Turrican comparison...

ST Dragon · 23 February 2005, 15:50

Super Turrican 1 on the SNES was a real Turrican game as it used the exact same character sprite of Turrican from Turrican 3 & Mega Turrican.

You could say it was Turrican 4 or a prequel of Turrican, as it mixed elements from all previous games & added new enemy sprites & levels.

But Super Turrican 2 on the SNES was a completely new game. Different Turrican Character spite, new enemies, game-play & level lay out.

Turrican 2 on the AMIGA is my favorite.

I love the 360 degrees rotating weapon. I don't understand why they removed it after Turrican 2. (Even though the Turrican 1 rotating laser looked more sinister

)

Its Ironic that Mega Turrican had better graphics than the A500 version; I remember AMIGA fans bashing the Mega Drives graphic capabilities.

I still don't know how they managed the multi coloured background of level1-Turrican 2, with only 32colours. AMIGA wonderful machine….

Turrican 2 PC by Sunsoft is probably the best version of Turrican on any system.
Plays & sounds as good as the Amiga version & has 256colours. What can beat that?

Amiga1992 · 23 February 2005, 17:49

I always foudn multicolor copper backgrounds to be lame shit, they look terrible. I prefer a good layer of simple clored parallax.

plasmatron · 23 February 2005, 19:49

I love the copper backgrounds in TURRICAN 2 on the outdoor stages for ever man ! I really love em.

Tim Janssen · 23 February 2005, 21:33

I think I've written this in another Turrican-thread before. Anyway, here I go again: What makes the Turrican series addictive for me is the exploration - hunting for secret passages, hidden powerblocks and of course finding the exit.

Enter Super Turrican 2: I should have never ever played this drivel in Champi (a Snes emulator) - but I just could not resist. ST2 picked up the 'less positive' features of earlier games and created special levels for it: Levels focussed on using grapling hooks, levels with only rotating heavy-pixelled end-bosses, levels with worthless 3-D into-the screen-with-bad-collision-detection-lose-all-your-lives-and-your-continues-are-gone-too action and so on. The exploration which makes the Turrican-titles so good is really, really missing here.

This game really has destroyed my fondness of the series.

Dastardly · 24 February 2005, 00:59

IMO 99% of copper backgrounds do indeed look horrendous. The developers seemed to think it was necessary to use every colour possible just because they could :/

I always thought Turrican 2 was one of the few games that made good use of copper backgrounds. A nice simple, subtle copper background that complements the 'real' graphics instead of making the whole thing look like technicolour puke.

Djay · 24 February 2005, 01:28

the black terrain effects against the copper background are a good example of "how to make it look good"

keropi · 24 February 2005, 07:28

Back then, when I was a PC user/gamer, I always heared about the beautifull copper BG's... well, what's the big deal? I too never liked them! most of the times they did not fit on the scenery much, it's just too colorfull...
I too think that the Turrican2 PC is the best Turrican2 you can play....

Jope · 24 February 2005, 08:43

Rainbow copper sucks.. Looks real dated nowadays. :-)

At least Robocod had some nice shapes that showed up in the copper, depending on what height our bionic fishy friend was currently residing at. :-)

ST Dragon · 24 February 2005, 09:06

Lion Heart also used copper BG's & it looks amazing! Did it only use 32 colours? It looks more like 256! It's amazing how Thalion achieved that.
This is probably the best looking AMIGA game. It looks even better than some AGA games.

Is there a way to play Turrican 2 PC on WindowsXP with full soundblaster support?
I tried DosBox but it wont go past the title screen.

manicx · 24 February 2005, 10:48

The dosbox site mention this as being playable. Since I don't have the game I can't try it tho...

keropi · 24 February 2005, 10:53

if you cannot find T2PC anywhere, perhaps I can zone it... it's 2,9MB

keropi · 24 February 2005, 10:58

get T2PC here:

http://www.staregry.pl/?c=_dg&i=140

just click on Mirror1 or Mirror2

derSammler · 25 February 2005, 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST Dragon

Its Ironic that Mega Turrican had better graphics than the A500 version; I remember AMIGA fans bashing the Mega Drives graphic capabilities.

The developers were forced to put the whole game onto one disk. That's the reason for this and some other things...

keropi · 25 February 2005, 11:52

why were they forced to use only 1 disk????

derSammler · 25 February 2005, 13:19

Because all their other games came on one disk as well and they didn't wanted to break with that "tradition", as silly as that might be...

keropi · 25 February 2005, 13:33

wtf??? what where they thinking???

LaundroMat · 25 February 2005, 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST Dragon

Lion Heart also used copper BG's & it looks amazing! Did it only use 32 colours? It looks more like 256! It's amazing how Thalion achieved that.
This is probably the best looking AMIGA game. It looks even better than some AGA games.

Well, copper 'tricks' allowed for more colours onscreen than 32. In a manner of speaking, the background of the screen could be filled up with a different colour per horizontal line.

Amiga1992 · 25 February 2005, 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ST Dragon

Its Ironic that Mega Turrican had better graphics than the A500 version; I remember AMIGA fans bashing the Mega Drives graphic capabilities.

Amiga fans (or should I say zealots?) were clearly wrong, since in many aspects, the Megadrive is way beter than an Amiga. in the graphics department

Firthy2002 · 25 February 2005, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

Amiga fans (or should I say zealots?) were clearly wrong, since in many aspects, the Megadrive is way beter than an Amiga. in the graphics department

Also the soundtrack is much better.

commie1974 · 25 February 2005, 16:07

Concerning gameplay, I think that T2-Amiga was the best, but don't forget the C=64 miracles, called T1 & T2! I've never played the MegaDrive or PC versions, I've no doubt that they may look brilliant, but the feeling of the C=64 is incomparable, IMHO, even better than the Amiga one!

23 February 2005, 15:50	#1
ST Dragon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: home Posts: 171	Turrican comparison... Super Turrican 1 on the SNES was a real Turrican game as it used the exact same character sprite of Turrican from Turrican 3 & Mega Turrican. You could say it was Turrican 4 or a prequel of Turrican, as it mixed elements from all previous games & added new enemy sprites & levels. But Super Turrican 2 on the SNES was a completely new game. Different Turrican Character spite, new enemies, game-play & level lay out. Turrican 2 on the AMIGA is my favorite. I love the 360 degrees rotating weapon. I don't understand why they removed it after Turrican 2. (Even though the Turrican 1 rotating laser looked more sinister ) Its Ironic that Mega Turrican had better graphics than the A500 version; I remember AMIGA fans bashing the Mega Drives graphic capabilities. I still don't know how they managed the multi coloured background of level1-Turrican 2, with only 32colours. AMIGA wonderful machine…. Turrican 2 PC by Sunsoft is probably the best version of Turrican on any system. Plays & sounds as good as the Amiga version & has 256colours. What can beat that?

23 February 2005, 21:33	#4
Tim Janssen Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Den Bosch / The Netherlands Age: 47 Posts: 1,271	Super Turrican 2 rant I think I've written this in another Turrican-thread before. Anyway, here I go again: What makes the Turrican series addictive for me is the exploration - hunting for secret passages, hidden powerblocks and of course finding the exit. Enter Super Turrican 2: I should have never ever played this drivel in Champi (a Snes emulator) - but I just could not resist. ST2 picked up the 'less positive' features of earlier games and created special levels for it: Levels focussed on using grapling hooks, levels with only rotating heavy-pixelled end-bosses, levels with worthless 3-D into-the screen-with-bad-collision-detection-lose-all-your-lives-and-your-continues-are-gone-too action and so on. The exploration which makes the Turrican-titles so good is really, really missing here. This game really has destroyed my fondness of the series.

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23 February 2005, 17:49	#2
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,646	I always foudn multicolor copper backgrounds to be lame shit, they look terrible. I prefer a good layer of simple clored parallax.

23 February 2005, 19:49	#3
plasmatron Zone Friend Join Date: May 2003 Location: Germany Age: 48 Posts: 967	I love the copper backgrounds in TURRICAN 2 on the outdoor stages for ever man ! I really love em.

24 February 2005, 00:59	#5
Dastardly Into the Wonderful Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: England Age: 49 Posts: 2,335	IMO 99% of copper backgrounds do indeed look horrendous. The developers seemed to think it was necessary to use every colour possible just because they could :/ I always thought Turrican 2 was one of the few games that made good use of copper backgrounds. A nice simple, subtle copper background that complements the 'real' graphics instead of making the whole thing look like technicolour puke.

24 February 2005, 01:28	#6
Djay 95th User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Brighton/UK Age: 48 Posts: 3,120	the black terrain effects against the copper background are a good example of "how to make it look good"

24 February 2005, 07:28	#7
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	Back then, when I was a PC user/gamer, I always heared about the beautifull copper BG's... well, what's the big deal? I too never liked them! most of the times they did not fit on the scenery much, it's just too colorfull... I too think that the Turrican2 PC is the best Turrican2 you can play....

24 February 2005, 08:43	#8
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,877	Rainbow copper sucks.. Looks real dated nowadays. :-) At least Robocod had some nice shapes that showed up in the copper, depending on what height our bionic fishy friend was currently residing at. :-)

24 February 2005, 09:06	#9
ST Dragon Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: home Posts: 171	Lion Heart also used copper BG's & it looks amazing! Did it only use 32 colours? It looks more like 256! It's amazing how Thalion achieved that. This is probably the best looking AMIGA game. It looks even better than some AGA games. Is there a way to play Turrican 2 PC on WindowsXP with full soundblaster support? I tried DosBox but it wont go past the title screen.

24 February 2005, 10:48	#10
manicx Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 991	The dosbox site mention this as being playable. Since I don't have the game I can't try it tho...

24 February 2005, 10:53	#11
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	if you cannot find T2PC anywhere, perhaps I can zone it... it's 2,9MB

24 February 2005, 10:58	#12
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	get T2PC here: http://www.staregry.pl/?c=_dg&i=140 just click on Mirror1 or Mirror2

25 February 2005, 11:52	#14
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	why were they forced to use only 1 disk????

25 February 2005, 13:19	#15
derSammler Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 1,655	Because all their other games came on one disk as well and they didn't wanted to break with that "tradition", as silly as that might be...

25 February 2005, 13:33	#16
keropi . Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ioannina/Greece Posts: 5,040	wtf??? what where they thinking???

25 February 2005, 16:07	#20
commie1974 Amiga? What's that?!? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Piraeus-Greece Age: 50 Posts: 260	Concerning gameplay, I think that T2-Amiga was the best, but don't forget the C=64 miracles, called T1 & T2! I've never played the MegaDrive or PC versions, I've no doubt that they may look brilliant, but the feeling of the C=64 is incomparable, IMHO, even better than the Amiga one!

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