Contra Amiga

23 March 2008, 19:36

I saw a reference to this in a closed thread and opened this one to clear up the question.

Konami developed a number of its early computer games for the Amiga, and the screens from several of these (Contra, Rush'n Attack and possibly Ajax come to mind) graced the boxes of other versions. This has led many to assume that the games were released for the Amiga.

They weren't.

I talked to Konami about this back in the mid '90s when doing a story about unreleased Amiga games for Compute!, but don't recall getting a solid answer. There are all kinds of possibilities. My best guess is that the Amiga was simply the development system--not a target system. (Konami wasn't all that high on the Amiga as a games machine in the mid-to-late '80s.)

Hope that's helpful!

Peter

Zetr0 · 23 March 2008, 19:46

@Peter Olafson

now thats interesting, thanks for the info Peter

, i figured for a lot of late 80's 8/16bit games the Amiga was a development platform for Sega MD / NES and SNES etc.

I would like to know if any Playstation games were developed in anyway on the Amiga ? hmmmm

Oh BTW.... Welcome to the EAB

Retro-Nerd · 23 March 2008, 19:52

I got some e-mails from James Anderson (Konami USA/Product Planning Manager) last month. He was a big Amiga fan too, but can't remember anything about the plans for Contra. Promised me to asked around the company, but it seems he found no infos.

Shoonay · 23 March 2008, 19:56

Thanks Peter, finally someone with a consious mind, and an actual fact of a proof

Hello & welcome to EAB!

23 March 2008, 20:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetr0

@Peter Olafson

now thats interesting, thanks for the info Peter

, i figured for a lot of late 80's 8/16bit games the Amiga was a development platform for Sega MD / NES and SNES etc.

I would like to know if any Playstation games were developed in anyway on the Amiga ? hmmmm

Oh BTW.... Welcome to the EAB

Thanks for the nice welcome!

On the Amiga as a Playstation dev system: To the best of my knowledge, no.

Peter

musashi5150 · 23 March 2008, 21:00

The Sony dev tools run on PCs... but you never know if someone tinkered with DPaint somewhere at the back

redblade · 24 March 2008, 03:28

I'm guessing the Amiga would of only been used as a DEV machine for the Sega Genesis in the western states and not in Japan/Asia?

turrican3 · 29 November 2008, 19:48

i found that : http://cgi.befr.ebay.be/CONTRA-Game-...3A1|240%3A1318

screenshots from amiga !!!!

Retro-Nerd · 29 November 2008, 19:51

This means nothing.

Hungry Horace · 29 November 2008, 19:53

people are insane and/or ****ing manipulative and greedy.

IBM Amiga/Tandy System indeed.

$300 indeed.

Retro-Nerd · 29 November 2008, 20:01

He knows a lot about old computer games.

http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.js...=1213127787683

Hungry Horace · 29 November 2008, 20:22

why has no one posted to inform him of his "accidental" mistake?

[Cody - removed reference to you-know-who]

Hungry Horace · 30 November 2008, 17:47

in response to a deleted post (not at my request) which accused me of trolling....

I was serious, I hope it is purchased to prove everyone else wrong.

Since evidence beforehand for the existance of Amiga Contra relied highly on an e-bay listing and some screenshots stating 'amiga version' , this sale surely has all the proof to show its existance does it not?

Retro-Nerd · 30 November 2008, 17:54

Quote:

My best guess is that the Amiga was simply the development system--not a target system. (Konami wasn't all that high on the Amiga as a games machine in the mid-to-late '80s.)

It's my guess too. The screenshots on the IBM back cover aren't a proof of an existing (released!!!!) Amiga version. And who would pay such a ridiculous amount, only to make sure?

Hungry Horace · 30 November 2008, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

It's my guess too. The screenshots on the IBM back cover aren't a proof of an existing (released!!!!) Amiga version. And who would pay such a ridiculous amount, only to make sure?

hopefully someone will be 'clever' enough to pay it.... you know, just to be sure, right?

Obviously they'll have to ignore the fact the box clearly states 'IBM TANDY 1000' on the front.

I very much doubt -even- any developers would have kept any Amiga version myself. But $300 isnt too much to prove me wrong is it?

Retro-Nerd · 30 November 2008, 18:58

Well, the IBM version needed some Deluxe Paint "fake shots". I guess this wasn't an uncommon method to sell at least SOME copies. Check the graphics:

http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/contra/screenshots

s2325 · 30 November 2008, 19:02

It's almost monochrome...

TCD · 30 November 2008, 19:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

It's almost monochrome...

The beauty of CGA graphics

Just funny that it stands for Color Graphics Adapter

dlfrsilver · 30 November 2008, 23:16

mmmhh well if we look at the DOS screens from mobygames and the ones at the back of the box, it COULD be amiga screens... but i'm not that sure that anyone wants to pay
such a fee for a rubbish game

Hungry Horace · 30 November 2008, 23:23

when my Amiga copy of Bloodwych says "Atari ST Screenshots" on the back, and features all of the heros in the wrong colours, wrong positions and with mis-named spells, i am still expecting to find the Amiga version i know and love inside the box.

I dont slap it on e-bay for $300 and call it "the rare Commodore Atari version".

23 March 2008, 19:36	#1
Peter Olafson Posts: n/a	Contra Amiga I saw a reference to this in a closed thread and opened this one to clear up the question. Konami developed a number of its early computer games for the Amiga, and the screens from several of these (Contra, Rush'n Attack and possibly Ajax come to mind) graced the boxes of other versions. This has led many to assume that the games were released for the Amiga. They weren't. I talked to Konami about this back in the mid '90s when doing a story about unreleased Amiga games for Compute!, but don't recall getting a solid answer. There are all kinds of possibilities. My best guess is that the Amiga was simply the development system--not a target system. (Konami wasn't all that high on the Amiga as a games machine in the mid-to-late '80s.) Hope that's helpful! Peter

29 November 2008, 20:22	#12
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	why has no one posted to inform him of his "accidental" mistake? [Cody - removed reference to you-know-who] Last edited by CodyJarrett; 30 November 2008 at 17:44.

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23 March 2008, 19:46	#2
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@Peter Olafson now thats interesting, thanks for the info Peter , i figured for a lot of late 80's 8/16bit games the Amiga was a development platform for Sega MD / NES and SNES etc. I would like to know if any Playstation games were developed in anyway on the Amiga ? hmmmm Oh BTW.... Welcome to the EAB

23 March 2008, 19:52	#3
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	I got some e-mails from James Anderson (Konami USA/Product Planning Manager) last month. He was a big Amiga fan too, but can't remember anything about the plans for Contra. Promised me to asked around the company, but it seems he found no infos.

23 March 2008, 19:56	#4
Shoonay Global Caturator Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Porando Age: 43 Posts: 6,105	Thanks Peter, finally someone with a consious mind, and an actual fact of a proof Hello & welcome to EAB!

23 March 2008, 21:00	#6
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	The Sony dev tools run on PCs... but you never know if someone tinkered with DPaint somewhere at the back

24 March 2008, 03:28	#7
redblade Zone Friend Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Middle Earth Age: 40 Posts: 2,127	I'm guessing the Amiga would of only been used as a DEV machine for the Sega Genesis in the western states and not in Japan/Asia?

29 November 2008, 19:48	#8
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	i found that : http://cgi.befr.ebay.be/CONTRA-Game-...3A1\|240%3A1318 screenshots from amiga !!!!

29 November 2008, 19:51	#9
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	This means nothing.

29 November 2008, 19:53	#10
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	people are insane and/or ****ing manipulative and greedy. IBM Amiga/Tandy System indeed. $300 indeed.

29 November 2008, 20:01	#11
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	He knows a lot about old computer games. http://forums.ebay.com/db1/thread.js...=1213127787683

30 November 2008, 17:47	#13
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	in response to a deleted post (not at my request) which accused me of trolling.... I was serious, I hope it is purchased to prove everyone else wrong. Since evidence beforehand for the existance of Amiga Contra relied highly on an e-bay listing and some screenshots stating 'amiga version' , this sale surely has all the proof to show its existance does it not?

30 November 2008, 18:58	#16
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,436	Well, the IBM version needed some Deluxe Paint "fake shots". I guess this wasn't an uncommon method to sell at least SOME copies. Check the graphics: http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/contra/screenshots

30 November 2008, 19:02	#17
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	It's almost monochrome...

30 November 2008, 23:16	#19
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	mmmhh well if we look at the DOS screens from mobygames and the ones at the back of the box, it COULD be amiga screens... but i'm not that sure that anyone wants to pay such a fee for a rubbish game

30 November 2008, 23:23	#20
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	when my Amiga copy of Bloodwych says "Atari ST Screenshots" on the back, and features all of the heros in the wrong colours, wrong positions and with mis-named spells, i am still expecting to find the Amiga version i know and love inside the box. I dont slap it on e-bay for $300 and call it "the rare Commodore Atari version".

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