Roadshow incompatibility, AmiTCP, Poseidon and AmigaExplorer... does it work for you

[McTrinsic]

Hi,
for some time I have been a happy Roadshow user.
I have an Asix-based USB2Eth-adapter with the help of the Poseidon stack.
The Amiga is an ECS-Phoenix with 2MB Chip and a 030/50 with 32MB.
USB is provided via a RapidRoad adapter on a clockport.

Works good with iBrowse.

With FTP (AmFTP, mFTP, AmigaTradeCenter) and AmigaExplorer - not, though. There is no data transmitted, file transfer just won't start. No crashes, though. Just won't happen.

With AmiTCP 4.3 both FTP and AmigaExplorer do work.

I wouldn't want to change the TCP-stack, though.

Anyone have similar experiences??

Thanks,
McT

[McTrinsic]

Oh, I forgot: it's OS3.1 with wb lib from OS3.9.

[gazj82]

My copy of roadshow does work with everything, although I use os 3.9. I'll get my config files off shortly and post them here for you.

[gazj82]

Ok this is my s:network-startup script. This does not run on startup, I run it manually when I want network access.

; $VER: Network-Startup 1.3 (22.11.2010)
FailAt 30
Run >NIL: NetLogViewer CX_POPUP=NO
AddNetInterface DEVS:NetInterfaces/~(#?.info) QUIET

Then I have this file called "dlink" in my NetInterfaces folder. Although you need to make sure the line device= is referencing your ethernet driver.

# $VER: Ariadne 1.2 (27.11.2010)
#
# Configuration for the Village Tronic "Ariadne" Ethernet card.

# The device name is mandatory
device=cnet.device

# If not provided, unit number 0 will be used. You may
# have to change this if there are multiple cards of the
# same type installed in your machine, or if your network
# hardware supports several independent connections
#unit=0

# You must either pick a fixed (static) IPv4 address and
# a corresponding subnet mask, or request DHCP (dynamic)
# network address configuration.
# You can combine address/netmask/dhcp, which has the effect
# of asking the DHCP server to assign the requested IPv4
# address and subnet mask to this interface, if possible.
address=192.168.1.80
netmask=255.255.255.0
configure=dhcp

# If no DHCP server is present in your network, you can
# use automatic interface IPv4 address assignment through
# the ZeroConf protocol. Note that this will not set up
# default route and DNS servers for you, only the interface
# address is configured.
#configure=auto

# This variant of automatic IPv4 address assignment should
# be used in a wireless network instead of 'configure=auto'
#configure=fastauto

# You can enable diagnostic messages which can be helpful in
# tracking down configuration errors.
#debug=yes

# You can choose how much memory will be used when handling
# incoming and outgoing network traffic for this device.
# The default is to reserve 32 buffers of 1500 byte each, both
# inbound and outbound traffic. Larger values may provide
# better performance.
#iprequests=32
#writerequests=32

# For diagnostic and monitoring purposes it can be helpful to
# capture network traffic that flows through this interface.
# To enable this option, select one of filter=local,
# filter=ipandarp or filter=everything
#filter=local
#filter=ipandarp
#filter=everything

# The following options are specific to the Ariadne network
# hardware and work around limitations of the hardware
# design.
copymode=fast
requiresinitdelay=yes

[thomas]

A4000, Deneb USB, Poseidon 4.4, cheap 100 MBit USB adapter, usbmoschipeth.device, Roadshow 1.9. Works perfectly.

[McTrinsic]

Even for FTP and AExplorer?

If so - what are my chances to get an idea where the issue lies??

[McTrinsic]

Thanks gazj82, I do have Roadshow and Internet up and running - with e.g. iBrowse.
Interestingly , FTP does transfer files for viewing into T: and opens it.
Just transfer as a file to any location won't work. Not to T: either, if I tell AmFTP to transfer something there.

[nogginthenog]

FTP is an odd protocol as it creates an outgoing connection and also listens for an incoming connection. This is not firewall friendly!

Try enabling passive mode in your FTP client. No idea about AExplorer.

[ptyerman]

Originally Posted by nogginthenog

FTP is an odd protocol as it creates an outgoing connection and also listens for an incoming connection. This is not firewall friendly!

Try enabling passive mode in your FTP client. No idea about AExplorer.

Indeed, ftp can be rather tricky when it decides to play up.
As stated, enable passive mode and open the relevant ports in your router and firewall. Unless you just want internal network, you can leave the ports closed and turn off passive mode for that.

[McTrinsic]

As mentioned in the first post, with AmiTCP it works.
With Roadshpw it doesnt work.

I can confirm this to be dependent on the bsdsocket.library from Roadshow.

Today I tried this:
- renamed the bsds...lib from Roadshow
- enabled AmiTCP first, thereby loading the bsdsocket.lib from AmiTCP
- Close AmiTCP
- named the lib from Roadshow correctly again
- Start Roadshow
-> FTP works

If I start Roadshow after boot up with its own lib, it wont work.

Thanks,
McT

[duga]

Please ask in the official Roadshow 68k support forum: http://www.amigafuture.de/viewforum.php?f=34

[illy5603]

Originally Posted by ptyerman

Indeed, ftp can be rather tricky when it decides to play up.
As stated, enable passive mode and open the relevant ports in your router and firewall. Unless you just want internal network, you can leave the ports closed and turn off passive mode for that.

Yes, and if you have a modern router / modem enabling UPnP will allow the correct ports both ways for FTP to function in any mode. I used to turn off UPnP because I thought myself so smart that I didn't need it and I had many issues with XBOX and other systems. Just turn it on.

[McTrinsic]

I'll head over to the Roadshow-forum as mentioned above.

It is not the router as it works with a different stack.

[ptyerman]

Originally Posted by illy5603

Yes, and if you have a modern router / modem enabling UPnP will allow the correct ports both ways for FTP to function in any mode. I used to turn off UPnP because I thought myself so smart that I didn't need it and I had many issues with XBOX and other systems. Just turn it on.

UPnP is nothing more than a massive security risk in so many ways it should be disabled by default, better yet nuked from orbit!
There's no easier way for spyware to keep tabs on you than UPnP. Turn it off.

[illy5603]

Originally Posted by ptyerman

UPnP is nothing more than a massive security risk in so many ways it should be disabled by default, better yet nuked from orbit!
There's no easier way for spyware to keep tabs on you than UPnP. Turn it off.

UPNP is basically required for modern gaming consoles so sure, if you don't have an XBOX or Playstation, I would agree with leaving it disabled.

[McTrinsic]

Just to clarify: it is not an issue of Roadshow.
Maybe of the Rapidroad or its drivers.
I got a MosChip USB2Eth-Adapter as an alternative to the Asix-based one.
While in 99% of the cases the MosChip-Adapter will "fail to initialize" as Poseidon puts it, I did once succeed in being recognized by Poseidon. In this case, Roadshow rocks in terms of performance. Works flawlessly with AExplorer.