Unplayable music - modules that don't work

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by wanderer

Thanks, tried in Deliplayer alternately "Mark Cooksey" (3.31KB, from EaglePlayer 2.03), and a couple of MC players already in the DP folder, having removed FWMP. They didn't work.

You must use player and original FW modules version from Wanted Team page.

[wanderer]

Thanks, I finally did it and FW plays fine in Deliplayer. This new player "half-breaks" Mighty Bombjack, haven't tried other MC stuff. It plays the music, but cannot play the sfx (old one attached here does).

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by wanderer

Thanks, I finally did it and FW plays fine in Deliplayer. This new player "half-breaks" Mighty Bombjack, haven't tried other MC stuff. It plays the music, but cannot play the sfx (old one attached here does).

Due this is only music/song player. Most of Amiga music formats has SFX too, for most cases SFX are handled only if used this same initialisation code.

[wanderer]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

Due this is only music/song player. Most of Amiga music formats has SFX too, for most cases SFX are handled only if used this same initialisation code.

Thanks a lot for the help & info. All we need now is a proper It Came From The Desert rip!

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by wanderer

Thanks a lot for the help & info. All we need now is a proper It Came From The Desert rip!

Do you checked WT page? I think that It Came From The Desert rip and Sonix player works OK. Of course you must disable IFF-SMUS player, if using Deliplayer.

[wanderer]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

Do you checked WT page? I think that It Came From The Desert rip and Sonix player works OK. Of course you must disable IFF-SMUS player, if using Deliplayer.

The SMUS-ICFTD Demo rip plays ok, but is missing many tunes. The TINY rip seems complete, but not all tracks are played correctly. Only 1 or 2 channels are heard. Deliplayers reports Sonix Music Driver as active player.

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by wanderer

The SMUS-ICFTD Demo rip plays ok, but is missing many tunes. The TINY rip seems complete, but not all tracks are played correctly. Only 1 or 2 channels are heard. Deliplayers reports Sonix Music Driver as active player.

Thanks for infos. I found reason, some samples are shortest (modified) than original. You can use demo samples for play TINY songs (only two samples are missing for two songs) or you must wait for next update of the WT page (I want to rip first TINY songs from Lords of The Rising Sun).

[wanderer]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

Thanks for infos. I found reason, some samples are shortest (modified) than original. You can use demo samples for play TINY songs (only two samples are missing for two songs) or you must wait for next update of the WT page (I want to rip first TINY songs from Lords of The Rising Sun).

Thanks a lot, I'll wait for both classics!

[wanderer]

One last note on Cinemaware, some older tunes (DOTCrown-Sinbad) seem to play ok, but at a very slow tempo.

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by wanderer

One last note on Cinemaware, some older tunes (DOTCrown-Sinbad) seem to play ok, but at a very slow tempo.

Do you think about WT customs or Peter Kunath's customs? If I remember WT customs uses original game/timer speed, then tempo must be identical.

[wanderer]

Tried the UnExotica files in the past, and the ones available here with DeliPlayer, same issue (King Of Chicago too). I don't know about the PK customs...

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by wanderer

Tried the UnExotica files in the past, and the ones available here with DeliPlayer, same issue (King Of Chicago too). I don't know about the PK customs...

Try with disabled caches or use DT2 or maybe press a few times restart button. This is perhaps cache problem. On my Amiga 2000 first song from DOTC is played ~80 secs.

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[wanderer]

Caching seems disabled by default in DP. Some tunes play at correct speed (2nd and 5th for example, in the WT .lha download). If you mean the DOTC title theme yes, that plays for 80 sec. here too (the 1st tune). However, that's very slow compared to the actual game, which you can hear right away [ Show youtube player ]. The delays in the video are caused by floppy disk access, I so remember that.

update: the correct 2nd tune can be heard at the video's 0:51.

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by wanderer

Caching seems disabled by default in DP. Some tunes play at correct speed (2nd and 5th for example, in the WT .lha download). If you mean the DOTC title theme yes, that plays for 80 sec. here too (the 1st tune). However, that's very slow compared to the actual game, which you can hear right away [ Show youtube player ]. The delays in the video are caused by floppy disk access, I so remember that.

update: the correct 2nd tune can be heard at the video's 0:51.

You can change song speed via EP's speed slider.
Or you can edit songs speed values direct into source code or exe file.
Here are song/timer speed values for DOTC songs:

IbW0008AA dc.w 2 ; 1st song
dc.l $EA60 ; timer value
BbW0006EE dc.w 2 ; 2nd song
dc.l $A410 ; timer value etc.
DbL000660 dc.w 2 ; 3rd song
dc.l $9470
RbW000572 dc.w 2 ; 4th song
dc.l $EA60
SbW0007FE dc.w 2 ; 5th song
dc.l $AFC8
MbW00081C dc.w 2 ; 6th song
dc.l $101D0
UbW000F70 dc.w 2 ; 7th song
dc.l $BB80
WbW000630 dc.w 2 ; 8th song
dc.l $AFC8
TbW0006FC dc.w 2 ; 9th song
dc.l $EA60

For example you can replace $0000EA60 first song timer value with $0000A410, and music will be works fastest.
If game uses different (not original) timer values, then perhaps you can rip these values from memory dump, when music is played. Or you can calc these values manual from next equal:

oldtimer*newtimeinsecs/oldtimeinsecs=newtimer
f.e.
$EA60*50s/80s=

I don't want to change original Bill Williams timer values to used by Amiga game. This music is conversion of Jim Cuomo scores, perhaps from C64 and perhaps uses original song speed, but I don't check SID version.

[wanderer]

Is the Stormlord music playable on a PC? I've also tried to find C64 versions and play them, but failed again. Any ideas?

To anyone who missed this: there's a stunning Stormlord remix here, where the title has been transformed to a beautiful, Italian song! (English lyrics available).

(I'm not sure if I thanked you for the info on the previous post, Don. Thanks!)

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by wanderer

Is the Stormlord music playable on a PC? I've also tried to find C64 versions and play them, but failed again. Any ideas?

To anyone who missed this: there's a stunning Stormlord remix here, where the title has been transformed to a beautiful, Italian song! (English lyrics available).

(I'm not sure if I thanked you for the info on the previous post, Don. Thanks!)

For me all Stormlord musics from the WT page must works with Jeroen Tel player for Deliplayer too.

[wanderer]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

For me all Stormlord musics from the WT page must works with Jeroen Tel player for Deliplayer too.

Thanks. This works fine, but only if I remove everything from the AmigaPlayers directory except Jeroen Tel. Also tested the M.O.N. player but it's not the one causing the problem. I'll try some more.

update: Ok, got it: it was "mon_old' (3.03KB)