HTML problem

[Dastardly]

I have an image that I want to use as a background for the main page of my site. The problem is that I cant figure out how to stop the image from tiling when I only want it to display once in the center of the screen.

Does anyone know how this is possible. Im not being lazy, I have been trying to figure it out for hours now!

Thanks in advance

[Mr Creosote]

Don't use CSS - that will only make the site incompatible with Amiga browsers

[Dastardly]

@Kodoichi
" bgproperties="fixed">
Thanks but..
Id already tried that and it doesnt stop the image tiling. It stops the image moving when scrolling the screen down but theres still more than one image.

Any other ideas?

If I use CSS, what will be displayed in Amiga browsers? will the image just not be displayed at all, or will it tile?

[Paul]

This any good?
http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex3/fixback.htm

[Dastardly]

@Paul
Thats EXACTLY what I was after! Cheers
What you think of the background?
The Sanctum
I think it makes the page look much more interesting and less empty.

[BippyM]

The site looks great,

The back logo is good... but (You knew it was coming ) anyway it's a little blurred, have you not got a good CRISP image?

[Paul]

It's looks good, but it does make the text harder to read.

Maybe have all text in bold will help on these pages?

[Dastardly]

@bippym
Thanks. Yes I have got a perfectly crisp version of the background image but I deliberately blurred it myself so that the foreground text would be clear above it. I also like it blurred personally.

@Paul
I agree that the text is a little harder to read although its not too bad. Im thinkin of ideas to improve it.

[BippyM]

Originally posted by Dastardly
@bippym
Thanks. Yes I have got a perfectly crisp version of the background image but I deliberately blurred it myself so that the foreground text would be clear above it. I also like it blurred personally.

Can't argue with that then

[Dastardly]

So how will it display to incompatible browsers now? If its just a black background as before, I can live with that.

[Mr Creosote]

Sorry for the late reply. I checked it with two 'incompatible browsers' (hate that word - IMHO, it's the sites which are incompatible) now: Opera 6 and iBrowse. Both display no background at all, so in Opera, it is all white which makes the text hardly readable. In iBrowse, it's the default grey. To solve this, just add bgcolor="#000000" into the body tag, it will not affect the so-called 'compatible' browsers.

In addition, the text is all black in iBrowse. That is because you chose to give the text colour via CSS. What for? It has no advantages, but makes it incompatible (again)! Why not just use a normal font color tag instead? Also for the link colour, there is no need for CSS every time. You can simply put link="#FFCC00" in the body tag, it has the same effect saves you a lot of work.

[Mr Creosote]

Originally posted by Kodoichi
Ouch. Better get a standards-compatible browser. Nobody will use the font tag in the future anymore.
CSS and the W3C makes it all more compatible than MS and NS ever could.

Sorry, but you quoted out of the context. I specifically went there with a so-called incompatble browser to test it! That browser is 'standards compatible' by the way, just not to the standard you're praising, but an older one.

And if you really think everybody will change their sites and no new browsers will support old tags anymore suddenly, you should check out the history of html a bit - compare it to the center tag for example which was kicked out of the official html standard years ago, still all browsers support it and even new sites still use it.

Let's face it: classic html will work for everybody for the years to come. All new standards will not.

Puzzle: you're right, CSS can save the webmaster a lot of time, but only if used right. At the moment, Dastardly uses CSS commands in the same way as font tags, so it is even fussier than pure html.

Dastardly: if you want to stick with the CSS, all you should do is add
bgcolor="#000000" text="#FFFFFF" link="#FFCC00" alink="#FFCC00" vlink="#FFCC00"
to your body tag and it will work on every non-CSS browser. I can guarantee you this will not affect any newer browsers. Even if there will be a browser which doesn't understand these commands anymore (in ten years or so), it will simply ignore it, so there would be no harm.