PPC-Warp3D games speedup - fullscreen in window-mode!

[Bamiga2002]

Cool! You will be the first PPC user to comment anything about FullWin if it works etc. ?

[CrashMidnick]

Yes I will. Just need to find another CF to backup my actual setup if something goes wrong I think I have one in a box.

[delshay]

Benchmark here is about the same using 800x600 screenmode, however how smooth the game runs depends also on settings in wipeout menu. Between triple buffering, fps setting & Bvision sgram speed settings did show improvement in smoothest and added just a little to fps.

Blizzard PPC 350Mhz, there was no difference when card was clocked @374Mhz

[Michael]

Originally Posted by delshay

Benchmark here is about the same using 800x600 screenmode, however how smooth the game runs depends also on settings in wipeout menu. Between triple buffering, fps setting & Bvision sgram speed settings did show improvement in smoothest and added just a little to fps.

Blizzard PPC 350Mhz, there was no difference when card was clocked @374Mhz

Have you had any chance to get GLQuakeWOS_Blitz running with your BVision?

[Bamiga2002]

Originally Posted by delshay

Benchmark here is about the same using 800x600 screenmode, however how smooth the game runs depends also on settings in wipeout menu. Between triple buffering, fps setting & Bvision sgram speed settings did show improvement in smoothest and added just a little to fps.

Blizzard PPC 350Mhz, there was no difference when card was clocked @374Mhz

Wow that's some clock speeds there!!
I always use in Wipeout 2097 640x480, max 60fps, max texture cache and AHI-sound ticked. So have you tested speed differences between SCREEN and WINDOW modes with FullWin? Please add more info and some numbers about fps please.

[Bamiga2002]

UPDATE - advice added:
Screenmodes are advised to create by user itself (instructions in post #1), because the "screenmode.prefs" info differs 99% for every user usually with RTG-screenmodes. Also tidied up 1st post because it was originally written kinda badly because excitement .

[delshay]

There's a demo on OS4.depot call "helloh.lha" run this short demo and post fps here.

OS4.x needed to run demo.

[Bamiga2002]

Originally Posted by delshay

There's a demo on OS4.depot call "helloh.lha" run this short demo and post fps here.

OS4.x needed to run demo.

Why won't you provide fps results or even answer questions? It seems you're ducking things... I don't even know if you have tested FullWin even if you said you'd test it. Instead you post some OS4.x demo for others to measure. I don't have OS4.x myself anymore.

So: have you ran any fps test with the speedup hack mentioned here?

[DDNI]

Delshay has been touting his uber PPC and BVision for years now.
He has shown very very little of it.

I decided long ago to ignore him until he proves his claims.

[Bamiga2002]

In Heretic II script you can also use a simple assign for CD 2 if you don't want to use the disc-image mounting command line. So comment the first 2 lines of Heretic II script and replace with:

Assign >NIL: Heretic_IIB: ""

I'll update the archive later, I want to find some more reasons to do so

[CrashMidnick]

Ok I have made some tests :

PCI libs : 10
PPC libs : 16.1

Quake demo 1 Normal mode : 26
Quake demo 1 Normal windowed mode : 29.2
Quake demo 1 FW : 33.8

Great improvement !! However I still see the pointer, window borders and a graphic problem between the weapon/health/armor bar and my gun : a colour line of about 1 cm from the right to the left border

Can you give me your bitzquakewos exe ? Maybe there is a problem there.

Wipeout : difficult to say as FPS always move from 10 to 35 depending on the maps and location inside maps but the average most of time :

Wipeout normal mode : 14 fps
Wipeout windowed normal mode : 15 fps
Wipeout FW : 17fps

It is a nice boost for this game as now every maps are very playable

I will test Quake 2 tomorrow, it is the last game I have that is in your list.

Good job mate ! Thanks for sharing !

EDIT : Ok found for quake, juste need to quit Amidock and I gain some FPS : 34.2

[Bamiga2002]

Originally Posted by CrashMidnick

Ok I have made some tests :

PCI libs : 10
PPC libs : 16.1

Quake demo 1 Normal mode : 26
Quake demo 1 Normal windowed mode : 29.2
Quake demo 1 FW : 33.8

Great improvement !! However I still see the pointer, window borders and a graphic problem between the weapon/health/armor bar and my gun : a colour line of about 1 cm from the right to the left border

Can you give me your bitzquakewos exe ? Maybe there is a problem there.

Wipeout : difficult to say as FPS always move from 10 to 35 depending on the maps and location inside maps but the average most of time :

Wipeout normal mode : 14 fps
Wipeout windowed normal mode : 15 fps
Wipeout FW : 17fps

It is a nice boost for this game as now every maps are very playable

I will test Quake 2 tomorrow, it is the last game I have that is in your list.

Good job mate ! Thanks for sharing !

EDIT : Ok found for quake, juste need to quit Amidock and I gain some FPS : 34.2

Great so it works for you ! Did quitting Amidock fix the window border and mouse pointer problem? I have edited the "ForceBorder" values to work with basic Workbench window dimensions (which I have), I don't know how it behaves if you use eg. AfA or VisualPrefs changing the window border sizes etc. If there are problems try different ForceBorder values. The docs can be found on Aminet.

[CrashMidnick]

Yes it solves all the problems except the graphic bar glitch on quake (about half a cm now, but does not really matter). On quake your patch is really nice mate.

Could you please upload a video ASAP of wipeout showing FPS on the first track ? I would like to see how it behave on your system.

[CrashMidnick]

For Quake 2

Quake 2 demo 1 Normal mode : 18.9
Quake 2 demo 1 Normal windowed mode : 21.5
Quake 2 demo 1 FW : 21.9

[Bamiga2002]

What's your specs for 68k & PPC?

[CrashMidnick]

060@60
Ppc@330

[Bamiga2002]

That's the exact same spec as mine (Stachu magic? ). I'm uploading the Wipeout video now. The game's a little speedier using "cockpit" view than the outside view, but more playable with outside view.

[CrashMidnick]

No Magic Cosmos

[Bamiga2002]

OK, Wipeout 2097 with FPS count [ Show youtube player ]

[CrashMidnick]

You have really better framerate on this game compared to me... I wonder why as the other results on the other games are quite the same. I would say that you have 3fps more.