what could be signal for you to buy the new amiga?

turrican3 · 16 May 2007, 00:05

1 don't need a signal, i'll buy anyway.
2 I don't want to buy by internet it must hit the shelves.
3 A great launch Publicity.
4 The os4.0 or better.
5 The support of some game designers (team17,psygnosis,...).
6 Before it must have firefox,openoffice and some kind of program

Coagulus · 16 May 2007, 00:08

3,4 and 5 would be a must for me. 6 would come eventually once decent development environments and libraries were available I'm sure.

Graham Humphrey · 16 May 2007, 00:16

When hell freezes over.

killergorilla · 16 May 2007, 00:16

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease stop this.

The Amiga is dead as a platform for anything other than hobbyists. Why can't the hobbyists just accept that and stop making silly fools of themselves!?!

turrican3 · 16 May 2007, 00:17

I think for me i just need a great publicity.

Graham Humphrey · 16 May 2007, 00:20

But why on Earth would anyone buy it over a PC (because that's what it's going to compete with)? Underpowered and lacking in software support with an OS that's realistically ten years too late. With the greatest will in the world I just cannot see how this is going to succeed.

And anyway, the thing's got to be released first...

Coagulus · 16 May 2007, 00:21

I was speaking hypothetically. I don't actually believe that 3-5 will actually happen!

turrican3 · 16 May 2007, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by killergorilla

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease stop this.

The Amiga is dead as a platform for anything other than hobbyists. Why can't the hobbyists just accept that and stop making silly fools of themselves!?!

Because i like the amiga and if there is a chance for the amiga to comeback i'll be there.
But i understand you, you want to say that the amiga spirit is dead with commodore in 1994.
But me i think that the amiga spirit is a part of the users and programmers who i'm sure sure of it will comeback if they can don't loose money.
Perhaps i'm crazy,i don't know, i hope that i'm not the last crazy man on earth.(hyperion are crazy too then)
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease let the others who want believe in the amiga comeback.

turrican3 · 16 May 2007, 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

But why on Earth would anyone buy it over a PC (because that's what it's going to compete with)? Underpowered and lacking in software support with an OS that's realistically ten years too late. With the greatest will in the world I just cannot see how this is going to succeed.

And anyway, the thing's got to be released first...

I'm okay with you but why amiga inc continue to believe in it, why hyperion continue too, where come from the amiga inc money ? investors?
I told that because they buy an indian company if there is no chance they are all crazy then?

spiff · 16 May 2007, 00:36

Well, if Crysis only would run on OS4 I'd probably buy one.

Os4beta... umfinal soon.. Let's just call it OSX, will prol sell better.

Muzkat · 16 May 2007, 00:42

The signals for me:

When Amiga offer me a machine that is as fast and as powerful as a modern day PC. I don't believe in buying another machine which is heaps slower then my Pentium rig.

It should have a user friendly operating system that is similar but different to Windows, and good security and internet features.

But, it all should be cheaper, and this would also attract my patronage.

These threads may be flights of fancy, but I don't think people who create these threads, or who believe that the Amiga can be resurrected, should be criticised.

seuden · 16 May 2007, 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiff

Well, if Crysis only would run on OS4 I'd probably buy one.

Absolutely, cant wait for Crysis. *goes back to cm93*

Marcuz · 16 May 2007, 01:01

while personally i think the matter of this thread is practically unrelevant, as what we may want about new amiga will unlikely happen ever, i would like to point that this is yet another thread we could live without.

Don't take me badly: how many there are exactly on this subject active in the last month? "what you would a new amiga to be like" "new amiga on the horizon" etc etc...

as they basically are fights between 2 diametrically opposed points of view, each very determined, so to speak, not to concede the slightest, my point is that these threads are fryed air. big and unuseful IFs just for the debatable fun of fight.

my 2 cents

turrican3 · 16 May 2007, 01:12

Sorry Marco,
I just wanted to know what the amigans waiting for believing in it again,
i will try to don't make threads which can create polemic anymore.
Sorry

Konrad · 16 May 2007, 02:24

For working and gaming you have powerful pcs (PC/MAC). If you're just interested in gaming you have powerful consoles (XBOX360, PS3, Wii).
So what makes you think that a new Amiga with lowspec components could be a success ? Just because it's called Amiga ? Please...
The "new Amiga" you put your hopes doesn't even have anything in common with the classic Amigas, except the name of course.

The Amiga-Comeback you hope for will NEVER happen ! And if you look at it realistic you will find NO argument for chances on the mass-market.

16 May 2007, 05:09

Well I for one are glad to see there is still bullshit cascading out of the mouths of Amiga Inc.. and imo it's a lot better then absolutely nothing at all

Don't forget Turrican3 that the majority of users on this board would love for the "BIG COMEBACK(tm)" to happen, however the cold, harsh reality seems to take precedence over the flights of fantasy (no pun intended

)

Personally, I agree with Coagulus.. 3,4 & 5.
Neway we'll see what emerges..

X-ray · 16 May 2007, 08:58

Look, the Amiga will never compete with today's PCs and MACs. That's a fact. They've been out of it too long and they wouldn't be able to produce hardware and an OS that could run the range of software that I use.

However...if they got together with some game publishers and produced a machine that could run games of the same type as we were used to in the old days, but slightly better spec (in terms of gfx and sound) then I would be interested.
But it would have to be backwards compatible so I could ditch my A4000T. Maybe it would have a Minimig-type daughter board with an 030 and 16mb RAM for those classic games.
I guess what I would go for is a machine that could give us games like UFO, Worms, Wings etc. That's the flavour I would be going for. Fancy FPS and online multiplayer games are for PCs. Amiga won't do those better.
But yes, make a new Worms, Wings II, Superfrog II etc and the people will buy those machines because all Amiga has to trade on is nostalgia and the 'classic' feel of the games. It probably wouldn't take much to update many of our favourite games and add levels/gameplay to them.

musashi5150 · 16 May 2007, 09:41

I agree with kg completely. But I'm happy you other guys have your opinions - they are just as valid as ours. It'd be a boring place if we all agreed with each other now wouldn't it?

I couldn't take part in your poll though as there wasn't an option for me.

killergorilla · 16 May 2007, 10:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by turrican3

Because i like the amiga and if there is a chance for the amiga to comeback i'll be there.
But i understand you, you want to say that the amiga spirit is dead with commodore in 1994.
But me i think that the amiga spirit is a part of the users and programmers who i'm sure sure of it will comeback if they can don't loose money.
Perhaps i'm crazy,i don't know, i hope that i'm not the last crazy man on earth.(hyperion are crazy too then)
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease let the others who want believe in the amiga comeback.

I don't think the spirit is dead. Us idiots on EAB make sure it's not

It's not coming back though. It's just hanging around.

blade002 · 16 May 2007, 10:19

Sigh

View Poll Results: What could be the signal for you to buy the new amiga ?
don't need a signal, i'll buy anyway.	7	9.21%
I don't want to buy by internet it must hit the shelves.	4	5.26%
A great launch Publicity.	2	2.63%
The os4.0 or better.	6	7.89%
The support of some game designers (team17,psygnosis,...).	17	22.37%
Before it must have firefox,openoffice and some kind of program	10	13.16%
Nothing.	30	39.47%
Voters: 76. You may not vote on this poll

16 May 2007, 00:05	#1
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	what could be signal for you to buy the new amiga? 1 don't need a signal, i'll buy anyway. 2 I don't want to buy by internet it must hit the shelves. 3 A great launch Publicity. 4 The os4.0 or better. 5 The support of some game designers (team17,psygnosis,...). 6 Before it must have firefox,openoffice and some kind of program

16 May 2007, 01:12	#14
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	Sorry Marco, I just wanted to know what the amigans waiting for believing in it again, i will try to don't make threads which can create polemic anymore. Sorry Last edited by turrican3; 16 May 2007 at 01:31.

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16 May 2007, 00:08	#2
Coagulus Gets there in the end... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 863	3,4 and 5 would be a must for me. 6 would come eventually once decent development environments and libraries were available I'm sure.

16 May 2007, 00:16	#3
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	When hell freezes over.

16 May 2007, 00:16	#4
killergorilla Lesser Talent Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Age: 42 Posts: 7,957	Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease stop this. The Amiga is dead as a platform for anything other than hobbyists. Why can't the hobbyists just accept that and stop making silly fools of themselves!?!

16 May 2007, 00:17	#5
turrican3 Moon 1969 = amiga 1985 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: belgium Age: 48 Posts: 3,913	I think for me i just need a great publicity.

16 May 2007, 00:20	#6
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	But why on Earth would anyone buy it over a PC (because that's what it's going to compete with)? Underpowered and lacking in software support with an OS that's realistically ten years too late. With the greatest will in the world I just cannot see how this is going to succeed. And anyway, the thing's got to be released first...

16 May 2007, 00:21	#7
Coagulus Gets there in the end... Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wales Posts: 863	I was speaking hypothetically. I don't actually believe that 3-5 will actually happen!

16 May 2007, 00:36	#10
spiff Oh noes! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Neverland Posts: 766	Well, if Crysis only would run on OS4 I'd probably buy one. Os4beta... umfinal soon.. Let's just call it OSX, will prol sell better.

16 May 2007, 00:42	#11
Muzkat Into the Wonderful Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Earthrealm Age: 42 Posts: 1,429	The signals for me: When Amiga offer me a machine that is as fast and as powerful as a modern day PC. I don't believe in buying another machine which is heaps slower then my Pentium rig. It should have a user friendly operating system that is similar but different to Windows, and good security and internet features. But, it all should be cheaper, and this would also attract my patronage. These threads may be flights of fancy, but I don't think people who create these threads, or who believe that the Amiga can be resurrected, should be criticised.

16 May 2007, 01:01	#13
Marcuz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: . Age: 48 Posts: 5,562	while personally i think the matter of this thread is practically unrelevant, as what we may want about new amiga will unlikely happen ever, i would like to point that this is yet another thread we could live without. Don't take me badly: how many there are exactly on this subject active in the last month? "what you would a new amiga to be like" "new amiga on the horizon" etc etc... as they basically are fights between 2 diametrically opposed points of view, each very determined, so to speak, not to concede the slightest, my point is that these threads are fryed air. big and unuseful IFs just for the debatable fun of fight. my 2 cents

16 May 2007, 02:24	#15
Konrad Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Germany Age: 43 Posts: 742	For working and gaming you have powerful pcs (PC/MAC). If you're just interested in gaming you have powerful consoles (XBOX360, PS3, Wii). So what makes you think that a new Amiga with lowspec components could be a success ? Just because it's called Amiga ? Please... The "new Amiga" you put your hopes doesn't even have anything in common with the classic Amigas, except the name of course. The Amiga-Comeback you hope for will NEVER happen ! And if you look at it realistic you will find NO argument for chances on the mass-market.

16 May 2007, 05:09	#16
VermillioN Posts: n/a	Well I for one are glad to see there is still bullshit cascading out of the mouths of Amiga Inc.. and imo it's a lot better then absolutely nothing at all Don't forget Turrican3 that the majority of users on this board would love for the "BIG COMEBACK(tm)" to happen, however the cold, harsh reality seems to take precedence over the flights of fantasy (no pun intended ) Personally, I agree with Coagulus.. 3,4 & 5. Neway we'll see what emerges..

16 May 2007, 08:58	#17
X-ray Angry Kid Fan Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London Posts: 230	Look, the Amiga will never compete with today's PCs and MACs. That's a fact. They've been out of it too long and they wouldn't be able to produce hardware and an OS that could run the range of software that I use. However...if they got together with some game publishers and produced a machine that could run games of the same type as we were used to in the old days, but slightly better spec (in terms of gfx and sound) then I would be interested. But it would have to be backwards compatible so I could ditch my A4000T. Maybe it would have a Minimig-type daughter board with an 030 and 16mb RAM for those classic games. I guess what I would go for is a machine that could give us games like UFO, Worms, Wings etc. That's the flavour I would be going for. Fancy FPS and online multiplayer games are for PCs. Amiga won't do those better. But yes, make a new Worms, Wings II, Superfrog II etc and the people will buy those machines because all Amiga has to trade on is nostalgia and the 'classic' feel of the games. It probably wouldn't take much to update many of our favourite games and add levels/gameplay to them.

16 May 2007, 09:41	#18
musashi5150 move.w #$4489,$dff07e Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Norfolk, UK Age: 42 Posts: 2,351	I agree with kg completely. But I'm happy you other guys have your opinions - they are just as valid as ours. It'd be a boring place if we all agreed with each other now wouldn't it? I couldn't take part in your poll though as there wasn't an option for me.

16 May 2007, 10:19	#20
blade002 Zone Friend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia Age: 50 Posts: 2,616	Sigh

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