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good so far, work on it | 3 | 42.86% | |
bollocks, scrap it | 2 | 28.57% | |
who cares | 2 | 28.57% | |
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28 July 2006, 00:32 | #1 |
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module ripper alpha testers needed
hi everyone,
i've been working on a windows application to scan through binary files for amiga module formats. at the moment, i've got a decent gui set up and some hopefuly useful features, but what i need is some input from you guys here. currently it's just picking up sidmon v1 modules; however the actual module scanning processes are going to be the easiest thing about it. basically all i need is to know what i should be doing with the thing to make it easier for people to use, so i can speed up the work i put into it in the long-run. what i really need is for some of you guys to throw test data at it; amiga memory dumps.. old ripped sidmon files (it looks like it's working with everything from exotica).. any demos/games which you are pretty sure include sidmon music.. and then have a play around with the gui to see what i need to do with it. the long-term goal of the thing is to make an encyclopaedic ripping tool for windows, for amiga modules. comments/help/observations/suggestions/praise/insults/bad criticism - all appreciated Last edited by snyp; 16 November 2010 at 18:55. |
28 July 2006, 09:16 | #2 |
Wannabe asm coder ;)
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Wasn't it easier to help out coding Pro-Wizard and/or Exotic Ripper?
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28 July 2006, 09:29 | #3 |
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maybe you should contact the coder of prowizard : http://asle.free.fr/prowiz/
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28 July 2006, 12:04 | #4 |
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what Exotic formats (FC,Sidmon...) are possible to convert in protracker format ? is it possible or totally impossible ?
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28 July 2006, 16:04 | #5 |
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ONE should NEVER convert exotic formats to Protracker!
it is senseless! |
28 July 2006, 17:35 | #6 | ||||
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for one thing, prowizard i'd consider more of a converting tool than a ripper. it doesn't even deal with hippel music as far as i remember. for another.. exotic ripper is for the amiga platform.. this is supposed to be for windows. and. exotic ripper does fail sometimes. and i don't. =p i am obsessed, see. Quote:
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but.. i plan to do some other types of conversions.. example; sidmon image module <> sidmon song sonic arranger image module <> sonic arranger song - so at least the music is editable or it can be loaded into the editor again. |
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28 July 2006, 20:14 | #7 |
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it was just a TECHNICAL question about format and conversion (not a question if you are agree or not...I have nothing to do with your feelings)
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28 July 2006, 20:17 | #8 | |
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i asked for input, and it appeared as though you were giving it. so you are in the wrong thread. |
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28 July 2006, 20:21 | #9 | |
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you'd need to parse the pattern data.. notes, effects.. etc.. then possibly convert the synth-sounds (which are given their cool effects with real-time processing) into samples instead. some hippel-format songs were converted into fc13 for use in cracktros.. but they didn't sound the same as the original. |
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28 July 2006, 22:04 | #10 | |
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Exotic formats converted to Protracker
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28 July 2006, 22:11 | #11 | |
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28 July 2006, 22:16 | #12 |
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yeah, future composer was based on replay code from hippel's work
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28 July 2006, 22:25 | #13 |
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The Great Giana Sisters Exotic mod converted to protracker.
As an example of conversion to protracker, look in The Zone for the Great Giana Sisters protracker conversion.
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28 July 2006, 22:27 | #14 | |
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someone was working on a pattern data converter to convert synthesis format to protracker, in fact it was a genie for Delitracker that catch the ouput of the noteplayer but unfortunately he never finish this project... at my knowledge.
To convert synth-sound into samples, it sounds more difficult but as you said, nothing is impossible. Quote:
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29 July 2006, 00:49 | #15 |
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Playing with this now. Just a few features that you'll need to finish/enhance:
The filename scan? bar should be editable via keyboard. Hexdump should work w/ Pg[Up,Dn]. Working Deliplayer launcher. Ability to click on file map and play area. Resizable window? Internal module replayer? File history. Highlighting of module in hexdump. Would test more, but out of 1244 modules that I've ripped, there were only 4 SM1 mods and I have 2 in my current collection. |
29 July 2006, 01:55 | #16 | |||
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Yop,
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Try Sidmon v2 for example. I remember having sent a few created by Einstein/Betrayal to Peter Kunath that drove him crazy . Well, nothing that can't be done since, well, it _is_ done . A lot of work upcoming, for sure. Anyway, good luck chief. Btw, you should do something for truncated files because I believe it's a failure . Cya Sylvain PS: Where's the source code ? |
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29 July 2006, 03:03 | #17 |
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Multi Ripper 3.0 Beta
There are a few rippers for PC (they are very rare. at least like the ones that were made for the Amiga).
One is Multi Ripper, this one is able to extract over 110 different file format (including pics), and its opensource. You can find it here. |
29 July 2006, 03:10 | #18 |
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snyp you have my full support
Regardless of what others think.. the more Windows applications we have for handling the various amiga formats (be it audio, visual or whatever) the better Good luck and I hope to see a fully functional ripper with some super-duper features soon |
29 July 2006, 03:14 | #19 |
'Difficult'.
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hehe.. before i concentrate on anything anyone's said here..
Asle.. honest friend, no offense with "doesn't 'even' deal with hippel".. i apologise. your work is fantastic and people who are using it will agree. i see prowizard as a conversion tool for protracker formats, you must agree it's function is best used for this purpose.. and what i said there was because i think the comparison between the ripper i'm making and a tool that is most widely used for converting protracker-packers wasn't fair.. especially when told i should give up the thing to help work on someone else's project. but you're absolutely right.. my program does nothing at the moment. i just need some of you guys here to tell me what i need to do to make it better for you to use. *tips hat* |
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