Bomb Jack Beer Edition - Page 14

hexaae · 30 May 2018, 22:53

Great work!

This one works much better: no more issues with faaast AGA systems…

Current known bugs or misfeatures:
- keypresses "pass through" to the Workbench screen (for example if in game you press DEL, when you quit you'll see Workbench asking you to delete selected file)
- no Pause (P) and Quit (ESC) keys?

EDIT:
still random issues with the game quitting automatically right after I select "Start Game": the game starts but after loading the stage and the "Start!" msg the game simply quits by itself.

mcgeezer · 30 May 2018, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexaae

Great work!

This one works much better: no more issues with faaast AGA systems…

Current known bugs or misfeatures:
- keypresses "pass through" to the Workbench screen (for example if in game you press DEL, when you quit you'll see Workbench asking you to delete selected file)
- no Pause (P) and Quit (ESC) keys?

EDIT:
still random issues with the game quitting automatically right after I select "Start Game": the game starts but after loading the stage and the "Start!" msg the game simply quits by itself.

The keyboard code was buggy, i had to remove it to get the cd32 stuff working and i had limited time - sorry.

I’d be interested in seeing a video of what you mean with the auto quit problem?

- i actually have a feeling i know what this is, can i send u a private build to try tomorrow?

Geezer

saimon69 · 30 May 2018, 23:53

Steril, can you please let me know which songs are the ones that misplay so that will give it a second look? Bass instrument is a bit moody and need to finetune it song by song

hexaae · 31 May 2018, 07:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

The keyboard code was buggy, i had to remove it to get the cd32 stuff working and i had limited time - sorry.

I’d be interested in seeing a video of what you mean with the auto quit problem?

- i actually have a feeling i know what this is, can i send u a private build to try tomorrow?

Geezer

Sure! PM me, the game is great, we have just to iron out the last few annoyances

I'll do a short video for the auto-quit strange issue.

hexaae · 21 June 2018, 21:36

No WHDLoad for this game?
It isn't very clean with the OS, here is part of a WinUAEEnforcer report:

Code:

...
Enforcer Hit! Bad program
Illegal LONG WRITE to: fffffeb8                 PC: 112d9eb4
Data: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: fffffec0 112e2140 00000000 00000000 00000000 00dff000 112e9950 1113a85c
Stck: 0000000c 112d94ae 0000000c 112de184 1113b330 000003b8 746f0000 00000041
Stck: 1113a8d0 556e2769 6d6d6167 696e6520 76657272 c3a0206d 6f737472 61746120
Stck: 64617661 6e746920 61640a6f 676e6920 6e6f646f 20636f6e 74656e65 6e746520
Stck: 64656920 736f7474 6f2d6e6f 64692e00 104c84a4 1108132d 00010001 00010001
Stck: 11135a90 00000000 110810d4 00fa48a8 ffffffff 11113a80 00000001 00000000
112d9e94 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9e98 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9e9c :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ea0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ea4 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ea8 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eac :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eb0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eb4 : * 48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eb8 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ebc :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ec0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ec4 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ec8 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ecc :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ed0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ed4 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
Name: "Background CLI"

Enforcer Hit! Bad program
Illegal LONG WRITE to: fffffeb4                 PC: 112d9eb4
Data: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: fffffec0 112e2140 00000000 00000000 00000000 00dff000 112e9950 1113a85c
Stck: 0000000c 112d94ae 0000000c 112de184 1113b330 000003b8 746f0000 00000041
Stck: 1113a8d0 556e2769 6d6d6167 696e6520 76657272 c3a0206d 6f737472 61746120
Stck: 64617661 6e746920 61640a6f 676e6920 6e6f646f 20636f6e 74656e65 6e746520
Stck: 64656920 736f7474 6f2d6e6f 64692e00 104c84a4 1108132d 00010001 00010001
Stck: 11135a90 00000000 110810d4 00fa48a8 ffffffff 11113a80 00000001 00000000
112d9e94 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9e98 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9e9c :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ea0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ea4 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ea8 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eac :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eb0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eb4 : * 48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eb8 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ebc :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ec0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ec4 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ec8 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ecc :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ed0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ed4 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
Name: "Background CLI"

Enforcer Hit! Bad program
Illegal LONG WRITE to: fffffeb0                 PC: 112d9eb4
Data: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
Addr: fffffec0 112e2140 00000000 00000000 00000000 00dff000 112e9950 1113a85c
Stck: 0000000c 112d94ae 0000000c 112de184 1113b330 000003b8 746f0000 00000041
Stck: 1113a8d0 556e2769 6d6d6167 696e6520 76657272 c3a0206d 6f737472 61746120
Stck: 64617661 6e746920 61640a6f 676e6920 6e6f646f 20636f6e 74656e65 6e746520
Stck: 64656920 736f7474 6f2d6e6f 64692e00 104c84a4 1108132d 00010001 00010001
Stck: 11135a90 00000000 110810d4 00fa48a8 ffffffff 11113a80 00000001 00000000
112d9e94 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9e98 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9e9c :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ea0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ea4 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ea8 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eac :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eb0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eb4 : * 48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9eb8 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ebc :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ec0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ec4 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ec8 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ecc :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ed0 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
112d9ed4 :   48e0 ff00            MVMLE.L #$ff00,-(A0)
Name: "Background CLI"
…

It also doesn't filter keyboard input: if in-game you press some keyboard key, when you Quit to WB you'll see this output in the shell from which you launched the game.
Would be also a great ESC to quit to main menu, and P to Pause….

Game is a great free remake, but needs friendly approach with the OS IMHO

DamienD · 21 June 2018, 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexaae

It isn't very clean with the OS

Maybe not with OS 3.5 and above

Quote:

Originally Posted by hexaae

It also doesn't filter keyboard input: if in-game you press some keyboard key, when you Quit to WB you'll see this output in the shell from which you launched the game.

That happens with loads of games; big deal...

hexaae · 21 June 2018, 22:21

Mmmh, OS3.5 and 040...

mcgeezer · 21 June 2018, 22:30

If I get some time after the World Cup then I'll look into it.

The game was built for stock Amiga's running KS 1.3, it was then adapted to work with AGA. If you're desperate then maybe appeal to one of the other coders as I made the source code available also.

I literally have no idea about OS3+ etc, I don't even know how to install it.

That side of the Amiga doesn't hold much interest for me... anything released up to and including CD32 does though.

If i get time I will take a look, but I can't promise anything..sorry.

DamienD · 21 June 2018, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

If I get some time after the World Cup then I'll look into it.

You're a better man than me my friend; personally I wouldn't bother... you can't possibly accommodate for people's weird and wonderful setups (and nor should you). If a game doesn't work on an OS above the "classics" i.e. 1.3 - 3.1, then that's their problem really

@hexaae; you run everything via emulation so why not just use an A500 or A1200 configuration and the floppy disk FFS...

You can use you're fancy / buggy OS (as noted by your [only] many WinUAE "bug reports") for other things.

Aladin · 21 June 2018, 22:58

@hexaae
You can test

Whdload Generic BombJack Beer Edition

hexaae · 21 June 2018, 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcgeezer

If I get some time after the World Cup then I'll look into it.

The game was built for stock Amiga's running KS 1.3, it was then adapted to work with AGA. If you're desperate then maybe appeal to one of the other coders as I made the source code available also.

I literally have no idea about OS3+ etc, I don't even know how to install it.

That side of the Amiga doesn't hold much interest for me... anything released up to and including CD32 does though.

If i get time I will take a look, but I can't promise anything..sorry.

No problem, if you find the time would be great improving compatibility! Thank you for your great game!

nobody · 22 June 2018, 10:40

Thanks for this version. This is a proof the A500 could do lots of arcade perfect ports, at least pre-1987. Some more come to mind like bubble bobble, 1943, cabal, nemesis etc.

DamienD · 22 June 2018, 12:57

I wish someone would do Blood Bros. for the Amiga

dlfrsilver · 22 June 2018, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamienD

I wish someone would do Blood Bros. for the Amiga

same as well. Blood Bros is a cool game. I would love to see it on A1200. We have a good load of good games already on A500.

saimon69 · 23 June 2018, 08:32

At the end Blood Bros is a western implementation of Cabal (same company), should be feasible

dlfrsilver · 23 June 2018, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by saimon69

At the end Blood Bros is a western implementation of Cabal (same company), should be feasible

Mmmhhh.... I wonder if an ex-tad coder has the source code for this game

saimon69 · 27 June 2018, 10:11

I did wrote a post-mortem article regarding the making of Bomb Jack Beer Edition music and sound effects in my blog. Enjoy the read!

Amiga Soundtrack Post-Mortem: Bomb Jack Beer Edition [2018] - BinaryDoodles

Nightshft · 29 June 2018, 14:34

Thanks for the insight saimon. McGeezer and you did an awesome job creating BombjackBeerEdition and its soundtrack. This becomes even more visible when compared to the other ports. Betatesting it was a hell lot of fun.

DamienD · 29 June 2018, 14:43

You can say that again

I played Bomb Jack via MAME the other day.

...not only is mcgeezer's version identical graphics wise; I actually found it more fluid / fun to play than the arcade version

jotd · 30 June 2018, 17:41

I played McGeezer version and yes it looks very much like the arcade, graphically, musically and most of all gameplay wise.

Problem is: with the whdload version I get a systematic access fault to $FFFFFFFC probably original game doing this.

30 May 2018, 22:53	#261
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	Great work! This one works much better: no more issues with faaast AGA systems… Current known bugs or misfeatures: - keypresses "pass through" to the Workbench screen (for example if in game you press DEL, when you quit you'll see Workbench asking you to delete selected file) - no Pause (P) and Quit (ESC) keys? EDIT: still random issues with the game quitting automatically right after I select "Start Game": the game starts but after loading the stage and the "Start!" msg the game simply quits by itself. Last edited by hexaae; 30 May 2018 at 22:59.

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30 May 2018, 23:53	#263
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	Steril, can you please let me know which songs are the ones that misplay so that will give it a second look? Bass instrument is a bit moody and need to finetune it song by song

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hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	Mmmh, OS3.5 and 040...

21 June 2018, 22:30	#268
mcgeezer Registered User Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Sunderland, England Posts: 2,702	If I get some time after the World Cup then I'll look into it. The game was built for stock Amiga's running KS 1.3, it was then adapted to work with AGA. If you're desperate then maybe appeal to one of the other coders as I made the source code available also. I literally have no idea about OS3+ etc, I don't even know how to install it. That side of the Amiga doesn't hold much interest for me... anything released up to and including CD32 does though. If i get time I will take a look, but I can't promise anything..sorry.

21 June 2018, 22:58	#270
Aladin Registered User Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: France Posts: 853	@hexaae You can test Whdload Generic BombJack Beer Edition

22 June 2018, 10:40	#272
nobody Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: GR Age: 46 Posts: 1,416	Thanks for this version. This is a proof the A500 could do lots of arcade perfect ports, at least pre-1987. Some more come to mind like bubble bobble, 1943, cabal, nemesis etc.

22 June 2018, 12:57	#273
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	I wish someone would do Blood Bros. for the Amiga

23 June 2018, 08:32	#275
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	At the end Blood Bros is a western implementation of Cabal (same company), should be feasible

27 June 2018, 10:11	#277
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	I did wrote a post-mortem article regarding the making of Bomb Jack Beer Edition music and sound effects in my blog. Enjoy the read! Amiga Soundtrack Post-Mortem: Bomb Jack Beer Edition [2018] - BinaryDoodles

29 June 2018, 14:34	#278
Nightshft Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Austria Posts: 617	Thanks for the insight saimon. McGeezer and you did an awesome job creating BombjackBeerEdition and its soundtrack. This becomes even more visible when compared to the other ports. Betatesting it was a hell lot of fun.

29 June 2018, 14:43	#279
DamienD Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London / Sydney Age: 47 Posts: 20,420	You can say that again I played Bomb Jack via MAME the other day. ...not only is mcgeezer's version identical graphics wise; I actually found it more fluid / fun to play than the arcade version

30 June 2018, 17:41	#280
jotd This cat is no more Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: FRANCE Age: 52 Posts: 8,162	I played McGeezer version and yes it looks very much like the arcade, graphically, musically and most of all gameplay wise. Problem is: with the whdload version I get a systematic access fault to $FFFFFFFC probably original game doing this.

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