Strange working of Picasso 96

Seiya · 25 December 2016, 20:37

i'd like to emulate a Picasso II with Winuae, but not using JIT.
If i set a Picasso II screenmode i have HALT1 on CPU or crash and guru.
If i set Jit all works very well.
Why?
If it works with Jit, should be works also without jit

Merry Xmas

Toni Wilen · 25 December 2016, 22:46

Sorry but only possible answer: Not enough information.

Seiya · 26 December 2016, 03:15

ok, as soon as i post more information

Seiya · 27 December 2016, 01:28

i made a video
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AMIGASYSTEM · 27 December 2016, 02:39

Seiya your video is not visible, the system links

--- Italiano ---

Seiya il tuo video non è visibile, sistema il link

Toni Wilen · 27 December 2016, 09:03

More information = config file and logs from both configs. Videos are 100% useless. (Paths panel, tick logging before starting emulation, include winauebootlog.txt and winuaelogt.xt)

voxel · 27 December 2016, 20:39

Hello Tony ^^)

Well picasso II is a zorro II card that support ONLY 4 MB fastram !

However, there was a "hack" jumper on the card that was "splitting" its memory support in two (they called that "segmented mem" so it could work with 6 or 8 MB fastram installed in the A2000 zorro slots. the downright of this mode was a slight performance decrease

perhaps that could help you ?
18

zipper · 27 December 2016, 21:21

1 or 2 MB...

zipper · 27 December 2016, 21:23

So 6 MB left free. Segmented mode did a severe hit to the performance, as it worked only with the original Picasso software.

Seiya · 28 December 2016, 04:18

now it works..jit or no jit there is no problems.
i make a clean installation and my old 1997 workbench set, and no problems.
The only difference in yesterday setup is that today i used "more compatibile " only on CPU side.

Toni Wilen · 28 December 2016, 09:25

It still would have been nice to at least see the original config file, obviously it had some bad settings that didn't get validated properly.

Seiya · 28 December 2016, 11:08

now i make some other test and then i send che config

Seiya · 28 December 2016, 11:33

i send 3 config file.

two are working configuration that in the previous days not working

"accelerator config" is another problem when i choose to use accelerator config like "apollo 1240", "blizzard 1230" or other type of these ones.

Toni Wilen · 28 December 2016, 16:09

I can't duplicate any crashes with my Picasso96 hardfile. It probably requires some specific WB/P96/something else on HDF.

Seiya · 28 December 2016, 22:31

as regard acceleators, maybe i found because crashed. Maybe a double memory setting (general Z3 Memory and Accelerator memory).
i have mande a zip with wb3.1 with rtg and apollo 1240. Now it works very well

Toni Wilen · 29 December 2016, 16:43

Yeah, A1200 accelerator + Z3 can cause conflicts. It is usually quite impossible in real world.

"UAE" mode Z3 can be more safe which can explain the difference now that WinUAE has better "real" Z3 support and prefers Z3 when possible. (if "Automatic") mode. This is yet another compatibility improvement that can break old ("bad") configs.

Seiya · 29 December 2016, 17:00

ok

25 December 2016, 20:37	#1
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,340	Strange working of Picasso 96 i'd like to emulate a Picasso II with Winuae, but not using JIT. If i set a Picasso II screenmode i have HALT1 on CPU or crash and guru. If i set Jit all works very well. Why? If it works with Jit, should be works also without jit Merry Xmas

27 December 2016, 09:03	#6
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	More information = config file and logs from both configs. Videos are 100% useless. (Paths panel, tick logging before starting emulation, include winauebootlog.txt and winuaelogt.xt) Last edited by Toni Wilen; 27 December 2016 at 09:27.

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25 December 2016, 22:46	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Sorry but only possible answer: Not enough information.

26 December 2016, 03:15	#3
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,340	ok, as soon as i post more information

27 December 2016, 01:28	#4
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,340	i made a video [ Show youtube player ]

27 December 2016, 02:39	#5
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Seiya your video is not visible, the system links --- Italiano --- Seiya il tuo video non è visibile, sistema il link

27 December 2016, 20:39	#7
voxel Amiga Nuts! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Le Mayet d'Ecole, 03800, FRANCE Posts: 176	Hello Tony ^^) Well picasso II is a zorro II card that support ONLY 4 MB fastram ! However, there was a "hack" jumper on the card that was "splitting" its memory support in two (they called that "segmented mem" so it could work with 6 or 8 MB fastram installed in the A2000 zorro slots. the downright of this mode was a slight performance decrease perhaps that could help you ? 18

27 December 2016, 21:21	#8
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,837	1 or 2 MB...

27 December 2016, 21:23	#9
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,837	So 6 MB left free. Segmented mode did a severe hit to the performance, as it worked only with the original Picasso software.

28 December 2016, 04:18	#10
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,340	now it works..jit or no jit there is no problems. i make a clean installation and my old 1997 workbench set, and no problems. The only difference in yesterday setup is that today i used "more compatibile " only on CPU side.

28 December 2016, 09:25	#11
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	It still would have been nice to at least see the original config file, obviously it had some bad settings that didn't get validated properly.

28 December 2016, 11:08	#12
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,340	now i make some other test and then i send che config

28 December 2016, 16:09	#14
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	I can't duplicate any crashes with my Picasso96 hardfile. It probably requires some specific WB/P96/something else on HDF.

29 December 2016, 16:43	#16
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Yeah, A1200 accelerator + Z3 can cause conflicts. It is usually quite impossible in real world. "UAE" mode Z3 can be more safe which can explain the difference now that WinUAE has better "real" Z3 support and prefers Z3 when possible. (if "Automatic") mode. This is yet another compatibility improvement that can break old ("bad") configs.

29 December 2016, 17:00	#17
Seiya Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Italy Posts: 2,340	ok

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