Topaz 8 is too small

Michael Sykes · 16 April 2017, 17:52

I got one of these UHD monitors and realized that the workbench runs fine in 4k. But the default tpaz font that old stuff like delitracker uses is way too small(still readable).
I know there are ways to patch it to other 8 point fonts but that would not solve the issue I have.
Is there any way to scale it?

emufan · 16 April 2017, 22:25

not tested, but worth a try:
if you for example patched delitracker to use funny font size 8.
and this funny font has size 11 too, just replace the font size 8 with 11:
copy fonts:funny/11 -> fonts:funny/8
so the program will load "fonts:funny/8" which is size 11 now.

Mrz · 17 April 2017, 12:02

yes the topaz font sucks in high res, was designed for a resolution of 640x256
in aminet there are some patches or fonts replacements for this issue

check here

http://aminet.net/search?query=replace+topaz

thomas · 17 April 2017, 16:20

But the programs won't change their window size. If the font is bigger than 8x8 it simply draws outside of the GUI elements. A program which uses Topaz even if the user selected other fonts in preferences, then the program is not font sensitive and won't change its GUI size.

Michael Sykes · 17 April 2017, 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomas

But the programs won't change their window size. If the font is bigger than 8x8 it simply draws outside of the GUI elements. A program which uses Topaz even if the user selected other fonts in preferences, then the program is not font sensitive and won't change its GUI size.

Sad but I guess you are right...

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mark_k · 17 April 2017, 19:22

MKSLens

Or, open a lower-res public screen (640×200 say) and tell DeliTracker to open its window on that. You can configure WinUAE to scale the lower-res screen so it fills more of your monitor.

gulliver · 17 April 2017, 19:27

I dont know if its the fault of high resolution screens that we have nowadays, or its just more that age is biting our asses

We are not getting any younger.

Noth · 17 April 2017, 23:07

It's a general problem with ultra high res displays. Try remote desktoping from a 3200x1800 13" display like I have, 1280x960 remote looks tiny and it's hard to make it scale, depending on OS.

mark_k · 17 April 2017, 23:13

It would be nice (not a complete solution to this problem though) if you could define scan-doubled RTG modes in WinUAE. So e.g. 3840×1080 would have the same tall pixel aspect as a normal high-res non-interlaced Workbench. And 8-pixel Topaz would be double height.

Cylon · 17 April 2017, 23:24

Just make it Autoscale/Autocenter/FullscreenMax and select any screenmode you want in UAE. Don't see the problem here.

16 April 2017, 17:52	#1
Michael Sykes WinUAE end user Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Bremen Age: 44 Posts: 649	Topaz 8 is too small I got one of these UHD monitors and realized that the workbench runs fine in 4k. But the default tpaz font that old stuff like delitracker uses is way too small(still readable). I know there are ways to patch it to other 8 point fonts but that would not solve the issue I have. Is there any way to scale it?

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16 April 2017, 22:25	#2
emufan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: #DrainTheSwamp Posts: 4,545	not tested, but worth a try: if you for example patched delitracker to use funny font size 8. and this funny font has size 11 too, just replace the font size 8 with 11: copy fonts:funny/11 -> fonts:funny/8 so the program will load "fonts:funny/8" which is size 11 now.

17 April 2017, 12:02	#3
Mrz Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: I Posts: 338	yes the topaz font sucks in high res, was designed for a resolution of 640x256 in aminet there are some patches or fonts replacements for this issue check here http://aminet.net/search?query=replace+topaz

17 April 2017, 16:20	#4
thomas Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 6,985	But the programs won't change their window size. If the font is bigger than 8x8 it simply draws outside of the GUI elements. A program which uses Topaz even if the user selected other fonts in preferences, then the program is not font sensitive and won't change its GUI size.

17 April 2017, 19:22	#6
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 3,333	MKSLens Or, open a lower-res public screen (640×200 say) and tell DeliTracker to open its window on that. You can configure WinUAE to scale the lower-res screen so it fills more of your monitor.

17 April 2017, 19:27	#7
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	I dont know if its the fault of high resolution screens that we have nowadays, or its just more that age is biting our asses We are not getting any younger.

17 April 2017, 23:07	#8
Noth Registered User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Lausanne, Switzerland Posts: 184	It's a general problem with ultra high res displays. Try remote desktoping from a 3200x1800 13" display like I have, 1280x960 remote looks tiny and it's hard to make it scale, depending on OS.

17 April 2017, 23:13	#9
mark_k Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Posts: 3,333	It would be nice (not a complete solution to this problem though) if you could define scan-doubled RTG modes in WinUAE. So e.g. 3840×1080 would have the same tall pixel aspect as a normal high-res non-interlaced Workbench. And 8-pixel Topaz would be double height.

17 April 2017, 23:24	#10
Cylon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Europe Posts: 470	Just make it Autoscale/Autocenter/FullscreenMax and select any screenmode you want in UAE. Don't see the problem here.

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