Installing hired guns

aohovland · 02 December 2009, 22:51

I have tried to install Hired Guns two times on my hard drive and both times I get error message when I start the game
one error say: could not get lock on to file
the other says bad load.

any clues?

TCD · 02 December 2009, 22:58

A few more information won't hurt

WHDLoad or its own installer? What Amiga model do you have?

aohovland · 02 December 2009, 23:01

I'm using the install file on the disk.<br />
<br />
A1200 2mb chip 4 mb fast ram<br />
some kind of accelerator card which I don't remember the name of<br />
cf 4gb card

also tried to manually copy the game into the harddrive, and assign into the user startup. But after choosing language it automatically wants floppy drive

TCD · 02 December 2009, 23:23

Just installed it here using the '+11 MST' version and it works fine (using WinUAE that is). Not sure what causes the error on your side

Predseda · 03 December 2009, 08:27

I think probably bad floppy or corrupted file.

waal · 03 December 2009, 11:35

Maybe you should try to get this version from TOSEC:
Hired Guns v1.08 rev39.25 (1993)(Psygnosis)(M5)[t +11 MST](Disk 1 of 5)[f Bowen].zip (100% crack)

mai · 28 January 2010, 12:46

The TOSEC sets are really confusing and a nightmate too.
It seems some cracked sets dont like the original HD install, because a fix by "ATX" has been released in those days.
If you use this fixed disks, the install should work with cracked disks.
Tell me, if you still need a solution, then i could upload the fixed sets, you need fixed disk 1 and 3(install script).
If i have investigated right, there are two different cracks available, first one by the "Loons" and one by "Saito"
The 6 disk set by "Loons" is not really needed, because there exists 5 disk sets(cr Loons) too.

aohovland · 06 February 2010, 12:13

I'm sorry for a really late answer. I have been busy working.
Hired Guns v1.08 rev39.25 (1993)(Psygnosis)(M5)[t +11 MST](Disk 1 of 5)[f Bowen].zip (100% crack)
This worked perfectly, I tried it just now and the game started up perfect.

thx for the help guys

brett71 · 22 August 2012, 04:50

I have downloaded the Bowen-fixed version of this and installed it to hard drive on a PAL A500 with 0.5MB chip/8.5MB Fast and also on an NTSC A3000D with 2MB chip/16MB fast.

In both cases, when I try to run the game, I get a requester that says:

C/SystemTakeover
Program failed (error #80000004)
Wait for disk activity to finish
Suspend Reboot

What is causing this and how do I fix it?

brett71 · 22 August 2012, 05:09

OK, found my own answer...but now need help from the coding wizards out there:

According to this thread:
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=hired

The program is crashing because the Menu.exe program (the trainer) ran before the main program when booting from disk is apparently patching something in memory and if it's not run first, the game crashes. This is especially problematic when trying to run the game from hard disk. The HD installer does not copy this (obviously).

Could this game be updated by someone to:

1. Include the Menu.exe program when installing to HD
2. Either re-link the game icon to a script that runs Menu.exe and then the main game executable or somehow integrate the menu.exe program and main game executable somehow. I don't know if the second of these is possible, but it seems like it should be since I've seen so many full-disk games turned into single files, plus it would address item 1. But I'm not a programmer so maybe it isn't so easy.

Even so, the game won't run on my A500 since it only has 0.5MB chip, and it won't run on my 3000 because I've got a Cybervision 64 card in there, so the screen that Menu.exe opens is not visible and also seems to freeze the machine because my mouse stops working. I've tried using ModePro to see if I can mode-promote the screen Menu.exe opens, but that fails miserably. However, if I manually set the system to a PAL screenmode and run the program, it works. Obviously another downside to an RTG graphics card.

Summary.....I'm screwed. :P

02 December 2009, 22:51	#1
aohovland Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norway Age: 46 Posts: 19	Installing hired guns I have tried to install Hired Guns two times on my hard drive and both times I get error message when I start the game one error say: could not get lock on to file the other says bad load. any clues?

28 January 2010, 12:46	#7
mai Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Federativnaya Respublika Germaniya Posts: 4,994	The TOSEC sets are really confusing and a nightmate too. It seems some cracked sets dont like the original HD install, because a fix by "ATX" has been released in those days. If you use this fixed disks, the install should work with cracked disks. Tell me, if you still need a solution, then i could upload the fixed sets, you need fixed disk 1 and 3(install script). If i have investigated right, there are two different cracks available, first one by the "Loons" and one by "Saito" The 6 disk set by "Loons" is not really needed, because there exists 5 disk sets(cr Loons) too. Last edited by mai; 28 January 2010 at 12:57.

22 August 2012, 05:09	#10
brett71 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ames, IA, USA Posts: 521	OK, found my own answer...but now need help from the coding wizards out there: According to this thread: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?...ighlight=hired The program is crashing because the Menu.exe program (the trainer) ran before the main program when booting from disk is apparently patching something in memory and if it's not run first, the game crashes. This is especially problematic when trying to run the game from hard disk. The HD installer does not copy this (obviously). Could this game be updated by someone to: 1. Include the Menu.exe program when installing to HD 2. Either re-link the game icon to a script that runs Menu.exe and then the main game executable or somehow integrate the menu.exe program and main game executable somehow. I don't know if the second of these is possible, but it seems like it should be since I've seen so many full-disk games turned into single files, plus it would address item 1. But I'm not a programmer so maybe it isn't so easy. Even so, the game won't run on my A500 since it only has 0.5MB chip, and it won't run on my 3000 because I've got a Cybervision 64 card in there, so the screen that Menu.exe opens is not visible and also seems to freeze the machine because my mouse stops working. I've tried using ModePro to see if I can mode-promote the screen Menu.exe opens, but that fails miserably. However, if I manually set the system to a PAL screenmode and run the program, it works. Obviously another downside to an RTG graphics card. Summary.....I'm screwed. :P Last edited by brett71; 22 August 2012 at 05:31.

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02 December 2009, 22:58	#2
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,530	A few more information won't hurt WHDLoad or its own installer? What Amiga model do you have?

02 December 2009, 23:01	#3
aohovland Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norway Age: 46 Posts: 19	I'm using the install file on the disk.<br /> <br /> A1200 2mb chip 4 mb fast ram<br /> some kind of accelerator card which I don't remember the name of<br /> cf 4gb card also tried to manually copy the game into the harddrive, and assign into the user startup. But after choosing language it automatically wants floppy drive

02 December 2009, 23:23	#4
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,530	Just installed it here using the '+11 MST' version and it works fine (using WinUAE that is). Not sure what causes the error on your side

03 December 2009, 08:27	#5
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,540	I think probably bad floppy or corrupted file.

03 December 2009, 11:35	#6
waal Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Paris / France Age: 48 Posts: 137	Maybe you should try to get this version from TOSEC: Hired Guns v1.08 rev39.25 (1993)(Psygnosis)(M5)[t +11 MST](Disk 1 of 5)[f Bowen].zip (100% crack)

06 February 2010, 12:13	#8
aohovland Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Norway Age: 46 Posts: 19	I'm sorry for a really late answer. I have been busy working. Hired Guns v1.08 rev39.25 (1993)(Psygnosis)(M5)[t +11 MST](Disk 1 of 5)[f Bowen].zip (100% crack) This worked perfectly, I tried it just now and the game started up perfect. thx for the help guys

22 August 2012, 04:50	#9
brett71 Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: Ames, IA, USA Posts: 521	I have downloaded the Bowen-fixed version of this and installed it to hard drive on a PAL A500 with 0.5MB chip/8.5MB Fast and also on an NTSC A3000D with 2MB chip/16MB fast. In both cases, when I try to run the game, I get a requester that says: C/SystemTakeover Program failed (error #80000004) Wait for disk activity to finish Suspend Reboot What is causing this and how do I fix it?

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