Received Compact Flash - EMPTY! :(

lesta_smsc · 08 November 2018, 02:43

Hello folks,

I have purchased a Compact Flash with adaptor etc. Before opening my Amiga, I decided to check if it boots on WinUAE. Unfortunately, it did not.

It was advertised as "Amiga 600 4GB 2.1 Classic Whdload/ Games CF Hard Drive".

However, when I loaded up Workbench, it displayed 3 harddrives (I presume the partitions of the CF card) but they are all EMPTY!

Because I didn't understand the process of creating this parititioned drive and installing all the relevant applications, I bought one ready made yet it has nothing but partitions made lol.

To avoid the hassle of sending this back to the seller, I would appreciate any help on how to get this up and running? I can't use HDToolbox because it says drivers are missing?

I was hoping there would a way of writing some .HDF directly to the partitions to populate them but I'm not sure if this even exists or is possible (as it would be on PC).

Picture attached of the Workbench screen with the drives.

Thank you

Lesta_SMSC

FOL · 08 November 2018, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Hello folks,

I have purchased a Compact Flash with adaptor etc. Before opening my Amiga, I decided to check if it boots on WinUAE. Unfortunately, it did not.

It was advertised as "Amiga 600 4GB 2.1 Classic Whdload/ Games CF Hard Drive".

However, when I loaded up Workbench, it displayed 3 harddrives (I presume the partitions of the CF card) but they are all EMPTY!

Because I didn't understand the process of creating this parititioned drive and installing all the relevant applications, I bought one ready made yet it has nothing but partitions made lol.

To avoid the hassle of sending this back to the seller, I would appreciate any help on how to get this up and running? I can't use HDToolbox because it says drivers are missing?

I was hoping there would a way of writing some .HDF directly to the partitions to populate them but I'm not sure if this even exists or is possible (as it would be on PC).

Picture attached of the Workbench screen with the drives.

Thank you

Lesta_SMSC

Change HDToolboxes tooltypes, as your using WinUAE, it needs to be changed. Unless you use scsi instead of uaehf.

It would be quicker to mount HDF and just do a straight copy from HDF to CF. Its always a good idea to addbuffers. If you have enough ram, add 1000 to each partition you are using. Makes it faster, than standard buffers.

-Acid- · 08 November 2018, 12:44

It seems like you only have 1mb of ram in your A600 as well, Whdload is not going to do much with so little memory available.

nexus · 08 November 2018, 18:15

hassle? its a little card and you paid for it with extra stuff on it why wouldnt you return it?

supaduper · 08 November 2018, 18:23

As Acid says you only have 1mb of ram so really you need to upgrade at least with another 1mb and then you can use the 68k version of CWB as any other version of CWB will not be really viable on an unexpanded A600

lesta_smsc · 08 November 2018, 19:07

I was going to use on my A1200. Assumed it would have been compatible?

supaduper · 08 November 2018, 19:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

I was going to use on my A1200. Assumed it would have been compatible?

If it is a standard A1200 then it has only 2mb so you will need the lite version or the 68k should still run on the A1200

lesta_smsc · 08 November 2018, 19:16

Yes... I was under impression CWB is free? I may have to see if there is a preconfigured HDF that I can write to CF.

FOL- the HDF written back to CF how is this done? I couldn't see option in WinUAE?

FOL · 08 November 2018, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Yes... I was under impression CWB is free? I may have to see if there is a preconfigured HDF that I can write to CF.

FOL- the HDF written back to CF how is this done? I couldn't see option in WinUAE?

You mount both in HDD panel and do it manually.

lesta_smsc · 08 November 2018, 19:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

You mount both in HDD panel and do it manually.

Excuse my pure ignorance in such matters. If I mount both then do I drag and drop into the other or somehow flash the HDF to CF?

ubermick · 08 November 2018, 20:00

ClassicWB is free to download, but it looks for a set of properly licensed Workbench disks in order for it to be installed on the card in the first place. Now, Workbench in ADF format can be found online if you search hard enough - not that I'm condoning that - but the person who sold this card with it preinstalled is technically selling stolen goods unless they also included the WB license with your package.

(Not that any of us in the Amiga world used pirated disks, ahahaha)

lesta_smsc · 08 November 2018, 20:30

I have various original Workbench disks in my possession so that side of things isn't an issue lol.

FOL · 09 November 2018, 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Excuse my pure ignorance in such matters. If I mount both then do I drag and drop into the other or somehow flash the HDF to CF?

I normally CLI it. However others love using DOPUS (I HATE DOPUS).
Just do a simple, copy yoursourcedrive: to yourdestdrive: CLONE and press return.

Just make sure you do buffers, else it can take over a day, if your transfering 4GB+.

lesta_smsc · 09 November 2018, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOL

I normally CLI it. However others love using DOPUS (I HATE DOPUS).
Just do a simple, copy yoursourcedrive: to yourdestdrive: CLONE and press return.

Just make sure you do buffers, else it can take over a day, if your transfering 4GB+.

I can use WinUAE so will it not be fast on that if I set speed to max for CPU etc?

FOL · 09 November 2018, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

I can use WinUAE so will it not be fast on that if I set speed to max for CPU etc?

Even on WinUAE, like real hardware it will take alot longer without buffers.

lesta_smsc · 09 November 2018, 14:32

Ok thank you FOL.

Supaduper is kindly sending me a CF to hopefully get me going! I'll update once I have it

lesta_smsc · 11 November 2018, 17:08

Just to update: Thanks to supaduper it's working! What a nice selection apps and I love they layout! However, I am having issues running games due to "No ShadowMem" or "No ExpMem" errors lol. I suspect the 2MB Chip RAM is not enough. Can I 'fake' fast RAM if that is what is lacking?

supaduper · 11 November 2018, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesta_smsc

Just to update: Thanks to supaduper it's working! What a nice selection apps and I love they layout! However, I am having issues running games due to "No ShadowMem" or "No ExpMem" errors lol. I suspect the 2MB Chip RAM is not enough. Can I 'fake' fast RAM if that is what is lacking?

Yep its purely RAM, some games need that little bit more ram to run ,so will be borderline with 2mb still and a fair few of the games are for ECS A600 chipset so wont run anyway so you will get those errors

No you cant fake fast ram best to buy a ram upgrade its worth it on a A1200

lesta_smsc · 11 November 2018, 19:51

SRAM is ridiculously expensive! What are my options?

supaduper · 11 November 2018, 20:41

You can look on ebay for 8mb expansion for about £70 or if you are flush go for an 030 accelerator for £170 or more

08 November 2018, 02:43	#1
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	Received Compact Flash - EMPTY! :( Hello folks, I have purchased a Compact Flash with adaptor etc. Before opening my Amiga, I decided to check if it boots on WinUAE. Unfortunately, it did not. It was advertised as "Amiga 600 4GB 2.1 Classic Whdload/ Games CF Hard Drive". However, when I loaded up Workbench, it displayed 3 harddrives (I presume the partitions of the CF card) but they are all EMPTY! Because I didn't understand the process of creating this parititioned drive and installing all the relevant applications, I bought one ready made yet it has nothing but partitions made lol. To avoid the hassle of sending this back to the seller, I would appreciate any help on how to get this up and running? I can't use HDToolbox because it says drivers are missing? I was hoping there would a way of writing some .HDF directly to the partitions to populate them but I'm not sure if this even exists or is possible (as it would be on PC). Picture attached of the Workbench screen with the drives. Thank you Lesta_SMSC Attached Thumbnails

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Compact Flash A1200 Help!	Hiddenevil	support.Hardware	2	19 September 2018 11:21
Compact Flash Questions	Dreedo	New to Emulation or Amiga scene	26	06 March 2010 09:34
compact flash, but where on the pc?	lost_lemming	support.Hardware	27	16 September 2009 19:39
Compact flash	JACK98	support.Hardware	22	10 December 2008 23:09
Compact flash innards	Magno Boots	support.Hardware	1	28 August 2007 02:37

08 November 2018, 12:44	#3
-Acid- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shields Posts: 812	It seems like you only have 1mb of ram in your A600 as well, Whdload is not going to do much with so little memory available.

08 November 2018, 18:15	#4
nexus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: USA Posts: 728	hassle? its a little card and you paid for it with extra stuff on it why wouldnt you return it?

08 November 2018, 18:23	#5
supaduper Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Krypton Posts: 1,210	As Acid says you only have 1mb of ram so really you need to upgrade at least with another 1mb and then you can use the 68k version of CWB as any other version of CWB will not be really viable on an unexpanded A600

08 November 2018, 19:07	#6
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	I was going to use on my A1200. Assumed it would have been compatible?

08 November 2018, 19:16	#8
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	Yes... I was under impression CWB is free? I may have to see if there is a preconfigured HDF that I can write to CF. FOL- the HDF written back to CF how is this done? I couldn't see option in WinUAE?

08 November 2018, 20:00	#11
ubermick Registered User Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: San Francisco-ish, via Ireland Posts: 114	ClassicWB is free to download, but it looks for a set of properly licensed Workbench disks in order for it to be installed on the card in the first place. Now, Workbench in ADF format can be found online if you search hard enough - not that I'm condoning that - but the person who sold this card with it preinstalled is technically selling stolen goods unless they also included the WB license with your package. (Not that any of us in the Amiga world used pirated disks, ahahaha)

08 November 2018, 20:30	#12
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	I have various original Workbench disks in my possession so that side of things isn't an issue lol.

09 November 2018, 14:32	#16
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	Ok thank you FOL. Supaduper is kindly sending me a CF to hopefully get me going! I'll update once I have it

11 November 2018, 17:08	#17
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	Just to update: Thanks to supaduper it's working! What a nice selection apps and I love they layout! However, I am having issues running games due to "No ShadowMem" or "No ExpMem" errors lol. I suspect the 2MB Chip RAM is not enough. Can I 'fake' fast RAM if that is what is lacking?

11 November 2018, 19:51	#19
lesta_smsc Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 3,173	SRAM is ridiculously expensive! What are my options?

11 November 2018, 20:41	#20
supaduper Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Krypton Posts: 1,210	You can look on ebay for 8mb expansion for about £70 or if you are flush go for an 030 accelerator for £170 or more

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)