I was astonished when I saw this.

[adrdesign]

I wonder how he managed to flash/program the PIC... maybe a with hammer and a chisel?

[Mounty]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

@Mounty, some A1200 (1D4 for example) have a header the Mouse port plugs into, would you be able to make one which connects to the header and secures to the port so it's all internal?

Sounds like that would have very limited appeal. Not sure I would be able to recoup the development/prototyping costs.

Another problem would be connecting the USB or PS/2 mouse to the Amiga if all you can access from the outside is the 9-pin mouse port.

[fitzsteve]

Yeah probably more of a mod someone can do by just buying the PCB

I think it would be pretty cool just having a USB port for the mouse instead of the device connected and then the mouse.

[Zippy Zapp]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

@Mounty, some A1200 (1D4 for example) have a header the Mouse port plugs into, would you be able to make one which connects to the header and secures to the port so it's all internal?

Doing it this way wouldn't you loose the port for joystick?

[fitzsteve]

Originally Posted by Zippy Zapp

Doing it this way wouldn't you loose the port for joystick?

No, it's only the mouse port that is connected by the cable, see here:

http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.co..._darkgreen.jpg

[Mrs Beanbag]

Originally Posted by Mounty

Sounds like that would have very limited appeal. Not sure I would be able to recoup the development/prototyping costs.

Another problem would be connecting the USB or PS/2 mouse to the Amiga if all you can access from the outside is the 9-pin mouse port.

I'm not sure we understand each other...

look at how the mouse port connects on this picture:
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.co...0mb_rev1d4.jpg

Of course it could be made internal without using the header directly, it would just be a little neater is all!

Originally Posted by Zippy Zapp

Doing it this way wouldn't you loose the port for joystick?

Well, USB mouse port could be routed to the little expansion panel next to the joystick ports. Maybe some sort of switcher unit could be put in between, allowing use of both (maybe just some OR gates).

[Mounty]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

Yeah probably more of a mod someone can do by just buying the PCB

I think it would be pretty cool just having a USB port for the mouse instead of the device connected and then the mouse.

Yes you're right. It might be worth doing if you could disable/remove the db9 mouse port and fit a USB receptacle instead.

I'm sure the pros and cons have been discussed many times before on this forum.

[Zippy Zapp]

Originally Posted by fitzsteve

No, it's only the mouse port that is connected by the cable, see here:

http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.co..._darkgreen.jpg

I understand that. I remember playing some multi-player games way back when that used two joysticks. That's what I meant, unless you had some sort of switch or expansion port like mentioned by Mrs Beanbag, you would loose that capability to plug in a joystick on port 1, no?

[Mrs Beanbag]

Originally Posted by Zippy Zapp

I understand that. I remember playing some multi-player games way back when that used two joysticks. That's what I meant, unless you had some sort of switch or expansion port like mentioned by Mrs Beanbag, you would loose that capability to plug in a joystick on port 1, no?

unless the adapter could handle a USB joystick as well.

imagine that.

[Zippy Zapp]

Originally Posted by Mrs Beanbag

unless the adapter could handle a USB joystick as well.

imagine that.

That would, of course, be cool.

[Steve T]

"USB joystick as well" yeah, but neither of these are USB devices at all, they are PS/2 to Amiga adapters but with a USB port built in, for obvious and sensible reasons.

That said, I don't mean that as a put down, Mounty's boards are very, *very* well executed, as I've enthused about in the past, I've used mine for 2 years now with no problems.

[Mrs Beanbag]

hmm i wonder now if something could be rigged up to connect to both joystick ports and the parallel port, that could handle joysticks (up to 4), mice and USB sticks.

Originally Posted by Steve T

"USB joystick as well" yeah, but neither of these are USB devices at all, they are PS/2 to Amiga adapters but with a USB port built in, for obvious and sensible reasons.

yeah i realise that, just getting over-excited.

[Steve T]

Originally Posted by Mrs Beanbag

yeah i realise that, just getting over-excited.

hehe.

Maybe your device would fit over the parallel, joystick and mouse ports externally, simultaneously, running intelligently and independently of the OS, feeding signals to the correct ports based on what is connected

[Mounty]

Originally Posted by Steve T

"USB joystick as well" yeah, but neither of these are USB devices at all, they are PS/2 to Amiga adapters but with a USB port built in, for obvious and sensible reasons.

That said, I don't mean that as a put down, Mounty's boards are very, *very* well executed, as I've enthused about in the past, I've used mine for 2 years now with no problems.

Cheers Steve. There's nothing I would like better than creating an adapter that would work with a modern, non-PS/2 protocol mouse. Maybe something for the future...