New floppies for TOSEC (probably)

Supamax · 27 March 2009, 22:02

Hi fellows,

I uploaded to The Zone my dump of F-16 Combat Pilot.

It's obtained from my real floppy. You can compare it with this one from TOSEC: F-16 Combat Pilot (1989)(Digital Integration).zip (it's the only one very similar to my dump).

I'm 100% sure of my dumps' quality, but, when compared, the two images have differences.

I wonder if my version is a slightly different one, or if it is ruined somehow. This would be very strange, since I have no physical errors on the real floppy. And I never overwrote it (saves, records, etc.).

Supamax · 27 March 2009, 22:12

Hi again,

I also uploaded my dump of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show - disk1.
There are only 32 bytes different from my dump and the one from TOSEC (Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show (1989)(MicroValue)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PNA].zip).
Among other differences, in my dump you can read (with a hex editor) "THE LEADERS" instead of "PARANOIMIA", and "ROBOCOP BBS SPREAD!" instead of "PARANOIMIA PRESENTS".
I suppose this is an italian BBS hack, so this could be effectively included in TOSEC as a different "version"

.

TCD · 27 March 2009, 22:16

Most likely this gets a '[h Leaders]' tag then

Supamax · 27 March 2009, 22:52

Another one in the Zone:

The Colony - disk2.

There are 224 bytes different from my dump and the one from TOSEC (Colony, The (1990)(Mindscape)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr OCL][a].zip).
This time the difference seems to be on an empty space of the disk.
Yet, which one is the unmodified dump: mine or TOSEC's ?

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 01:07

This one will be interesting for you, TCD and mai

.

I uploaded Dyter-07 - disk1 and disk2, cracked by Tristar.

Disk 2 is identical to Dyter-07 (1990)(reLINE)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr Tristar][h ACU - TFS] from TOSEC.
Disk 1 is unmodified and missing from TOSEC, because the only one in TOSEC (by Tristar) has the [v BGS9] tag. (virus?)

So my dumps will come in handy

.

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 02:00

Another one, absolutely missing from TOSEC:

Loom GERMAN, cracked by Vision Factory - disk1 and disk2.

Disk 3 is missing, unfortunately, because my third floppy has errors on some files

.
I tried all possible ways to recover it, but no luck.
I could upload the third disk with errors (extended adf); it would be better than nothing, I suppose...
Or perhaps some German mate reads this thread and finds it among his floppies, hopefully!

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 03:39

The last one for today:

I uploaded my dump of Circus Attractions - disk1, which is different from TOSEC's Circus Attractions (1989)(Rainbow Arts)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr VF].zip.
There is only a 9 bytes difference between them, in the bootblock.
What do these 9 bytes change?

Amiga1992 · 28 March 2009, 03:53

What does one care of a 9 byte difference? It could be anything, probably irrelevant.
This is why I always been against TOSEC, it just adds things which are mostly unnecesary. I could upload my disks and they will be different to any TOSEC but I don't believe they are worth anything.There's no "good dump"of pirated software, I believe.

Thank ze gods for the SPS!

TCD · 28 March 2009, 08:06

There are both good dumps and good cracks. The interesting thing is to find the combination of both

With a good crack you don't have the manual protection, which isn't a too bad thing. What TOSEC lacks is an indicator for which disks are complete (nothing removed) and playable till the end.

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

What does one care of a 9 byte difference? It could be anything, probably irrelevant.
This is why I always been against TOSEC, it just adds things which are mostly unnecesary. I could upload my disks and they will be different to any TOSEC but I don't believe they are worth anything.There's no "good dump"of pirated software, I believe.

You're right, Akira, but... since TOSEC exists, and since many differently cracked/hacked versions exists, why not uploading them if I found some new?

I do 100% agree with you in case of bad or oversized dumps ([b]/[o]), though.

That said, are my uploads appreciated? I have many more to come...

TCD · 28 March 2009, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

That said, are my uploads appreciated? I have many more to come...

Consider me your fan

Yes, your uploads are appreciated

I hope you find a new crack or maybe even a trainer one day

Edit : Just a thought Supamax

Maybe it's better just to name the TOSEC disk here, instead of uploading it to the zone. Almost all disks are available on both Magix sites and the once you don't find there you aren't allowed to upload here either

. So just tell us the name of the disk and we can grab them ourselves

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Edit : Just a thought Supamax

Maybe it's better just to name the TOSEC disk here, instead of uploading it to the zone. Almost all disks are available on both Magix sites and the once you don't find there you aren't allowed to upload here either

. So just tell us the name of the disk and we can grab them ourselves

You're right. I updated my posts and deleted the files from The Zone

Quote:

I hope you find a new crack or maybe even a trainer one day

What about Loom (GE)? Am I the first one to dump it? Do you know someone who could have the third floppy (without errors)?

TCD · 28 March 2009, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supamax

What about Loom (GE)? Am I the first one to dump it? Do you know someone who could have the third floppy (without errors)?

Hmm, it seems like you're the first one with these disks. Maybe mai knows something about it (and has the third disk)

Supamax · 28 March 2009, 19:46

Hi,

I uploaded to The Zone my dump of PaNorAmA Toolkit - 26 November 1986.

As usual, it's obtained from my real floppy.
I cannot find this release on Magix website, in the folder "TOSEC/Public Domain Collections".
It's not a "regular" release, with its release number. Perhaps it's another MIA (Missing In Action).

mai · 28 March 2009, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Hmm, it seems like you're the first one with these disks. Maybe mai knows something about it (and has the third disk)

Seems to be rare, never seen before.
@Supamax:
I think its not a big problem, if disk 3 is missing, in most cases you can use the disk 3 of a different crack, there are a few around(TRSi, Supreme, Coca Cola Crew).

TCD · 28 March 2009, 20:39

Are all three cracks German? I only know that the Cock-A-Cola one is German.

mai · 28 March 2009, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Are all three cracks German? I only know that the Cock-A-Cola one is German.

Yes, german versions.

TCD · 28 March 2009, 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

Yes, german versions.

*cough* Since the TRSI and Supreme versions are not in the latest TOSEC...

Would be great if you could upload them

mai · 28 March 2009, 20:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

*cough* Since the TRSI and Supreme versions are not in the latest TOSEC...

Would be great if you could upload them

You know, where to find the disks!!

If you wish, of course i can upload to the zone, but no need to move to EAB server.

TCD · 28 March 2009, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by mai

You know, where to find the disks!!

I think I got the hint

Okay will check that later and ask again if my guess was wrong

27 March 2009, 22:02	#1
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	New floppies for TOSEC (probably) Hi fellows, I uploaded to The Zone my dump of F-16 Combat Pilot. It's obtained from my real floppy. You can compare it with this one from TOSEC: F-16 Combat Pilot (1989)(Digital Integration).zip (it's the only one very similar to my dump). I'm 100% sure of my dumps' quality, but, when compared, the two images have differences. I wonder if my version is a slightly different one, or if it is ruined somehow. This would be very strange, since I have no physical errors on the real floppy. And I never overwrote it (saves, records, etc.). Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:33.

27 March 2009, 22:12	#2
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Hi again, I also uploaded my dump of Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show - disk1. There are only 32 bytes different from my dump and the one from TOSEC (Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show (1989)(MicroValue)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr PNA].zip). Among other differences, in my dump you can read (with a hex editor) "THE LEADERS" instead of "PARANOIMIA", and "ROBOCOP BBS SPREAD!" instead of "PARANOIMIA PRESENTS". I suppose this is an italian BBS hack, so this could be effectively included in TOSEC as a different "version" . Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:36.

27 March 2009, 22:52	#4
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Another one in the Zone: The Colony - disk2. There are 224 bytes different from my dump and the one from TOSEC (Colony, The (1990)(Mindscape)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr OCL][a].zip). This time the difference seems to be on an empty space of the disk. Yet, which one is the unmodified dump: mine or TOSEC's ? Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:36.

28 March 2009, 01:07	#5
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	This one will be interesting for you, TCD and mai . I uploaded Dyter-07 - disk1 and disk2, cracked by Tristar. Disk 2 is identical to Dyter-07 (1990)(reLINE)(Disk 2 of 2)[cr Tristar][h ACU - TFS] from TOSEC. Disk 1 is unmodified and missing from TOSEC, because the only one in TOSEC (by Tristar) has the [v BGS9] tag. (virus?) So my dumps will come in handy . Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:35.

28 March 2009, 02:00	#6
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Another one, absolutely missing from TOSEC: Loom GERMAN, cracked by Vision Factory - disk1 and disk2. Disk 3 is missing, unfortunately, because my third floppy has errors on some files . I tried all possible ways to recover it, but no luck. I could upload the third disk with errors (extended adf); it would be better than nothing, I suppose... Or perhaps some German mate reads this thread and finds it among his floppies, hopefully! Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:36.

27 March 2009, 22:16	#3
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,612	Most likely this gets a '[h Leaders]' tag then

28 March 2009, 03:39	#7
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	The last one for today: I uploaded my dump of Circus Attractions - disk1, which is different from TOSEC's Circus Attractions (1989)(Rainbow Arts)(Disk 1 of 2)[cr VF].zip. There is only a 9 bytes difference between them, in the bootblock. What do these 9 bytes change? Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:36.

28 March 2009, 03:53	#8
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	What does one care of a 9 byte difference? It could be anything, probably irrelevant. This is why I always been against TOSEC, it just adds things which are mostly unnecesary. I could upload my disks and they will be different to any TOSEC but I don't believe they are worth anything.There's no "good dump"of pirated software, I believe. Thank ze gods for the SPS!

28 March 2009, 08:06	#9
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,612	There are both good dumps and good cracks. The interesting thing is to find the combination of both With a good crack you don't have the manual protection, which isn't a too bad thing. What TOSEC lacks is an indicator for which disks are complete (nothing removed) and playable till the end.

28 March 2009, 19:46	#14
Supamax Da Digger :) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Monza, Italy Posts: 2,822	Hi, I uploaded to The Zone my dump of PaNorAmA Toolkit - 26 November 1986. As usual, it's obtained from my real floppy. I cannot find this release on Magix website, in the folder "TOSEC/Public Domain Collections". It's not a "regular" release, with its release number. Perhaps it's another MIA (Missing In Action). Last edited by Supamax; 28 March 2009 at 21:37.

28 March 2009, 20:39	#16
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,612	Are all three cracks German? I only know that the Cock-A-Cola one is German.

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