25 August 2008, 12:20 | #1 |
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Where are we in the Amiga popularity state?
Obviously demand for Amiga's rises and falls as more or less people want to get (back) into/out-of the retro Amiga scene. I see A600's going for £20-£40 on ebay depending on condition and accessories. A1200's ~£40 for a bog standard untested model etc...
These seem very cheap to me with some of the parts costing a large percentage of what you would pay for a complete unit - for example a A500/A600/A1200 PSU can fetch £10 inc P&P. Mice around a fiver, joysticks ~£10. So are we seeing a downward trend in value or upward? Have the Amiga forums seen more or less activity (new member join rates)? Has minimig sparked more interest in the 68k Amiga's? Will Natami do the same? I know it is a bit heavy for a Monday morning but as a recent returner to the scene i'm interested to see if I am bucking the trend or riding the wave! |
25 August 2008, 12:57 | #2 |
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I think its quite stable, maybe has increased since i bought my a1200 in 04, which i paid 80 for with an 030/42 with (admittedly fixed to board) 4meg ram and a 4 gig hard disc. Now accelerators go for about that.
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25 August 2008, 12:59 | #3 |
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for a machine that has been dead for 14 years , i'd go with 'massively overpriced' .... like most retro hardware.
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25 August 2008, 13:52 | #4 |
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Massively overpriced.
I tried to explain the UK Amiga price bio-rhythms before. It all surrounds the age and lifestyles of the Amiga users. The first dip in Amiga prices (the lowest) was between 1997-9. The market was flooded by Amiga's as everyone wanted to sell their hardware before it lost all of it's value (to buy a Voodoo accelerated PC to play GLQuake!). At the low point you could pick up A1200 accelerators for next to nothing! Between 2000-1 the market bounded back, nostalgia for retro had kicked in driven by the uptake of broadband and the internet. Forums such as this gave the former Amiga users nostalgic pangs. They had to reclaim their hardware and as such prices went up and up and up! Then we come to the dread crash of 2002-2003 Brought on because around this time most Amiga users got married!! The "crap" collected in a bachelors lifetime had to go! The deluge of Amiga gear on Ebay pushed prices down prices. By 2005 saw prices steadily coming back. The Amiga users had their first children a year or two earlier and had an excuse to buy something "for the baby". Some bought lego, Scalextrics others Amiga computers so their kids could play the same games they did. The users who were too fat and ugly to get married now had high paid jobs in the IT industry which enabled them to get the dream Amiga they always wanted. At the moment we are at the 2nd child point. This is where all the crap that was stored in the 3rd bedroom now has to go in the attic or the bin (aka Ebay). This is driving down prices as the market is saturated. Give it another two years and the Amiga community will be able to afford that 4 bed with study and the nostalgic call of the Amiga will once again push up prices. Last edited by alexh; 25 August 2008 at 13:59. |
25 August 2008, 13:54 | #5 |
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Prices go up as availability drops but I can't help but wonder if there is a saturation point at which everyone who is still interested in the Amiga pretty much has the hardware they want. Also to be considered is the depressing fact that we're aging and as we die off there won't be new Amiga users to take our place.
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25 August 2008, 13:56 | #6 |
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So now is a good time to buy for any Amiga enthusiast. Plus I suppose anyone needing cash in this time of poor economic stability will sell stuff like old Amiga's to generate a bit of spending money.
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25 August 2008, 14:00 | #8 |
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25 August 2008, 14:01 | #9 |
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25 August 2008, 14:05 | #11 |
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I have several spares already but if I had a bigger house and more money there would be more
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25 August 2008, 14:12 | #12 |
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You have to wonder if kids create anything these days? We spent half our time playing games. And the other half trying to out do the other kids by writing demos.
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25 August 2008, 14:17 | #13 |
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Nope, i was 20 in 1994
1st computer for home was the C64 for me, and the first i used was an Apple IIe ... sigh, i don't want to get any older, i still can't believe that in just over 5 years i will be 40 years old. There really is no justice. |
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25 August 2008, 14:36 | #15 |
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Well I was 6 when I got a Tandy TRS-80 and 9 when I got a Speccy 128 +2. I still think I will be one of the youngest from the OCS/ECS era.
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Surely not? I've been looking for a C128D for years and never come across one at a sensible price. There is one on Ebay now. £50 ($100) starting price (below some reserve) not in great condition and it's partially broken!! It will probably go for over £100 ($200) even in this condition!
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Obviously it depends on the item and location. For instance, the SX-64 is quite common here and relatively scare in Europe. PETs are also way more common over here. You'll actually see them sitting on the side of the road waiting to be hauled away.
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@ Alexh
love that Amiga UK prices/ bio rythm? theory...good read..sounds like a good paper for sociology 101 in uni @ gklinger all valid points Golan though the market analysis for the Canadian/US seems to differ from European markets.... Last edited by klx300r; 25 August 2008 at 17:08. |
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