SWOS Slowdown on 68030

fitzsteve · 25 January 2010, 00:38

Sorry if this has been covered before, I did search to no avail...

I recently upgraded my A1200 to 030 (Typhoon Mk2 @40mhz)

But SWOS (all versions) sufferes from slowdown. I have tried 'NOVBRMOVE' as suggested in the readme, this didn't help.

Have tried different Ram sticks, 8mb, 32mb and 64mb. All show the same behaviour so its defo the 030.

Is there anything else I can try?

Works fine on my 020...

Cheers,

Steve.

Galahad/FLT · 25 January 2010, 00:54

Some of the blitter code needs replacing with code using the CPU, which i'm going to get around to doing soon.

fitzsteve · 25 January 2010, 00:59

Sweet good news. Thanks for the reply and also the work making these HD installers

mr.niceguy · 25 January 2010, 10:21

That's why we've made another HD Version without this "bug".

fitzsteve · 25 January 2010, 12:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.niceguy

That's why we've made another HD Version without this "bug".

Where can I get this from Mr Niceguy?

Hungry Horace · 26 January 2010, 00:07

yeah, dont keep us in suspense Mr.NiceGuy!

Psygore · 26 January 2010, 12:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Some of the blitter code needs replacing with code using the CPU, which i'm going to get around to doing soon.

Why not relocating the main prog in fastmem? It will remove the slowdown problem.

Gordon · 26 January 2010, 22:15

I uploaded to the zone the version i used to use on my 030 machine. I never had any slowdown, but you have save to floppy disk.

fitzsteve · 26 January 2010, 22:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon

I uploaded to the zone the version i used to use on my 030 machine. I never had any slowdown, but you have save to floppy disk.

Thanks for that Gordon, but sadly this version still slows down on my 030

Fabie · 26 January 2010, 22:56

I have sensible soccer 97-98 I think is the last release..
and always there are slow downs in the game
this happen also in winuae...so I think it's a bug in the game not related to any cpu

Retro-Nerd · 26 January 2010, 23:11

I've never had a slowdown in SWOS (all versions), with/without my M-Tec 1230. Never seen it in WinUAE too. Strange.

Fabie · 26 January 2010, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

I've never had a slowdown in SWOS (all versions), with/without my M-Tec 1230. Never seen it in WinUAE too. Strange.

there are small slowdowns.....maybe you didn't notice it because you don't play it very much ....or maybe you play a different version free of bugs

which version you play?

Retro-Nerd · 26 January 2010, 23:31

I played it a lot since the 90s, currently an updated SWOS 96/97 version. If there are minor slowsdowns then i can't see them.

Fabie · 26 January 2010, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

I played it a lot since the 90s, currently an updated SWOS 96/97 version. If there are minor slowsdowns then i can't see them.

I played only the last release 97-98
can you upload it to the zone your oldest 96-97 version please
I wanna try it...thanks

Retro-Nerd · 26 January 2010, 23:46

There is a sporadic minor flickering (including the player numbers) for a split second, where the players don't move. Do you mean this? I would call this a real slowdown, it doesn't affect the gameplay.

Fabie · 27 January 2010, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro-Nerd

There is a sporadic minor flickering (including the player numbers) for a split second, where the CPU players doesn't move. Do you mean this? I would call this a real slowdown, it doesn't effect the gameplay.

no no...in my version there are minor slowdowns.....no flickering

Retro-Nerd · 27 January 2010, 00:13

To be honest only the player numbers flickers a bit. I'm afraid my version won't help. I use a preinstalled KGWHD pack version of SWOS 96/97, with the latest season update.

Just watched a CPU vs CPU game. I can't see any slowdowns.

Gordon · 27 January 2010, 00:18

Retro where did you get 2010 data?

Retro-Nerd · 27 January 2010, 00:20

Actually not a complete season update. It's currently with the data from June 2009.

http://synchronated.110mb.com/updates.html

Gordon · 27 January 2010, 00:23

Ok thats the one i got too. He wont be doing one this season unfortunaly.

Sorry to go slightly off topic

The only slowdown ive ever had was on my 600 when there were alot of players on the screen

25 January 2010, 00:38	#1
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	SWOS Slowdown on 68030 Sorry if this has been covered before, I did search to no avail... I recently upgraded my A1200 to 030 (Typhoon Mk2 @40mhz) But SWOS (all versions) sufferes from slowdown. I have tried 'NOVBRMOVE' as suggested in the readme, this didn't help. Have tried different Ram sticks, 8mb, 32mb and 64mb. All show the same behaviour so its defo the 030. Is there anything else I can try? Works fine on my 020... Cheers, Steve.

26 January 2010, 23:46	#15
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	There is a sporadic minor flickering (including the player numbers) for a split second, where the players don't move. Do you mean this? I would call this a real slowdown, it doesn't affect the gameplay. Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 27 January 2010 at 00:45.

27 January 2010, 00:20	#19
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	Actually not a complete season update. It's currently with the data from June 2009. http://synchronated.110mb.com/updates.html Last edited by Retro-Nerd; 27 January 2010 at 00:46.

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25 January 2010, 00:54	#2
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,997	Some of the blitter code needs replacing with code using the CPU, which i'm going to get around to doing soon.

25 January 2010, 00:59	#3
fitzsteve Professional slacker! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kent, UK Age: 44 Posts: 6,683	Sweet good news. Thanks for the reply and also the work making these HD installers

25 January 2010, 10:21	#4
mr.niceguy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Hamburg Posts: 117	That's why we've made another HD Version without this "bug".

26 January 2010, 00:07	#6
Hungry Horace Wipe-Out Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: . Age: 43 Posts: 2,538	yeah, dont keep us in suspense Mr.NiceGuy!

26 January 2010, 22:15	#8
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	I uploaded to the zone the version i used to use on my 030 machine. I never had any slowdown, but you have save to floppy disk.

26 January 2010, 22:56	#10
Fabie Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: France Posts: 478	I have sensible soccer 97-98 I think is the last release.. and always there are slow downs in the game this happen also in winuae...so I think it's a bug in the game not related to any cpu

26 January 2010, 23:11	#11
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	I've never had a slowdown in SWOS (all versions), with/without my M-Tec 1230. Never seen it in WinUAE too. Strange.

26 January 2010, 23:31	#13
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	I played it a lot since the 90s, currently an updated SWOS 96/97 version. If there are minor slowsdowns then i can't see them.

27 January 2010, 00:13	#17
Retro-Nerd Missile Command Champion Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Germany Age: 52 Posts: 12,446	To be honest only the player numbers flickers a bit. I'm afraid my version won't help. I use a preinstalled KGWHD pack version of SWOS 96/97, with the latest season update. Just watched a CPU vs CPU game. I can't see any slowdowns.

27 January 2010, 00:18	#18
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	Retro where did you get 2010 data?

27 January 2010, 00:23	#20
Gordon Settler Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Serf City Posts: 1,760	Ok thats the one i got too. He wont be doing one this season unfortunaly. Sorry to go slightly off topic The only slowdown ive ever had was on my 600 when there were alot of players on the screen

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