Bridgeboard emulation (x86 CPU, for example A2286) - Page 12

AnnaWu · 22 August 2015, 18:41

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I added HD type #2 and 30M HDF (without setting manual geometry), partitioned and formatted manually (fdisk + format + sys), boots fine.

This must be some DOS/Bridgeboard BIOS weirdness because IDE log messages look normal.

Is it possible to upload your config, flash and hard disk file for a double check?

Toni Wilen · 22 August 2015, 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaWu

Is it possible to upload your config, flash and hard disk file for a double check?

No

but just create HDF with size=30M and don't touch manual geometry and set bios HD to type #2. Everything else seems to be mostly same in your config.

It can be also DOS version difference. I used 3.20 because it was already used in other configs

AnnaWu · 22 August 2015, 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

No

but just create HDF with size=30M and don't touch manual geometry and set bios HD to type #2. Everything else seems to be mostly same in your config.

It can be also DOS version difference. I used 3.20 because it was already used in other configs

Strange, still not bootable (MS-DOS 6.22)
30MB HDF created
Manual geometry disabled
Hard disk image partitioned and formatted (format c: /S
BIOS Setup: Hard Disk 0 > Type 2 (20MB instead of 30MB for the hard disk image?)

Do you use KS/WB 1.3 and Janus 2.1?

If I have time I will check another DOS version (3.20)

Amiga_CDTV · 22 August 2015, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Amiga_CDTV

I am using the Janus install disk 2.1 (from http://amiga.resource.cx). The installer creates the autoboot file (no need to run makeab manually), but what else do I need to do to actually use it? If I boot from the DOS floppy (the one in the Zone) and run fdisk, it doesn't detect any disks. The 2088XT manual says PCDisk should be run first in order to use autoboot file, but the 2.1 disk doesn't have it.

I am sorry to keep asking this, but I still can't manage to get this working. I have a vanilla WB3.1 install within a A3000 setup (both in real life and in WinUAE) with A2088XT. I can create hardfile (either with the setup or the makeab) file, it shows correctly in the aboot.ctrl -file, but the DOS 3.2's FDISK can't see it. This shouldn't be this complicated, but why can't I get it working? Do I need to do something more to attach it?

The CBM manual for Janus mentions PCDisk, but I am beginning to believe that to be something related only to earlier Janus versions as the 2.1 install disk doesn't have it.

Toni Wilen · 22 August 2015, 20:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaWu

Strange, still not bootable (MS-DOS 6.22)

winuae.7z updated which fixes 6.22 (possible some earlier dos versions too) "long" IDE writes while formatting. Writing also must not clear DRQ bit between sectors. (Why does it do that? Stupid BIOS code)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amiga_CDTV

The CBM manual for Janus mentions PCDisk, but I am beginning to believe that to be something related only to earlier Janus versions as the 2.1 install disk doesn't have it.

I don't know.

rbm · 22 August 2015, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

winuae.7z updated which fixes 6.22 (possible some earlier dos versions too) "long" IDE writes while formatting. Writing also must not clear DRQ bit between sectors. (Why does it do that? Stupid BIOS code)

I don't know.

Confirmed. Now boot also with the Windows 95 dos.

AMIGASYSTEM · 22 August 2015, 23:48

Thanks Toni with the new update "winuae.7z" I installed MS-DOS 6.22 in Italian without problems sull'HardFile 30MB. Your recent recommendations and some attached picture they have clarified a little 'ideas.

AnnaWu · 23 August 2015, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

winuae.7z updated which fixes 6.22 (possible some earlier dos versions too) "long" IDE writes while formatting. Writing also must not clear DRQ bit between sectors. (Why does it do that? Stupid BIOS code)

I don't know.

Very excellent job, Toni.

My hard disk image (MS-DOS 6.22) is now bootable.

Created HDF file (Boot-Test)
30MB Type #2 > 20MB OK
40MB Type #3 > 30MB OK
50MB Type #14 > 42MB OK
70MB Type #4 > 62MB OK
...

AMIGASYSTEM · 23 August 2015, 13:14

If you can help someone I made a video that shows the steps for conigurazione x86 Emulation Bridgeboard A2286 of course everything can be improved! thanks Toni

[ Show youtube player ]

Toni Wilen · 23 August 2015, 13:23

One more winuae.7z update: x86 CPU speed adjustment in CPU panel (leftmost position equals m68k "fastest possible" mode).

NOTE: Odd things can happen, BIOS has too many CPU delay loops, I added some hacks (especially in fastest possible mode) that should prevent most of them happening. Also fast mode is always force-disabled during early BIOS diagnostics because too fast CPU will break some tests..

Bridgeboard stuff is now mostly finished for 3.2. A2386SX won't get any fixes until someone finds some ideas for "invalid configuration" error. (A2386SX is very different, it has "real" off the self integrated AT chipset)

B14ck W01f · 23 August 2015, 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

If you can help someone I made a video that shows the steps for conigurazione x86 Emulation Bridgeboard A2286 of course everything can be improved! thanks Toni

[ Show youtube player ]

As a person who never tried WinUAE's bridgeboard emulation, I can't believe I gave themamboman the right instructions.

Arnie · 23 August 2015, 17:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

If you can help someone I made a video that shows the steps for conigurazione x86 Emulation Bridgeboard A2286 of course everything can be improved! thanks Toni

[ Show youtube player ]

Thanks for the video. Just a point to remember for anyone following it, don't forget the .nvr file.

AnnaWu · 23 August 2015, 18:19

I will try now the function of the Bridgeboard VGA (x86) expansion.

rbm · 23 August 2015, 21:34

This is a set of 48x48 dual png icons for the pc bridgeboard tools. The old ones looks very ugly on a modern desktop !

Maybe is not the correct thread to post it, but here they go.

rbm · 23 August 2015, 22:25

Another set of 32 bit dual PNG icons.

AMIGASYSTEM · 24 August 2015, 00:41

Thanks rbm, added new icons in my system OS3 dedicated PC emulation, completed the set with some icon found in the depths of my Hardisk.

Arnie · 24 August 2015, 02:19

@rbm

I can't get the icons to display using OS3.5/3.9. (also tried CWB versions) Do I need something specific for this WB?

rbm · 24 August 2015, 06:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

@rbm

I can't get the icons to display using OS3.5/3.9. (also tried CWB versions) Do I need something specific for this WB?

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=66213

Arnie · 24 August 2015, 08:00

Thanks

AMIGASYSTEM · 26 August 2015, 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaWu

I will try now the function of the Bridgeboard VGA (x86) expansion.

Found

22 August 2015, 23:48	#227
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Thanks Toni with the new update "winuae.7z" I installed MS-DOS 6.22 in Italian without problems sull'HardFile 30MB. Your recent recommendations and some attached picture they have clarified a little 'ideas. Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 04 March 2016 at 15:47.

24 August 2015, 00:41	#236
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Thanks rbm, added new icons in my system OS3 dedicated PC emulation, completed the set with some icon found in the depths of my Hardisk. Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 06 September 2016 at 15:34.

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