Final Fight: Enhanced

[Howardphilips]

Originally Posted by jotd

Brick you could host your game on itch.io as I do for my games (also McGeezer & JoeJoe & others). You can give it away for free with optional Paypal donation (I suggest 5 or 10 euro for such a monument). Don't quit your day job, but it pays for pizza and all

Other requests:

- please fix the remaining bugs
- please make the source available on github. It would be too bad if you lost the source. Maybe someone will create an AGA version at some point.

I second all of that, the itch.io part to get some monetary recognition about your work and sharing the source code, if any skilled coder would like to further improve your already great job.
I guess you must feel both happy and exhausted at the same time for delivering this big baby. It's incredible you managed to complete your vision for such a complex game given the Amiga's limits, all the while learning assembly coding but you did it!
Thank you so much and don't forget to thank yourself for what you achieved!

[sokolovic]

Yep. This version is what we dreamed for a long time, thanks for that @BrickNash.
An itch.io page for it is a great idea, since you could get some thankful money from it and put easily any improvement or update. Its also easier to follow.
As for the source code, it would be great also. I'm pretty sure there would be people willing to help to finish polishing the game by removing the few bugs (my CD32 retroplay joypad doesn't works with it) or make an AGA version (Jotd ? ).

[ztronzo]

Since you freely allow downloads I added the game to AmigaLive so people can try it in 2-player mode and report any problems with 2p (I already reported a few for you to look into). But I would suggest creating an itch.io page and allow it downloadable with a fixed price or a "pay what you want" option. That way anyone can donate for your work and I will also replace the current version with a DLC version so players will always have to download from your itch.io website.

And again great work! I hope you re-use the engine for future beat-em-up developments!

[Brick Nash]

Hey folks!

I've been offline this weekend just to get away from it all, but thanks for all the positive comments.

I made a few minor fixes (updated adfs can be got from same download link):

• Player 2 can now join in on the select screen
• Player 2 now starts with full health and lives on Level 1
• Player 2 can now only join in when the game is active and not during transitions (like the barrel break)

The graphical corruption when facing left, and crashing when 2P tries to join comes from not having the extra Slow/Fast or Chip memory for the OS libraries to live in. This happens on my real A600 which only has ChipMem and nothing else (so the OS eats up 2-300KB of that ChipMem).

Be sure to set Slow or Fast to 512KB in WinUAE (or just add more ChipMem).

I did mention this in my release post (and the README file), but TBH I should have better error handling in the game which just tells the user there's not enough memory. Still, there it is.

Also, I'm not interested in any sort of financial return. It was just a personal goal to learn how the Amiga worked and to make something for the system I grew up with. I feel like I've achieved that.

As I said, I'll likely come back later in the year and do one more revision build when I have some motivation back, but barring bug fixes, the game is exactly the way I want it, so I'd like to move on.

Cheers!

[vulture]

@Brick Nash

Thank you for all your work and for the fixes m8! Recharge your batteries and come back when you're feeling ready!

[franeti]

Thanks for this update! I hope you can find time to improve it with our feedback.

Is it possible to create a whdload version after your updates?

Kind regards


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[VincentGR]

Great, thank you once again.

[Brick Nash]

BTW, Bosses do take damage. Their energy just has to be worn down to the point where it's visible.

Bosses start with about 2-3x Full Energy amount, so just keep bashing them and it'll show eventually.

[PascalDe73]

@Brick Nash
@Torti

Hi,
Many Thanks for Your Update.
I know nothing about writing WHDLoad slave.
But today, I updated the Torti install with the lastest ADF version (Without Disk.bin).
I made some test on my A1200 A1230Turbo+II With 32 MB FastRam (KS HYP 3.1.4) :
The game is really nice but I obtain a glish graphic error on the ring with Sodom : I obtain some bad lines on the floor in the ring.

In the new Readme file I saw KICKSTART V2.05 REV 37.300,

Maybe Torti need to update the Slave ? is a SLave with Workbench 1.3 is correct now with that information ?

About that glish... I don't know if it is a game problem or a slave problem ...

Please Could You have a look ?

Best regards,

Pascal

[VincentGR]

Originally Posted by Brick Nash

BTW, Bosses do take damage. Their energy just has to be worn down to the point where it's visible.

Bosses start with about 2-3x Full Energy amount, so just keep bashing them and it'll show eventually.

Indeed, I noticed that yesterday.

[Brick Nash]

Originally Posted by PascalDe73

@Brick Nash
@Torti

Hi,
Many Thanks for Your Update.
I know nothing about writing WHDLoad slave.
But today, I updated the Torti install with the lastest ADF version (Without Disk.bin).
I made some test on my A1200 A1230Turbo+II With 32 MB FastRam (KS HYP 3.1.4) :
The game is really nice but I obtain a glish graphic error on the ring with Sodom : I obtain some bad lines on the floor in the ring.

In the new Readme file I saw KICKSTART V2.05 REV 37.300,

Maybe Torti need to update the Slave ? is a SLave with Workbench 1.3 is correct now with that information ?

About that glish... I don't know if it is a game problem or a slave problem ...

Please Could You have a look ?

Best regards,

Pascal

Unfortunately I don't really know anything about WHDLoad. I'm leaving that side of things to the community to do other setups using what's there if they wish.

The game wasn't really designed for anything else other than an un-accelerated Amiga 600, so I'm unsure how it'd react to other setups.

[PascalDe73]

Originally Posted by Brick Nash

Unfortunately I don't really know anything about WHDLoad. I'm leaving that side of things to the community to do other setups using what's there if they wish.

The game wasn't really designed for anything else other than an un-accelerated Amiga 600, so I'm unsure how it'd react to other setups.

Hi,


Ok Many thanks for Your answer, I wrote to Torti about It... but maybe JOTD could have a look too to obtain an official slave ?


Best Regards,


Pascal

[tomcat666]

Originally Posted by Brick Nash

Unfortunately I don't really know anything about WHDLoad. I'm leaving that side of things to the community to do other setups using what's there if they wish.

The game wasn't really designed for anything else other than an un-accelerated Amiga 600, so I'm unsure how it'd react to other setups.

It is pretty good on the ultra-fast pistorm32 configuration. Actually everything is working perfectly except the timer ... it basically doesn't count down at all, maybe goes down by a second or two til the level is finished. Everything else seems to be good.

[Brick Nash]

Originally Posted by tomcat666

It is pretty good on the ultra-fast pistorm32 configuration. Actually everything is working perfectly except the timer ... it basically doesn't count down at all, maybe goes down by a second or two til the level is finished. Everything else seems to be good.

That sounds about right actually. I deliberately made it tick down longer because lots of these games have the timer set way too fast, and it's also not something I think is an essential feature. It was left in purely for aesthetics.

[Torti-the-Smurf]

Thanks for the Update Prototron (i had not yet time to test it)

But i updated the FFE WHDload pack for your all convenience.
https://eab.abime.net/zone/FinalFightEnhancedWHD13.lha

The good thing about this setup is, that its basically "future proofed".

So, if a new version comes out,
you Folks only have to overwrite the older files within the DATA folder ( but leave the folder C & S alone ) .

Greetings Folks... i have to Smurf on .....

[Brick Nash]

Originally Posted by Torti-the-Smurf

Thanks for the Update Prototron (i had not yet time to test it)

But i updated the FFE WHDload pack for your all convenience.
https://eab.abime.net/zone/FinalFightEnhancedWHD13.lha

The good thing about this setup is, that its basically "future proofed".

So, if a new version comes out,
you Folks only have to overwrite the older files within the DATA folder ( but leave the folder C & S alone ) .

Greetings Folks... i have to Smurf on .....

All thanks should go to you for making the game more accessible and able to run correctly. My sincerest gratitude.

I'll put the link in the YouTube descriptions.

[Seiya]

whdload don't work because missing s/startup-sequence

[DanyPPC]

Originally Posted by Seiya

whdload don't work because missing s/startup-sequence

It's strange, I downloaded Torti WHDLoad version and Startup-Sequence is there.

Extract the archive directly from Amiga Workbench.

[Torti-the-Smurf]

@ Prototron.
Thank you for making this classic finally playable on the Amiga.

@ PascalDe
Got the same error when running it native. (without the slave)

Tried other kickstarts..... Same result; But in WinUE there are no Rope glitches.
So i guess, the timing differences in WinUAE vs Real & FPGA shows there ugly head again

That can also happen in custom slaves.
Depending on your own Setup, the Setup that was used to create and test the Slave,
the results can vary.

Some Folks assume the "newest" is automatically "the "best. Not true. (try the latest, of course!)
But sometimes older slaves or a JST version works better on certain setups.
There are so many variants to consider. (Chip & Ram Speed, Cpu ect)

Also, new bugs can be introduced with new slaves.

I always suggest to people: "use the slave that works for you" ; dont blindly update !

anyway... going of topic here

But yes, JODT could fix that glitch, i am pretty sure .

Not me tho. I am too dumb for that

@ Seiya.
The Pack is complete ; just extract it with LHA and off you go ....

It´s actually super easy, barely an inconvenience

[vulture]

@Brick Nash

A few gameplay notes if I may, in case you decide to improve them in a future update:

1. It's easy to kill all off screen enemies just by constantly punching. Maybe some AI improvement to circle you around instead of going straight to you.

2. Seems like the player's punch has higher priority than some enemy attacks that it shouldn't have. Andore's running chest, the bald guys running bull, Sodom's running sword attack (maybe others), all can be stopped just by constantly punching their way.
Same with drop kick. it takes higher priority while it shouldn't.

3. In contrast, those very same attacks can virtually not be dodged. Seems like no matter what, you can't get out of their way and they'll hurt you unless you attack at the same time.

4. Hollywood isn't throwing knives and enemies, in general, don't pick up knives from the ground.

5. Axl, although the animation frames seem to be there, won't defend against your attacks.

6. Maybe, just maybe, if there's enough room in RAM for one more frame, that of a falling Hagar attack, you could possibly add that move too. Perhaps by jumping first then pressing attack and down like in the arcade. That's if there's any space left.

Just some suggestions if possible.

Again, brilliant job you've done m8