All Games Freezes, Please Help Me! - Page 3

piemmeweb · 25 June 2010, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

showconfig >RAM:config.txt

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemmeweb

Hello, how to copy and paste showconfig data in a text file?

I tried with commandline but the result is the same, it doesn't works

Also, I have no usb-stack running

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wepl

just delete c:whdload

your problems sounds like some addtional hardware creates additional interrupts.
what extra hardware is in the a4000 beside the cs60?
usb-stack running?
please provide output of sys:utilities/showconf

i recommend to disable s:whdload.prefs by renaming the file or commenting all entries, there should be no options necessary for this machine

to make sure no other software is interfering boot without startup-sequence and try whdload from the intial commandline, e.g.

Code:

cd where-game-is-installed
whdload xxx.slave

Here's my showconfig:

PROCESSOR: CPU 68060/68060fpu/68060mmu
CUSTOM CHIPS: AA PAL Alice (id=$0023), AA Lisa (id=$00F8)
VERS: Kickstart version 40.68, Exec version 40.10, Disk version 45.1
RAM: Node type $A, Attributes $505 (FAST), at $8000000-$FFFFFFF (128.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $505 (FAST), at $7000000-$7FFFFFF (16.0 meg)
Node type $A, Attributes $703 (CHIP), at $1000-$1FFFFF (~2.0 meg)
BOARDS:
Board (phase 5): Prod=8512/34($2140/$22)
(@$40000000, size 64meg, subsize same)
Board (Macro System): Prod=18260/12($4754/$C) (@$E90000 64K)
Board (Village Tronic): Prod=2167/201($877/$C9) (@$EA0000 64K)

whiteb · 25 June 2010, 14:01

I wonder if this is just Heat related ?

The A4000 already has a lack of Airflow, but having an 060 (MK 1), and a couple of extra cards in there, and it crashes after minutes of game time (Not while booting). Something is overheating and causing the crash. Does the 060 have heatsink/fan ?

kipper2k · 25 June 2010, 15:45

it seems to be a hardware issue, Comparing this to the Xbox 360, the 360 freezes once the temp of the grfx chip gets a little too toasty (Latest figures are reporting a 54% failure rate of the 360s btw),
A simple test would be to open the cover, get a big fan and blow air in to see if it changes anything. It will take 5 minutes of your time to try

piemmeweb · 25 June 2010, 16:12

I don't think tha't a hoverhet problem, my amiga4000 already have additional fans inside, also only game freeze if I click F10 or PrnSc the os works well

The last strange things:

If I install a different version of whdload, all works fine but after reboot nothing works.

Example:

1)Version 16.9 doesn't works
2)I remove 16.9 and install 16.5 , game works fine
3)I hard reboot the machine and try again , game freezes
4)I remove 16.5 and install 16.6, game works fine
5)Hard reboot again and freezes
6)Remove old and install 15,0 , game works

I'm thinking: is the startup-sequence the problem???

Galahad/FLT · 25 June 2010, 17:39

Someone else had a problem like this.

Bootup with no startup-sequence, chances are there is something in there that boots before WHDLoad that is screwing it up.

piemmeweb · 25 June 2010, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

Someone else had a problem like this.

Bootup with no startup-sequence, chances are there is something in there that boots before WHDLoad that is screwing it up.

how bootup with no startup-sequence?

Graham Humphrey · 25 June 2010, 18:12

Hold both mouse buttons down when you switch the computer on and select Boot With No Startup-Sequence from the menu.

killergorilla · 25 June 2010, 18:12

You search EAB to find out

Wepl · 26 June 2010, 13:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemmeweb

Board (Macro System): Prod=18260/12($4754/$C) (@$E90000 64K)
Board (Village Tronic): Prod=2167/201($877/$C9) (@$EA0000 64K)

what are these two boards?
try whdload without executing startup-sequence

StingRay · 26 June 2010, 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wepl

what are these two boards?

Toccata and Ariadne II I think.

piemmeweb · 13 July 2010, 12:16

Finally I found the solution!

What's a strange solution...

In few words:

Power up the machine
Start up the GENESIS TCP/IP stack
Connect to lan
Disconnect from lan
Close GENESIS TCP/IP

And all WHDLOAD games works fine!!!

What's the matter?

Thank you for your help!!!

Wepl · 13 July 2010, 21:44

it's the network card

StrategyGamer · 14 July 2010, 00:12

What can a network card do to break WHDload?

Do all Ethernet cards break WHDload?

Bamiga2002 · 14 July 2010, 06:35

I think so. The tcp/ip stack creates interrupts that interfere with WHDLoad. Remember: with WHDLoad always disable any USB & tcp/ip stack before running it.

piemmeweb · 14 July 2010, 07:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bamiga2002

I think so. The tcp/ip stack creates interrupts that interfere with WHDLoad. Remember: with WHDLoad always disable any USB & tcp/ip stack before running it.

I'm not sure:
On my amiga 4000 I seen that WHDLoad works only when my network card's COLLISION led is on , I can do it connecting and disconnecting to/from my lan.

Also I tried to play Pinball Fantasies with TCP/IP stack enabled and connected... absolutely no problems!!!

Anybody have ariadne network card and experiencing problems with WHDload?

StingRay · 14 July 2010, 09:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by piemmeweb

Anybody have ariadne network card and experiencing problems with WHDload?

I am using an Ariadne II in my A4000 and I have no problems with WHDLoad as long as no TCP/IP stack is running. Which is why I wrote this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingRay

You have a network card, do you have any TCP/IP stack running (Miami or Genesis f.e.), if so, turn it off before starting a WHDLoad game.

(Check page 1 of this very thread)

spudje · 19 July 2015, 14:01

Never mind...

Stupid me didn't un-comment the startup & clean script execution in WHDLoad.prefs :/

So, no issues with my setup:
A3000D with Cybervision 64, Highway USB, FastATA4000 and Ariadne II

19 July 2015, 14:01	#57
spudje Registered User Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,406	Never mind... Stupid me didn't un-comment the startup & clean script execution in WHDLoad.prefs :/ So, no issues with my setup: A3000D with Cybervision 64, Highway USB, FastATA4000 and Ariadne II Last edited by spudje; 19 July 2015 at 15:23.

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25 June 2010, 14:01	#42
whiteb Fanatically Amiga. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 54 Posts: 1,557	I wonder if this is just Heat related ? The A4000 already has a lack of Airflow, but having an 060 (MK 1), and a couple of extra cards in there, and it crashes after minutes of game time (Not while booting). Something is overheating and causing the crash. Does the 060 have heatsink/fan ?

25 June 2010, 15:45	#43
kipper2k Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Thunder Bay, Canada Posts: 4,323	it seems to be a hardware issue, Comparing this to the Xbox 360, the 360 freezes once the temp of the grfx chip gets a little too toasty (Latest figures are reporting a 54% failure rate of the 360s btw), A simple test would be to open the cover, get a big fan and blow air in to see if it changes anything. It will take 5 minutes of your time to try

25 June 2010, 16:12	#44
piemmeweb Commodore Lover Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 128	I don't think tha't a hoverhet problem, my amiga4000 already have additional fans inside, also only game freeze if I click F10 or PrnSc the os works well The last strange things: If I install a different version of whdload, all works fine but after reboot nothing works. Example: 1)Version 16.9 doesn't works 2)I remove 16.9 and install 16.5 , game works fine 3)I hard reboot the machine and try again , game freezes 4)I remove 16.5 and install 16.6, game works fine 5)Hard reboot again and freezes 6)Remove old and install 15,0 , game works I'm thinking: is the startup-sequence the problem???

25 June 2010, 17:39	#45
Galahad/FLT Going nowhere Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: United Kingdom Age: 50 Posts: 8,986	Someone else had a problem like this. Bootup with no startup-sequence, chances are there is something in there that boots before WHDLoad that is screwing it up.

25 June 2010, 18:12	#47
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Hold both mouse buttons down when you switch the computer on and select Boot With No Startup-Sequence from the menu.

25 June 2010, 18:12	#48
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	You search EAB to find out

13 July 2010, 12:16	#51
piemmeweb Commodore Lover Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Italy Age: 48 Posts: 128	Finally I found the solution! What's a strange solution... In few words: Power up the machine Start up the GENESIS TCP/IP stack Connect to lan Disconnect from lan Close GENESIS TCP/IP And all WHDLOAD games works fine!!! What's the matter? Thank you for your help!!!

13 July 2010, 21:44	#52
Wepl Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 866	it's the network card

14 July 2010, 00:12	#53
StrategyGamer Total Chaos AGA is fun! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: USA Posts: 873	What can a network card do to break WHDload? Do all Ethernet cards break WHDload?

14 July 2010, 06:35	#54
Bamiga2002 BlizzardPPC'less Join Date: May 2004 Location: Finland Age: 46 Posts: 3,210	I think so. The tcp/ip stack creates interrupts that interfere with WHDLoad. Remember: with WHDLoad always disable any USB & tcp/ip stack before running it.

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