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and 1 more thing why make a new os like os4. 1 2 3 4 , for ppc when ppc is pretty much dead even apple relised that fact.
if they ported the os4 to intel well now then fun would begin they would have more users and more developers and probably in the end could compete with Microsoft . obviously they have small minds and only want a select few buying old slow ppc machines ,lets face it ppc is dead thank good . unless its on a real cheap say 120 pounds motherboard I wouldn't buy 1 , I spend thousands on my pc because I have lots of software to play with this is the deciding factor of any machine , hence why mobile devices have rises so fast beause they all have lots of software that's fun and works. what does os4 have ,ohh yea os4 ,it isn't enough in todays world. if they don't use my knowledge they will die very soon. the classic amiga will always be the best as it has tons of great software. and its a real machine not an emulator. and if you want mass market you go with whats out there , intel core. but they wont listen and these same old threads will pop up from time to time. and its boring now. so im going to play with my lovly sexy 4000 and im going to twiddle with its floppy flap um yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh. |
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Eek don't get me started on these imitation OSs. There are NO flavours and there are NO camps. They are concepts created by the developers of these imitation OSs that people eventually accepted. Not me though, merely by existing they are disrespectful of AmigaOS and Amiga. There is however nothing I can do about it so like everything I can't do anything about I forget it. There is also one VERY BIG difference between me and some MorphOS and AROS users. You will never see me post in a MorphOS thread or an AROS thread condemning there actions or trying to show them up or misrepresent them or promote AmigaOS4.x as the better choice. I am indifferent and I keep away. Likewise with the older models, I don't enter threads on EAB for example and say "hey! a faster SAM or AmigaOne X1000 will provide a solution for what you're trying to do here!" Modern AmigaOS deserves this as well but as you see in this thread it doesn't happen. People have to condemn yet again. What gives there voice more weight? It's only there narrow minded opinion. There dreams are at a dead end, they got off the ride, perhaps they had no passion in the start just wowed at the potential of the Amiga. Why do they harass people who simply want to enjoy a continuation. They can believe what they want but it's there own perception. There are a couple in particular that are very self righteous and one day they are going to get theres, no one can go on for so long with such a hateful overview and not have karma kick there butt eventually. Quote:
I am biased because I believe what Trevor is doing is exactly what I'd do. You have to start somewhere and he has the passion to drive it, nothing like this would work or even start without passion. I hope you understand I'm not trying to convert you or educate you I am just trying to show that my perception is just as good as yours and all I want to do is be positive about what I like to do without viewing the same repeated BS in everyone of our threads! There are hundreds of threads on EAB please let those interested in AmigaOS4.x read and post in threads that are positive than tainted with views of people who don't appreciate its existence. Last edited by prowler; 24 November 2013 at 01:28. |
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Well Said Slayer.
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Then I ask you this: What makes an Amiga an Amiga?
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I'm pretty sure the point slayer is trying to make is that this thread is specifically entitled for those who are interested in the progress of AmigaOS4.1. Whether you like it or not is not the topic of the thread. Please feel free to open another thread to discuss why you don not like reading about AmigaOS4.1 advancements on this Amiga site OR even better complain to a mod here. Why post at all in a thread that doesn't interest you ??? |
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Modern PC's are using the same as they did in 1981, just with stuff added. This so called "Amiga", is just a old PC from 2005 with a PPC and weird bios. It even uses IBM Text mode at boot time! Quote:
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The question what makes an Amiga is not something that can be answered, it means different things to different people.
I know this forum is targeted towards Classics but NG owners should also feel welcome here shouldn't they? To get back on topic, cool SMP support makes sense, hope they manage it soon. Will that be for 4.2? Last edited by prowler; 24 November 2013 at 01:35. Reason: Added quote. |
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+1 btw, since this thead is full of off topic anyhow, have you seen kipper2k around? |
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Side note: You'll notice me talking about over priced and under powered earlier. I don't equate those to crap. Classic Amigas are too expensive and underpowered, too, and I don't think they're crap, either. I've already said that I should have kept my big mouth shut about the X1000, especially since I neither like nor hate it. The same applies to AOS4. I have nothing against AOS4 machines and AOS4, and was simply asking a question in response to what Slayer wrote (see the part I quoted), without trying to be offensive. In relation to what I wrote in my first posts, you're absolutely right, but I don't see a problem with replying to other people's posts. Quote:
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Whilst trying desperately to avoid this thread, I feel compelled to make one final post before finally ignoring it.
As an x1000 owner, I can confidently state that the x1000 is not crap. As an x1000 user I can also confirm that it is the fastest AmigaOS machine available. As a sensible adult, I wont get dragged into circular forum threads with those who have never used an x1000, yet continue to insist on comparing apples with oranges. Last edited by prowler; 24 November 2013 at 01:39. |
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It is by no means bad at all, to enjoy and be willing to pay $$$$ for an AmigaOne and OS4, as long as you dont try to force others in claiming "this is a real Amiga", when it is clearly not. Real Amigas ended production in the 90s. Deal with it. Last edited by prowler; 24 November 2013 at 01:40. |
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Its emulation nothing real about it there. Last edited by prowler; 24 November 2013 at 01:41. |
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Live and let live for gods sake. Its a hobby computer, if people are happy leave them be. They arent trying to convert you, just posting news updates every once in a while. I honestly dont see the harm in it and even find it interesting to read about what is going on without checking other forums and news sites devoted to the topic. Last edited by prowler; 24 November 2013 at 01:42. |
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Claiming an emulator is a real Amiga is as foolish as claiming an AmigaOne is a real Amiga. Perhaps you read too quickly and assumed other things. |
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I'm really genuinely interested which games on OS 4.x use a 2011 graphics card btw. I don't follow the game development there, so this thread seemed like a good spot to ask...
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So, the same applies for MacOS X, it's not Macintosh, because it doesn't run under 68k or PPC anymore?
Even if the X1000 is under-powered compared to peecees (which is not an equal comparison), it's the fastest computer that runs AmigaOS, like it or not. Do you really need quad-core processors and 16GB of RAM etc, to run AmigaOS native programs? I don't think so. The biggest mistake in the Amiga community and its future, its the separation in 4 different camps. THIS IS the biggest mistake. Just sit down and leave any arguments aside and imagine where AmigaOS would be today without those camps. In the 80s and 90s we were one of the biggest communities together, today we are fighting each other about what is the real AmigaOS or the real Amiga computer. We are just for laughs, unfortunately. |
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