some assembly (1999 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (error)
Spy Fox 3 operation ozone (2001 Humongous) SCUMM 640×480 256 (not recognized)

Scumm v2.3: (not yet supported by v2.2)
Little Big Adventure 1 (1994 Adeline Software/Electronic Arts) TWINE 640×480 256
Red Comrades 1 RU (1998 Buka) (ScummVm v2.3) PETKA 640×480 256
Red Comrades 2 RU (1999 Buka) (ScummVm v2.3) PETKA 640×480 256

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Old 20 January 2021, 14:47   #42
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This is probably a daft question, but hey, it had to be asked.

GOG released a version of the 1997 Westwood game, Blade Runner, quite recently. They needed to use SCUMM VM in order to get it running, so....... could that be made to work on an Amiga?

It is reputed to be an excellent game. [ Show youtube player ]

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Old 20 January 2021, 16:44   #43
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Gabriel Knight it is a must have. Will be good take a look to that one guys! (arti & pipper)
(Blade Runner too)
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Old 20 January 2021, 20:55   #44
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Supporting 16bit games is non trivial and out of question for AGA. There is simply not the code there for AmigaOS. Unfortunately I don’t have the time to spend.
8Bit games should in general work, though some will be extremely slow. Monkey3 is one of those games - it runs but is too slow to play meaningfully. The ScummVM code is just not written with 50MHz CPUs in mind :-)
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Old 21 January 2021, 00:12   #45
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Supporting 16bit games is non trivial and out of question for AGA. There is simply not the code there for AmigaOS. Unfortunately I don’t have the time to spend.
8Bit games should in general work, though some will be extremely slow. Monkey3 is one of those games - it runs but is too slow to play meaningfully. The ScummVM code is just not written with 50MHz CPUs in mind :-)
But Gabriel Knight is 256 colors. It runs perfectly in my old Macintosh 630 with a 68040.
Please, try it.
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Old 21 January 2021, 23:23   #46
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I uploaded a built of ScummVM 2.2.0 for OS3/AGA/RTG to the zone, with as many engines as would compile. I did not test it thoroughly. I briefly checked Gabriel Knight and SpaceQuest6, but both hung - I suspect a bug somewhere.

Good thing is that this endeavor also uncovered a new compiler bug in Bebbo's GCC when trying to compile the SAGA engine ("I have no mouth and I must scream") ;-)
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Old 21 January 2021, 23:28   #47
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But Gabriel Knight is 256 colors. It runs perfectly in my old Macintosh 630 with a 68040.
Please, try it.
Out of interest, have you tried running the Mac version with Shapeshifter/Fusion on an Amiga?
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Out of interest, have you tried running the Mac version with Shapeshifter/Fusion on an Amiga?
I remember I tried it years ago and yes. it worked in Shapeshifter.
But the nice thing is that it can run natively in the Amiga's ScummVM.
Gabriel Knight is perhaps the best or one of the best games that SIERRA made in all its history.
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But the nice thing is that it can run natively in the Amiga's ScummVM.
I'd argue that running the 040 version of Gabriel Knight in Shapeshifter might actually be considered _more_ 'native' than running ScummVM. Remember that ScummVM is a potentially inefficient re-implementation of the SCI2 engine, while the actual port is the original engine running.
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Thank Pipper

which theme file should you use with your new version? those in your gifthub do not work, and those with the arti version either
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I uploaded a built of ScummVM 2.2.0 for OS3/AGA/RTG to the zone, with as many engines as would compile. I did not test it thoroughly. I briefly checked Gabriel Knight and SpaceQuest6, but both hung - I suspect a bug somewhere.

Good thing is that this endeavor also uncovered a new compiler bug in Bebbo's GCC when trying to compile the SAGA engine ("I have no mouth and I must scream") ;-)
Great! testing time.....

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I'd argue that running the 040 version of Gabriel Knight in Shapeshifter might actually be considered _more_ 'native' than running ScummVM. Remember that ScummVM is a potentially inefficient re-implementation of the SCI2 engine, while the actual port is the original engine running.
You're right but all sierra/lucas games havent alternative language versions (no spanish for example) and no real MIDI (MT-32 or SC-55) support if I use Shapeshifter.

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Hello pipper:

Some results from your version:

conquest of the longbow
ERROR:SegManager: Failed to open vocab 996!

Eco Quest I
ERROR:SegManager: Failed to open vocab 996!

King Quest V
ERROR:SegManager: Failed to open vocab 996!

Police Quest II
ERROR:SegManager: Failed to open vocab 996!

Police Quest I (SCI)
ERROR: Script and heap 989 sizes combined exceed 64k. This means a fundamental design bug was made regarding SCI mes.

Quest for glory II
ERROR:SegManager: Failed to open vocab 996!

Space Quest I (SCI)
ERROR: Script 0 not found!

Space Quest IV
ERROR:SegManager: Failed to open vocab 996!


(P.D. All these games works perfectly with arti 2.2 WIP version)
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Old 22 January 2021, 02:04   #53
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New games supported by v2.2 AGA/RTG Pipper (for AGA, use tooltype: FORCE_AGA)

Rex Nebular (1992 Microprose) MADS 320×200 256
Sherlock Holmes 1 Serrated Scalpel (1992 Mythos) Sherlock 320×200 256
Sherlock Holmes 2 Rose Tattoo (1996 Mythos) Sherlock 640×480 256
Soltys (1995 LK Avalon) SGE 320×200 256
Voyeur (1993 Interplay) dreammaster 320×200 256

Junior games:
Backyard Baseball (1997 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Backyard Football (1999 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Backyard Soccer (1998 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Freddi Fish 2 haunted schoolbus (1996 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Freddi Fish 3 stolen conch (1998 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Freddi Fish 4 hogfish rustlers (1999 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Freddi fish arcade 1 maze (1996 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Freddi fish arcade 2 water (1996 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Pajama Sam 1 need hide (1996 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Pajama Sam 2 thunder lightening (1998 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Pajama sam arcade 1 sock (1997 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Pajama sam arcade 2 lost (1998 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Putt Putt 3 saves zoo (1995 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Putt Putt 4 travels through time (1997 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Putt Putt 6 joins circus (2000 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Putt putt arcade 1 stick (1996 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Putt putt arcade 2 balloon (1996 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Spy Fox 1 dry cereal (1997 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Spy Fox 2 some assembly (1999 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Spy fox arcade 1 chase (1999 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Spy fox arcade 2 hold (1999 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256

kid games:
Big Thinkers First Grade (1997 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Big Thinkers Kindergarten (1997 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Blue’s ABC Time Activities (1999 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Blue’s 123 Time Activities (1999 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Blue’s Treasure Hunt (1999 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Blue’s Birthday Adventure (1999 Humongous) Scumm 640×480 256
Magic Tales 1 baba yaga (1995 Davidson) Composer 640x480 256
Magic Tales 2 little samurai (1995 Davidson) Composer 640x480 256
Magic Tales 3 imo king (1995 Davidson) Composer 640x480 256
Magic Tales 4 sleeping test (1996 Davidson) Composer 640x480 256
Magic Tales 5 princess crab (1996 Davidson) Composer 640x480 256
Magic Tales 6 liam finds (1996 Davidson) Composer 640x480 256

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Old 22 January 2021, 02:09   #54
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The issues with SCI games is likely related to optimizations I had implemented. When SCI32 is enabled, these optimizations must be disabled (because they are incompatible with SCI32). Maybe that selective disable is not working correctly
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Only v1.8.1 has partial support for SCI32 games.

http://aminet.net/package/game/misc/scummvm-1.8.1-rtg

Official support for SCI32 will appear with v2.x versions
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