Lionheart gfx glitches

hexaae · 05 March 2009, 16:48

I still can't play Lionheart WHD without gfx glitches in the 1st level.
Parallax background (sky or mountains) somtimes flickers and the water leaves gfx trials on right screen border...
I tried to change all settings but I can't find a decent solution to play it with smooth parallax scrolling without glitches. Everything else (I have a lot of WHD games) works fine...
Is it a complex chipset/cpu-timing issue or there's some secret trick?

It's the same using old WUAE 1.4- or latest 1.6b14.

I love Lionheart

TCD · 05 March 2009, 17:02

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Todo:
- blitter errors to fix
- 2-button joystick control to fix
- gfx glitch at game start

From the readme of the slave. Seems like there is no way to make it work regardless of the config in WinUAE

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2009, 17:34

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Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

From the readme of the slave. Seems like there is no way to make it work regardless of the config in WinUAE

This is only a minor problem, you notice it only in the first second of level 1 on a real Amiga. But I know the graphic glitches that hexaae decribes. Don't use JIT and level 1 works nearly glitch-free in WinUAE.

TCD · 05 March 2009, 17:37

Tried it without JIT here and there is quite a bit of graphic glitches left

The sky 'flickers' every 1-2 seconds.

Ironclaw · 05 March 2009, 17:37

WTF, more people using JIT and shit?.... arghh... when will they learn...... so many posts about errors in games because of it...

viddi · 05 March 2009, 17:38

Check out the Zone!

I uploaded two WHDload versions. Both without gfx glitches on my A1200 and A4000.

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2009, 17:40

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Originally Posted by Ironclaw

WTF, more people using JIT and shit?.... arghh... when will they learn...... so many posts about errors in games because of it...

And you should stop posting in WinUAE+WHDLoad threads.

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Tried it without JIT here and there is quite a bit of graphic glitches left The sky 'flickers' every 1-2 seconds.

Only a flickering? Or white flashes, garbled graphics too? The minor flickering in the sky is normal, it's permanently there on my TV set. Of course you can see it in WinUAE too.

killergorilla · 05 March 2009, 18:12

I thought you could get rid of the flickering by pressing 'i' on a normal TV to turn on/off interlaced backgrounds?

alexh · 05 March 2009, 18:20

Is it any better if you use the Thalion HD installer which is present on the original disks (available on my website)?

That way you could rule out (or in) WHDload as the culprit?

Never quite understood why they did a WHDload installer for this game as the Thalion one works fine on my A4000/040

TCD · 05 March 2009, 18:21

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Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Only a flickering? Or white flashes, garbled graphics too? The minor flickering in the sky is normal, it's permanently there on my TV set. Of course you can see it in WinUAE too.

Well, there is a flicker with garbled graphics for one or two frames. Nothing too bad, but it doesn't happen in the disk version.

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2009, 18:22

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Originally Posted by killergorilla

I thought you could get rid of the flickering by pressing 'i' on a normal TV to turn on/off interlaced backgrounds?

Oops, never known this. Just checked the manual carefully for the first time. Works fine here. But then you get worser color shifts.

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Well, there is a flicker with garbled graphics for one or two frames. Nothing too bad, but it doesn't happen in the disk version.

Works without glitches here.

TCD · 05 March 2009, 18:34

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Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

Works without glitches here.

Interesting. Which quickstart do you use? A1200 4MB Fastram?

Retro-Nerd · 05 March 2009, 18:38

Nope, Gamebase Amiga settings from Belg. Try it with adjustable cpu/chip setting, 3-4 steps from the left.

TCD · 05 March 2009, 18:43

Indeed much better

With this setting and the interlace mode turned off no more glitches

Retroplay · 05 March 2009, 18:44

I use a 68000/Cycle exact config and there's no glitches whatsoever.
That goes for WinUAE (PC) and WinUAEX (XBOX).
If I use 68020 or above I get glitches in the background/sky.

TCD · 05 March 2009, 18:47

Do you use the WHDLoad version Retroplay? Interesting to use it with a 68000 config

How much ram have you configured?

Retroplay · 05 March 2009, 19:32

Yes, WHDLoad.
Kick 3.1 (A500, A600, A2000) and 2 MB Chip/8MB Fast.

TCD · 05 March 2009, 19:39

Should make such a setup myself for testing purposes

Retroplay · 05 March 2009, 20:03

I always use this setting for WHD games in WinUAEX for OCS/ECS games if the slave support quitkey with a 68000.

Eliotg · 05 March 2009, 20:40

I have a cd32 version of lionheart trained ..works perfect on winuae without glitches or problems..I will zone it if anyone is interested

05 March 2009, 18:44	#15
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,085	I use a 68000/Cycle exact config and there's no glitches whatsoever. That goes for WinUAE (PC) and WinUAEX (XBOX). If I use 68020 or above I get glitches in the background/sky. Last edited by Retroplay; 05 March 2009 at 19:34. Reason: fixed a typo

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05 March 2009, 16:48	#1
hexaae Bug hunter Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 2,161	I still can't play Lionheart WHD without gfx glitches in the 1st level. Parallax background (sky or mountains) somtimes flickers and the water leaves gfx trials on right screen border... I tried to change all settings but I can't find a decent solution to play it with smooth parallax scrolling without glitches. Everything else (I have a lot of WHD games) works fine... Is it a complex chipset/cpu-timing issue or there's some secret trick? It's the same using old WUAE 1.4- or latest 1.6b14. I love Lionheart

05 March 2009, 17:37	#4
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,608	Tried it without JIT here and there is quite a bit of graphic glitches left The sky 'flickers' every 1-2 seconds.

05 March 2009, 17:37	#5
Ironclaw Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: ... Age: 45 Posts: 3,313	WTF, more people using JIT and shit?.... arghh... when will they learn...... so many posts about errors in games because of it...

05 March 2009, 17:38	#6
viddi Moderator Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 4,007	Check out the Zone! I uploaded two WHDload versions. Both without gfx glitches on my A1200 and A4000.

05 March 2009, 18:12	#8
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	I thought you could get rid of the flickering by pressing 'i' on a normal TV to turn on/off interlaced backgrounds?

05 March 2009, 18:20	#9
alexh Thalion Webshrine Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Oxford Posts: 14,354	Is it any better if you use the Thalion HD installer which is present on the original disks (available on my website)? That way you could rule out (or in) WHDload as the culprit? Never quite understood why they did a WHDload installer for this game as the Thalion one works fine on my A4000/040

05 March 2009, 18:38	#13
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	Nope, Gamebase Amiga settings from Belg. Try it with adjustable cpu/chip setting, 3-4 steps from the left.

05 March 2009, 18:43	#14
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,608	Indeed much better With this setting and the interlace mode turned off no more glitches

05 March 2009, 18:47	#16
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,608	Do you use the WHDLoad version Retroplay? Interesting to use it with a 68000 config How much ram have you configured?

05 March 2009, 19:32	#17
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,085	Yes, WHDLoad. Kick 3.1 (A500, A600, A2000) and 2 MB Chip/8MB Fast.

05 March 2009, 19:39	#18
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,608	Should make such a setup myself for testing purposes

05 March 2009, 20:03	#19
Retroplay Lemon Curry ? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Denmark Age: 49 Posts: 4,085	I always use this setting for WHD games in WinUAEX for OCS/ECS games if the slave support quitkey with a 68000.

05 March 2009, 20:40	#20
Eliotg Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Motherearth Posts: 41	I have a cd32 version of lionheart trained ..works perfect on winuae without glitches or problems..I will zone it if anyone is interested

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