Cracktro's

musashi9 · 10 July 2003, 21:12

howdy all
first time here love the forums ,wish i found them sooner

please come visit my site ,and request any cracktro you would like to see converted to flash .ill do my best to convert

bash ya left one on me!

Dizzy · 10 July 2003, 21:17

Welcome M8

Nice site, this look very cool.

rattus · 10 July 2003, 22:08

woohoo! I luuuuuuuurve cracktros! *hearts*

RCK · 10 July 2003, 22:16

very nice website !
impressive flash work

(but but, the original mods as mp3 I suppose ?

)

Amiga1992 · 11 July 2003, 07:04

I've seen this one a while ago, and it has progressed nicely. Keep up the great work!

Yes RCK, that's how it's done. I think it could be done using the mods, but how to keep the sync? Hmm... haven't checked the modplug plugin properties, is there any way to control it by Javascript RCK?

Twistin'Ghost · 11 July 2003, 07:35

Very nice!

khephren · 11 July 2003, 11:08

Would be a cack handed way of doing it, to have a flash animation load and then a mod played externally.

Good site though, love those Melon Design cracktros still. Little hard to imagine the impact those people made!

LaundroMat · 11 July 2003, 11:36

RCK · 11 July 2003, 15:15

Quote:

Originally posted by Akira
Yes RCK, that's how it's done. I think it could be done using the mods, but how to keep the sync? Hmm... haven't checked the modplug plugin properties, is there any way to control it by Javascript RCK?

no way to control modplug,
the best trick should be to include a mods player into the flash animation.

Paul · 11 July 2003, 16:55

ant512 · 11 July 2003, 23:21

Are the cracktros completely re-coded using the original graphics, partially re-coded with some animation, or non-dynamic animations?

khephren · 12 July 2003, 15:30

from the size of the files it looks like huge animations. could always download one and take it apart with a flash decomplier.

The graphics are all original.

I found the Crystal font i made for my workbench the other night, beats Topaz.

Recoding the isn't to much of a problem, they were very basic because they had to be small to fit on the small bits left of discs.

khephren · 12 July 2003, 15:33

Quote:

the best trick should be to include a mods player into the flash animation

If only RCK!!

musashi9 · 12 July 2003, 16:32

not to sure what you mean by recording or re encoding
but basicly i got all gfx from the acualy intro
which in principle sounds easy but imagine intros like the spinning company logo ,not so easy because whist its spinning and im trying to grab it other things are happinging in the back ground, like text fading in and out ect... so i had to change the code of some intros to make the background and text disapear or change all color values to lets say green ,so everything is still running only thing that isnt green is the spinning logo and this is how i can grab it ,same with the crystal green logo

other intros like the black and white cube intro from melon for crystal was made using flash u notice we have on right side white text black background ,and on left side black text white background ,this is not captured this is done in flash by having 1 white text and 1 black text run at the same time from right to left
and when it reaches the middle i dont need the white text from then onwards so i have to mask it so it only shows black text

nothing in these flash intros are a straight record from an intro if they are then they wouldnt loop like they do
each intro contains about 10 layers
1 layer could be text another layer could be a logo another layer could be scrolling stars ,and so on all compiled with flash

example:
pdx background

then add a layer for the logo

and you will end up with something like this

and then animate some stars ,add a layer for them inbetween background and logo and then balls and circles then add text
and so on

hope this answer some Questions

Amiga1992 · 12 July 2003, 18:44

NO, these are not coded, they are simulated.

kheph: if the modplug plugin was flexible enough, controlling it through javascript from within Flash wouldn't be a problem (though it might bring sync problems)

Anyway....

khephren · 12 July 2003, 19:32

Was just an educated desk!!! Didn't have a clue.

You could recreate the object in Swift 3D and bring it in that way, can do with it what you like then.

The way he has done it is probably the best way, the MP3s don't need to be recorded at 192 or 128 to sound to dissimilar to the original. I have some on my MD player and they are only at 96 (i think) and there ain't much difference in quality.

Now if only you could stream it ....

If you want to be a real flash bastard (no pun intended) then do them in Java or Blitz Basic.

10 July 2003, 21:12	#1
musashi9 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 178	Cracktro's howdy all first time here love the forums ,wish i found them sooner please come visit my site ,and request any cracktro you would like to see converted to flash .ill do my best to convert bash ya left one on me!

10 July 2003, 22:16	#4
RCK Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Paris / France Age: 45 Posts: 3,093	welcome musashi very nice website ! impressive flash work (but but, the original mods as mp3 I suppose ? )

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Dizzy Pirate Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,395	Welcome M8 Nice site, this look very cool.

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11 July 2003, 07:04	#5
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	I've seen this one a while ago, and it has progressed nicely. Keep up the great work! Yes RCK, that's how it's done. I think it could be done using the mods, but how to keep the sync? Hmm... haven't checked the modplug plugin properties, is there any way to control it by Javascript RCK?

11 July 2003, 07:35	#6
Twistin'Ghost Give up the ghost Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: U$A Age: 33 Posts: 4,662	Very nice!

11 July 2003, 11:08	#7
khephren Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Exeter, UK Age: 52 Posts: 128	Would be a cack handed way of doing it, to have a flash animation load and then a mod played externally. Good site though, love those Melon Design cracktros still. Little hard to imagine the impact those people made!

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11 July 2003, 16:55	#10
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11 July 2003, 23:21	#11
ant512 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 965	Are the cracktros completely re-coded using the original graphics, partially re-coded with some animation, or non-dynamic animations?

12 July 2003, 15:30	#12
khephren Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Exeter, UK Age: 52 Posts: 128	from the size of the files it looks like huge animations. could always download one and take it apart with a flash decomplier. The graphics are all original. I found the Crystal font i made for my workbench the other night, beats Topaz. Recoding the isn't to much of a problem, they were very basic because they had to be small to fit on the small bits left of discs.

12 July 2003, 16:32	#14
musashi9 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Japan Posts: 178	not to sure what you mean by recording or re encoding but basicly i got all gfx from the acualy intro which in principle sounds easy but imagine intros like the spinning company logo ,not so easy because whist its spinning and im trying to grab it other things are happinging in the back ground, like text fading in and out ect... so i had to change the code of some intros to make the background and text disapear or change all color values to lets say green ,so everything is still running only thing that isnt green is the spinning logo and this is how i can grab it ,same with the crystal green logo other intros like the black and white cube intro from melon for crystal was made using flash u notice we have on right side white text black background ,and on left side black text white background ,this is not captured this is done in flash by having 1 white text and 1 black text run at the same time from right to left and when it reaches the middle i dont need the white text from then onwards so i have to mask it so it only shows black text nothing in these flash intros are a straight record from an intro if they are then they wouldnt loop like they do each intro contains about 10 layers 1 layer could be text another layer could be a logo another layer could be scrolling stars ,and so on all compiled with flash example: pdx background then add a layer for the logo and you will end up with something like this and then animate some stars ,add a layer for them inbetween background and logo and then balls and circles then add text and so on hope this answer some Questions

12 July 2003, 18:44	#15
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	NO, these are not coded, they are simulated. kheph: if the modplug plugin was flexible enough, controlling it through javascript from within Flash wouldn't be a problem (though it might bring sync problems) Anyway....

12 July 2003, 19:32	#16
khephren Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Exeter, UK Age: 52 Posts: 128	Was just an educated desk!!! Didn't have a clue. You could recreate the object in Swift 3D and bring it in that way, can do with it what you like then. The way he has done it is probably the best way, the MP3s don't need to be recorded at 192 or 128 to sound to dissimilar to the original. I have some on my MD player and they are only at 96 (i think) and there ain't much difference in quality. Now if only you could stream it .... If you want to be a real flash bastard (no pun intended) then do them in Java or Blitz Basic.

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