Please stop prune on off topic

Anubis · 31 August 2018, 23:25

It is really not funny that stuff gets removed and you actually promote spamming just in order to keep topic afloat.

Is space really that expensive now???

plasmab · 31 August 2018, 23:29

+1

I'm getting tired of being unable to respond to comments when mods decide they're off topic. Considering no longer bothering to participate.. perhaps go over to exxosuk's forum.

DamienD · 31 August 2018, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anubis

It is really not funny that stuff gets removed and you actually promote spamming just in order to keep topic afloat.

Is space really that expensive now???

What exactly are you talking about Anubis; examples please?

DamienD · 01 September 2018, 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

+1
I'm getting tired of being unable to respond to comments when mods decide they're off topic. Considering no longer bothering to participate.. perhaps go over to exxosuk's forum.

plasmab; I assume your post is in relation to my comments in the Estimation on size of the Amiga scene thread?

I really hate having to repeat myself but it seems necessary in this case since you've brought it up again...

My comments weren't directed at you specifically, but everyone that kept banging on about hardware only (plus desired wish lists) and turning the thread in that direction.

As I said last night, these comments were "off topic" in relation to mcgeezer's thread / question about the "Estimation on size of the Amiga scene" in regards to what he meant i.e:

... 1st post
... Follow-up explanation

grelbfarlk · 01 September 2018, 04:50

I think wherever the discussion goes, it goes. But when a thread gets derailed, it's kind of important that people counter stupid or wrong points when they come up. Otherwise people come back to the same thread later and see uncontested points that may be incorrect or misleading.

I don't have a solution to this other than like me in this thread they delete their posts that went off topic, which is also stupid because now you see people quoting me and not my original posts.

Or just pay attention to the OP and don't go off topic, like I did.

Anubis · 01 September 2018, 17:54

I don't care about topics being moved to off topic, what really pisses me off is when topic gets deleted after for example 2 months of no activity.

Other day wanted to post something in topic about tv series... and it's not there anymore.

plasmab · 01 September 2018, 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anubis

I don't care about topics being moved to off topic, what really pisses me off is when topic gets deleted after for example 2 months of no activity.

Other day wanted to post something in topic about tv series... and it's not there anymore.

+1 I dont mind things getting moved to their own topic. I'm absolutely cool with that.

ross · 01 September 2018, 18:19

I would not disturb your meeting, but you are talking about two completely different things.
Anubis about the OffTopic section general rules.
plasmab about off topic derail on standard thread.

Sorry for the OT

meynaf · 01 September 2018, 18:28

This forum is about Amiga, it's not social network.
That threads in OT area are pruned is perfectly fine for me. If it annoys you... don't post there.
(Of course, same for topic derail. Perfectly ok for me.)

plasmab · 01 September 2018, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

This forum is about Amiga, it's not social network.
That threads in OT area are pruned is perfectly fine for me. If it annoys you... don't post there.
(Of course, same for topic derail. Perfectly ok for me.)

Things can drift off topic... then randomly a mod decides when things go off topic. Either enforce the rules or dont. It seems to be very selective about when and who gets pruned.

meynaf · 01 September 2018, 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by plasmab

Things can drift off topic... then randomly a mod decides when things go off topic. Either enforce the rules or dont. It seems to be very selective about when and who gets pruned.

Perhaps they emit warnings before pruning anything.

Anubis · 02 September 2018, 18:37

There is just no simple reason they can't stack and be there, so if you look for somehting, it is still there...

It just does not help with my senility... looking for stuff I know was there... and poof it's not there anymore...

Ian · 02 September 2018, 19:01

The rules were brought in when it became a bit of a joke, to be honest I was probably as much a culpret as anyone else in the early years. I don't really have a problem with it these days.

I would suggest if a thread hasn't had a post in 2 months, no one really cares about it so why just keep it for posperity? It's adding no value, no one is particiapating.

Maybe we can ask RCK to increase the time limit on the sections of OT that won't just contain "funny" posts to 6 months, the same as the technical forum, but you will see across the internet on special interest boards such as these, off topic is not kept indefinately.

As for Plasmab complaint, I don't think anyone really cares if something goes off topic, but when the discussion goes down the path of several other threads already going on the subject, it does need management.

Personally I am a fan of the spliting of the topic when it gets so far off topic as the thread in question did, but many people won't like that either. Of course you are entirely free to create a thread yourself on the very subject that has arisen and continue to discuss it while on topic to your hearts content.

Every thread that starts about apples, cannot end being about potatoes.

Anubis · 03 September 2018, 04:52

Ian,

Most forums have general discussion forums, and they don't prune topics of those. Name itself is kind of wrong here... We should have trash sub forum where colored accounts would place appropriate discussions, but not everything in what we on eab call off topic is junk by default...

Gerry · 03 September 2018, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

I would suggest if a thread hasn't had a post in 2 months, no one really cares about it so why just keep it for posperity? It's adding no value, no one is particiapating.

I agree if you are talking about threads which contain only the initial thread and no answers.

All other threads IMHO are worth keeping - even if there hadn't been a post in two months. They often contain valuable information which otherwise would be lost.

Daedalus · 18 September 2018, 14:33

*Thread moved to Off-topic*

desiv · 18 September 2018, 17:13

Just my generic $0.000002.
I generally really enjoy the fact that these forums are moderated actively.
I have been on plenty of forums with no (or virtually none) moderation and those generally become a pain...

Not saying our mods are perfect, but I really appreciate a well moderated forum.

Thanx!

desiv

DH · 18 September 2018, 17:52

IIRC, if a thread is so important and is generally worth keeping, it can be stickied, which prevents the pruning of that thread.

I'm not 100% sure though, but I do believe this is the case. however, this is something for the GM's to decide on and to discuss with the O/P.

DamienD · 18 September 2018, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by DH

IIRC, if a thread is so important and is generally worth keeping, it can be stickied, which prevents the pruning of that thread.

Shhhhh DH; don't tell my friend Anubutt this... next thing he'll be asking for all OT threads to be made sticky

Anubis · 19 September 2018, 16:03

Shit will get / already is sticky....

Just stop prune and create trash for off topic area. General discussion not game related is not off topic by default.

31 August 2018, 23:25	#1
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	Please stop prune on off topic It is really not funny that stuff gets removed and you actually promote spamming just in order to keep topic afloat. Is space really that expensive now???

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31 August 2018, 23:29	#2
plasmab Banned Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: UK Posts: 2,917	+1 I'm getting tired of being unable to respond to comments when mods decide they're off topic. Considering no longer bothering to participate.. perhaps go over to exxosuk's forum.

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grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	I think wherever the discussion goes, it goes. But when a thread gets derailed, it's kind of important that people counter stupid or wrong points when they come up. Otherwise people come back to the same thread later and see uncontested points that may be incorrect or misleading. I don't have a solution to this other than like me in this thread they delete their posts that went off topic, which is also stupid because now you see people quoting me and not my original posts. Or just pay attention to the OP and don't go off topic, like I did.

01 September 2018, 17:54	#6
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	I don't care about topics being moved to off topic, what really pisses me off is when topic gets deleted after for example 2 months of no activity. Other day wanted to post something in topic about tv series... and it's not there anymore.

01 September 2018, 18:19	#8
ross Defendit numerus Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Crossing the Rubicon Age: 53 Posts: 4,468	I would not disturb your meeting, but you are talking about two completely different things. Anubis about the OffTopic section general rules. plasmab about off topic derail on standard thread. Sorry for the OT

01 September 2018, 18:28	#9
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	This forum is about Amiga, it's not social network. That threads in OT area are pruned is perfectly fine for me. If it annoys you... don't post there. (Of course, same for topic derail. Perfectly ok for me.)

02 September 2018, 18:37	#12
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	There is just no simple reason they can't stack and be there, so if you look for somehting, it is still there... It just does not help with my senility... looking for stuff I know was there... and poof it's not there anymore...

02 September 2018, 19:01	#13
Ian Global Moderator Join Date: May 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 46 Posts: 2,287	The rules were brought in when it became a bit of a joke, to be honest I was probably as much a culpret as anyone else in the early years. I don't really have a problem with it these days. I would suggest if a thread hasn't had a post in 2 months, no one really cares about it so why just keep it for posperity? It's adding no value, no one is particiapating. Maybe we can ask RCK to increase the time limit on the sections of OT that won't just contain "funny" posts to 6 months, the same as the technical forum, but you will see across the internet on special interest boards such as these, off topic is not kept indefinately. As for Plasmab complaint, I don't think anyone really cares if something goes off topic, but when the discussion goes down the path of several other threads already going on the subject, it does need management. Personally I am a fan of the spliting of the topic when it gets so far off topic as the thread in question did, but many people won't like that either. Of course you are entirely free to create a thread yourself on the very subject that has arisen and continue to discuss it while on topic to your hearts content. Every thread that starts about apples, cannot end being about potatoes.

03 September 2018, 04:52	#14
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	Ian, Most forums have general discussion forums, and they don't prune topics of those. Name itself is kind of wrong here... We should have trash sub forum where colored accounts would place appropriate discussions, but not everything in what we on eab call off topic is junk by default...

18 September 2018, 14:33	#16
Daedalus Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Dublin, then Glasgow Posts: 6,334	Thread moved to Off-topic

18 September 2018, 17:13	#17
desiv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 1,767	Just my generic $0.000002. I generally really enjoy the fact that these forums are moderated actively. I have been on plenty of forums with no (or virtually none) moderation and those generally become a pain... Not saying our mods are perfect, but I really appreciate a well moderated forum. Thanx! desiv

18 September 2018, 17:52	#18
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	IIRC, if a thread is so important and is generally worth keeping, it can be stickied, which prevents the pruning of that thread. I'm not 100% sure though, but I do believe this is the case. however, this is something for the GM's to decide on and to discuss with the O/P.

19 September 2018, 16:03	#20
Anubis Retro Gamer Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Underworld Age: 51 Posts: 4,058	Shit will get / already is sticky.... Just stop prune and create trash for off topic area. General discussion not game related is not off topic by default.

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