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Old 26 April 2022, 17:28   #1
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PreTracker 1.5 released

Abyss released PreTracker 1.5
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=91409

This is a crossdev 'chipmusic' tracker (running on Windows) to create music for Amiga demos, intros and games. All instruments are precalced on song init, hence the name 'PreTracker'.
Used by Abyss in 'Coda', 'Preschool', 'Tinyus', 'Tiny Bobble', 'Wrong Way Driver' and 'Tiny Galaga'.

New in Version 1.5
-Gamedev support (up to 31 Sub Songs, up to 31 Sound Fx)
- Loop crossfade
- Easier loop setup (press the gear icon)
- New ASM / C replayer with support for subsongs/sfx, global volume.
- Many editor bugfixes
- New demo songs included
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Old 26 April 2022, 21:12   #2
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Thank you very much Pink, I look forward to trying it out as soon as possible.
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Old 27 April 2022, 12:02   #3
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Thanks for releasing this update Pink, might give me the push to finish something :P
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Old 27 April 2022, 16:38   #4
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Thank you for releasing this Pink!
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Old 02 May 2022, 22:27   #5
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thank you !
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Old 03 May 2022, 05:53   #6
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can this be used in Blitz now?
thanks Pink!
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Old 20 February 2023, 12:07   #7
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Is there a Delitracker Player for this PreTracker format?
It would be handy not only inside the Amiga, but also for Windows players like XMPlay supporting 3rd party Amiga Delitracker Players (after you install XMP delix add-on, "XMPlay\Plugins\xmp-delix.dat" is a PKZip archive where you can add inside other Amiga 68K deliplayers)...
Please, code an Amiga 68k deliplayer for this format

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Old 20 February 2023, 16:36   #8
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Really thrilled by PreTracker !

Now some dumb user questions ;-)
Would an editor for classic Amiga be technically possible or is there some heavy processing happening ?

Slightly related and completely clueless question : could Hoffman's work on the Ceconnoid mixing routines be transferred to some extent ? I wonder if that would open the door to high quality replay routines for more channels ?

Although, if I understood properly, he must have developed those to mix SFX with the music.
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Old 21 February 2023, 07:10   #9
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Really thrilled by PreTracker !

Now some dumb user questions ;-)
Would an editor for classic Amiga be technically possible or is there some heavy processing happening ?.

Would be possible but instrument editing, which is instant on Pc, could take many seconds, especially if you mix instruments dependingly on each other.

Also the prePlay would slow down things. In difference to any Amiga tracker I know, Pretracker pre-plays the complete song up to the point you want to start (while composing). So you hear lingering notes from position 115 when you start playing at pattern 116 but this means to pre play several minutes.. to slow on A500 tomfeel instant..

Another hard to port feature would be stream export. This uses a brute force compression scheme to compress 500kb of stream data to 10kb, and would take hours on A500. It already takes a few seconds on PC..
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@pink^abyss
Plans for a deliplayer plugin for Delitracker II (so that I can use it also with Windows XMPlay player + DELIX addon)?
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I join the request from hexaae that someone please make a pretracker delitplayer engine. it would be wonderful. (or eagleplayer, or hippoplayer, we dont mind)
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I join the request from hexaae that someone please make a pretracker delitplayer engine. it would be wonderful. (or eagleplayer, or hippoplayer, we dont mind)
Just to clarify, HippoPlayer added PreTracker v1.5 support (a year ago).
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Old 15 May 2023, 10:15   #13
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We need a Delitracker II (deliplayer) plugin, this way it can be played with XMplay (using Delix, its .dat file is just a ZIP where you can add deliplayers or eagleplayers) under Windows too...


(XMPlay with Delix plugin playing Amiga mods in any format supported by Delitracker II or EaglePlayer)

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Old 15 May 2023, 16:05   #14
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Just to clarify, HippoPlayer added PreTracker v1.5 support (a year ago).
I didn't know that. Thx koobo!
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Old 05 June 2023, 11:36   #15
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PreTracker 1.5 released

Thanks for the great work!

I have had this to try for a while actually and feeling inspired to have a [ED: proper] go… shoutout to @koobo for the heads up!
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Old 14 December 2023, 11:08   #16
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Still no deliplayer plugin?
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Old 14 December 2023, 21:04   #17
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Just to clarify, HippoPlayer added PreTracker v1.5 support (a year ago).

Thanks for that Koobo
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Old 15 December 2023, 20:58   #18
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@hexaae latest UADE (https://zakalwe.fi/uade/) release includes PreTracker player, originally from https://github.com/arnaud-neny/rePlayer

I haven't tested it with DeliTracker, Eagleplayer nor Delix though, but in theory it should work.
Also one annoyance is that the PreTracker replay does not support songend detection. However my audio loop detection routine works quite nicely with PreTracker mods as well for precalculated songlengths
https://github.com/mvtiaine/audaciou...songdb/sources
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Old 18 December 2023, 16:08   #19
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I quickly hacked together a deliplayer which wraps Pink's v1.5 replayer and uploaded it to aminet just a moment ago. Works on my (emulated) machine™.
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And works very well :-)
Thank you and have a great Xmas season
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