Great Giana Sisters featured in Edge-Online this week - "Copycat" article

08 March 2010, 12:21

http://www.edge-online.com/features/...opycat-edition

I'm no longer a fan of Edge now that it's even more heavily weighted down by the jobs and ads at the back, but imo the newsletter is worth signing up for.

Dan Locke · 09 March 2010, 01:25

Glad to know that I'm not the only one with a burning hatred for The Great Giana Sisters.

Retro-Nerd · 09 March 2010, 01:40

Puuh, what a ridiculous "copycat" comment about GGS. I still don't get it, even after 20 year i have to read such a bs..again and again.

Djay · 09 March 2010, 02:28

the reason i never played GGS is because i aleady owned the superior Super Mario World (also later Super Mario Allstars)

i didnt really ever look to the Amiga to play weaker clones of console games, indeed i was kinda lucky, at the same time owned a Megadrive (Genesis) so never moaned about where a Amiga version of Sonic was, even in 2004.

For me there are things that just can't copied, like owning a real Amiga over using WinUAE all of the time... having said that WinUAE is a legend in its own right and will of course out live the thing it emulates...

... back to GGS, who are Edge? a magazine! It is only alive because it reports on other people's work... hmmm cousin of cloning i think! And who are they to say that GGS shouldnt be a part of gaming history... for various reasons

further more, so many things are DIRECT copies now... take Wii's virtual console or Xbox Arcade... in a land far far away this should also be frowned upon by Edge... indeed Edge have always been up their own arse

EDIT > thats how you rant

blade002 · 09 March 2010, 06:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djay

... back to GGS, who are Edge? a magazine! It is only alive because it reports on other people's work... hmmm cousin of cloning i think! And who are they to say that GGS shouldnt be a part of gaming history... for various reasons

further more, so many things are DIRECT copies now... take Wii's virtual console or Xbox Arcade... in a land far far away this should also be frowned upon by Edge... indeed Edge have always been up their own arse

EDIT > thats how you rant

Before EDGE magazine became EDGE, i think its earlier incarnation was called ACE (Advanced Computer Entertainment) which was a FAR SUPERIOR publication without the BIAS of particular games, genre's and systems that are present within the cock heads at EDGE.

You are dead right, the guys at EDGE are definitely up their own arses and i for one cannot tolerate the magazine for that reason.

So EDGE, if you are reading this! read some old issues of the British publication ACE and learn how to "truly" report on the world of gaming!

Merlin · 09 March 2010, 09:58

Phew!

For a moment, I thought it was an article about BastiBS.....

/me runs and hides

TCD · 09 March 2010, 10:07

Ah, nice to see the fire is still burning after 22 years

You forgot to mention that the C64 version is far superior Retro

Retro-Nerd · 09 March 2010, 16:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Ah, nice to see the fire is still burning after 22 years

You forgot to mention that the C64 version is far superior Retro

It is better for sure, and i mentioned it probably 2-3 times on EAB. But that wasn't my point. More crap words like these.

Quote:

And it may have copied Mario’s ideas, but it never managed to replicate the feel of his world. The charmless sisters have no weight, no delightful inertia, and while the levels may be built from the same basic blocks, they haven’t been pieced together with the same devious simplicity that rewards the fiftieth playthough as much as the first. Perhaps that’s the value of copycats: standard rip-off jobs like Star Beacon and Giana Sisters only really leave you with an increased appreciation of the original.

TCD · 09 March 2010, 16:14

I know... Didn't want to comment on that and you know what I think about GGS. laffer should do a 'back-to-back' play of GGS and SMB one day

mike4466 · 09 March 2010, 16:54

When i think of g.g.s its the music i think off and not the game if you turn the sound off you realise how terrible it is compared to mario.
Its the same with games like sanxion c64 & warhawk c64 i have fond memories of the music and not the game the programmers knew their games was crap and they just got rob hubbard martin galway etc to disguise the bad game.
me & my mates used to buy games on the c64 & amiga just because of the great music or it had sampled sound on it.
just shows how brainwashed we were in the heyday.

Retro1234 · 09 March 2010, 17:00

Great Giana Sisters isnt that bad and the very fact it was a copycat and was banned has immortalized it - It was a School yard hit being passed around and as someone on YouTube said about the Red Sector mod "Anyone who's played Giana Sisters knows it by heart.

".

TCD · 09 March 2010, 17:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boo Boo

It was a School yard hit being passed around...

Try that with your SMB cartridges! Hah!

Retro-Nerd · 09 March 2010, 17:10

I've played both a lot. GGS is a good computer platformer and SMB a good console platformer..full stop. The rest is console/SMB biased talk.

mike4466 · 09 March 2010, 17:22

For me it was fact that it was all too samey not much thought gone in to the various levels and the great music was only making it seem a great game.
like i said the true test is to turn the sound off in games and see how good the game is then and you will realise how many games you thought were great turn out to be not so good and how fooled you were by the music making you think the game is better than it is.

Retro-Nerd · 09 March 2010, 17:26

The sound has nothing to do with the gameplay. I'm tired of reading such imcompetent phrases again and again. Armalyte e.g. has NO in-game sound and i still think it's one of the best C64 2D shooters ever.

@mike4466

Don't take it personally.

Retro1234 · 09 March 2010, 17:30

Well I was talking about the cracktro the fact the cracktro is so well known shows the game was popular it did what it was ment to do quite well.

mike4466 · 09 March 2010, 17:35

i agree armalyte is a great game delta c64 also is fantastic even with the sound off these are the true great games of yesteryear and not hyped up with the sound,just pure playability factor.

Retro1234 · 09 March 2010, 17:40

SomeOne should make a Map editor

StarEye · 09 March 2010, 18:12

Heh, I love GGS, I think it's very playable and well designed. Anyone who says otherwise have brown Nintendo noses.

stefcep2 · 12 March 2010, 01:03

i find its better with a joypad.

08 March 2010, 12:21	#1
mancalledSun Posts: n/a	Great Giana Sisters featured in Edge-Online this week - "Copycat" article http://www.edge-online.com/features/...opycat-edition I'm no longer a fan of Edge now that it's even more heavily weighted down by the jobs and ads at the back, but imo the newsletter is worth signing up for.

09 March 2010, 02:28	#4
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	the reason i never played GGS is because i aleady owned the superior Super Mario World (also later Super Mario Allstars) i didnt really ever look to the Amiga to play weaker clones of console games, indeed i was kinda lucky, at the same time owned a Megadrive (Genesis) so never moaned about where a Amiga version of Sonic was, even in 2004. For me there are things that just can't copied, like owning a real Amiga over using WinUAE all of the time... having said that WinUAE is a legend in its own right and will of course out live the thing it emulates... ... back to GGS, who are Edge? a magazine! It is only alive because it reports on other people's work... hmmm cousin of cloning i think! And who are they to say that GGS shouldnt be a part of gaming history... for various reasons further more, so many things are DIRECT copies now... take Wii's virtual console or Xbox Arcade... in a land far far away this should also be frowned upon by Edge... indeed Edge have always been up their own arse EDIT > thats how you rant Last edited by Djay; 09 March 2010 at 02:35.

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09 March 2010, 01:25	#2
Dan Locke Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: USA Posts: 111	Glad to know that I'm not the only one with a burning hatred for The Great Giana Sisters.

09 March 2010, 01:40	#3
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	Puuh, what a ridiculous "copycat" comment about GGS. I still don't get it, even after 20 year i have to read such a bs..again and again.

09 March 2010, 09:58	#6
Merlin AmiBay MegaMod Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Age: 62 Posts: 1,163	Phew! For a moment, I thought it was an article about BastiBS..... /me runs and hides

09 March 2010, 10:07	#7
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	Ah, nice to see the fire is still burning after 22 years You forgot to mention that the C64 version is far superior Retro

09 March 2010, 16:14	#9
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,525	I know... Didn't want to comment on that and you know what I think about GGS. laffer should do a 'back-to-back' play of GGS and SMB one day

09 March 2010, 16:54	#10
mike4466 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: grimsby Posts: 291	When i think of g.g.s its the music i think off and not the game if you turn the sound off you realise how terrible it is compared to mario. Its the same with games like sanxion c64 & warhawk c64 i have fond memories of the music and not the game the programmers knew their games was crap and they just got rob hubbard martin galway etc to disguise the bad game. me & my mates used to buy games on the c64 & amiga just because of the great music or it had sampled sound on it. just shows how brainwashed we were in the heyday.

09 March 2010, 17:00	#11
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Great Giana Sisters isnt that bad and the very fact it was a copycat and was banned has immortalized it - It was a School yard hit being passed around and as someone on YouTube said about the Red Sector mod "Anyone who's played Giana Sisters knows it by heart. ".

09 March 2010, 17:10	#13
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	I've played both a lot. GGS is a good computer platformer and SMB a good console platformer..full stop. The rest is console/SMB biased talk.

09 March 2010, 17:22	#14
mike4466 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: grimsby Posts: 291	For me it was fact that it was all too samey not much thought gone in to the various levels and the great music was only making it seem a great game. like i said the true test is to turn the sound off in games and see how good the game is then and you will realise how many games you thought were great turn out to be not so good and how fooled you were by the music making you think the game is better than it is.

09 March 2010, 17:26	#15
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	The sound has nothing to do with the gameplay. I'm tired of reading such imcompetent phrases again and again. Armalyte e.g. has NO in-game sound and i still think it's one of the best C64 2D shooters ever. @mike4466 Don't take it personally.

09 March 2010, 17:30	#16
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Well I was talking about the cracktro the fact the cracktro is so well known shows the game was popular it did what it was ment to do quite well.

09 March 2010, 17:35	#17
mike4466 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: grimsby Posts: 291	i agree armalyte is a great game delta c64 also is fantastic even with the sound off these are the true great games of yesteryear and not hyped up with the sound,just pure playability factor.

09 March 2010, 17:40	#18
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	SomeOne should make a Map editor

09 March 2010, 18:12	#19
StarEye Zone Friend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norway Age: 46 Posts: 987	Heh, I love GGS, I think it's very playable and well designed. Anyone who says otherwise have brown Nintendo noses.

12 March 2010, 01:03	#20
stefcep2 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Melbourne/Australia Posts: 226	i find its better with a joypad.

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