A3000 SCSI/1.4-based SuperKickstart 1.3 boot fails

rhester72 · 20 May 2008, 22:15

Using WinUAE 1.4.6 with A3000 QuickStart settings (including KS 1.4 with bonus) and a 50MB hard file. Steps followed:

- Created empty hard file
- Booted from 2.04 A3000 SuperKickstart floppy (NOTE: 2.0 SKS will not allow PrepHD to work!)
- Booted from 2.0 A3000 Install disk, ran PrepHD, FormatHD, and InstallHD
- Verified devs:kickstart exists in both WB_1.3: and WB_2.x:
- Clean rebooted, selected 2.x from hard drive on boot menu, all was well
- Clean rebooted, selected 1.3 from hard drive on boot menu - it loads the SKS image, restarts, flashes the screen rapidly, hard restarts, automatically loads SKS 2.x from hard drive and comes up in 2.0 (expected behavior is to load SKS 1.3 and boot from WB_1.3:, of course)

Attached boot and UAE log from a clean boot demonstrating the issue.

Rodney

rhester72 · 21 May 2008, 14:10

I have also tested this against the latest beta which behaved in an identical manner. I did not report it in the beta thread lest I be savaged because it isn't a problem with an explicit change in the beta (hi, Toni!

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Rodney

Toni Wilen · 21 May 2008, 22:06

KS 1.3 bonus remapping appears to be borken. (it is ugly hack after all) May or may not be fixed..

Jope · 30 December 2009, 23:37

Still broken, it seems as I was playing around with these just a moment ago. Even the kickstart hand graphic seems garbled. :-)

rhester72 · 31 December 2009, 14:13

Historically speaking, I *really* wish this could be made to work reliably...it's a huge part of Amiga history, at least in the US.

That having been said, I know that getting it to work involves very nasty MMU fakery, so I realize the difficulty of the effort. And while I imagine my input on the matter is of little relevance, I would like to once again humbly request this be looked at if possible.

Rodney

Jope · 31 December 2009, 14:31

Ah, I was a bit too quick to blame here, I talked about it on IRC with Toni today and it works when you disable JIT.

So.. You can indeed have a superkick a3000 config with WinUAE, works pretty well even though it isn't supposed to. ;-)

rhester72 · 31 December 2009, 14:41

Ah - I hadn't actually tried it myself. Ironically, just *before* hearing from you, I had planned to set up another special test-case HDF for this and try it, but decided not to after seeing your report. Oopsie.

Sorry, Toni.

Rodney

Toni Wilen · 31 December 2009, 15:15

JIT (or 68040/060 with caches enabled) and KS 1.x isn't very stable combination

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21 May 2008, 14:10	#2
rhester72 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New York / USA Posts: 360	I have also tested this against the latest beta which behaved in an identical manner. I did not report it in the beta thread lest I be savaged because it isn't a problem with an explicit change in the beta (hi, Toni! . Rodney

21 May 2008, 22:06	#3
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	KS 1.3 bonus remapping appears to be borken. (it is ugly hack after all) May or may not be fixed..

30 December 2009, 23:37	#4
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Still broken, it seems as I was playing around with these just a moment ago. Even the kickstart hand graphic seems garbled. :-)

31 December 2009, 14:13	#5
rhester72 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New York / USA Posts: 360	Historically speaking, I really wish this could be made to work reliably...it's a huge part of Amiga history, at least in the US. That having been said, I know that getting it to work involves very nasty MMU fakery, so I realize the difficulty of the effort. And while I imagine my input on the matter is of little relevance, I would like to once again humbly request this be looked at if possible. Rodney

31 December 2009, 14:31	#6
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,861	Ah, I was a bit too quick to blame here, I talked about it on IRC with Toni today and it works when you disable JIT. So.. You can indeed have a superkick a3000 config with WinUAE, works pretty well even though it isn't supposed to. ;-)

31 December 2009, 14:41	#7
rhester72 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New York / USA Posts: 360	Ah - I hadn't actually tried it myself. Ironically, just before hearing from you, I had planned to set up another special test-case HDF for this and try it, but decided not to after seeing your report. Oopsie. Sorry, Toni. Rodney

31 December 2009, 15:15	#8
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	JIT (or 68040/060 with caches enabled) and KS 1.x isn't very stable combination

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