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Old 21 November 2020, 02:37   #1
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Tips to Stay in Good Health

What about a few tips to stay in good health, in this time of pandemic :

Kill all your farmed minks (a common joke in Denmark, don't bother )

Reinforce the body's natural defence if you can, especially by increasing consumption of essential nutrients, such as vitamin D, E and antioxidants. For that purpose, I chew a few unsalted almonds every other day (got them through Amazon, from a famous California based company).

Promote the use of robots in your store (as long as there's enough room for it to meander freely) to assist people in practicing non-contact measures. Shopping malls in Japan have already took the leap :


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Old 21 November 2020, 16:25   #2
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News of minks catching and spreading Corona virus reached the UK too so I see where you're going there. Poor things - they're suddenly public enemy no. 1.

Working from home has been great for me because I don't have to traipse around the streets of Manchester breathing in everyone's cigarette (and even weed) fumes. No takeaway stink, aftershave and so on either. What this equates to for me personally is no migraine. Woo-friggin-hoo!
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Old 21 November 2020, 17:22   #3
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Eat lots of foods containing garlic and capsaicin sauce, drink lots of citrus juices.
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Old 22 November 2020, 00:39   #4
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1. Avoid the flu jab
2. Avoid the Covid jab
3. Avoid the doctor.
4. Eat fresh fruit & vegetables (preferably organic)
5. Drink distilled water
6. Take vitamin C powder if feeling ill
7. Supplement with vitamin D and magnesium
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Drink distilled water
Don't you think there is a risk of insufficient minerals intake to be replacing tap water or bottled mineral water with distilled water (some brands of bottled and sparkling water have their share of issues I know, but still) ? Distilled / descaled water may be great to wash your hair or your clothes, but by way of drinking water, I have my doubts about it.

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Here's another tip : Look for fermented food and drinks next time you enter a specialist retailer. The following press article from a German food analyst makes a good presentation of this ancient preservation technique brought up-to-date :
https://www.mintel.com/blog/drink-ma...ces-in-germany
e.q. in organic shops, you may find a range of fermented juices, most likely carrot, red beet based etc. Just have in mind choucroute / sauerkraut cabbage juice tastes pretty sour before picking up that one up (could possibly be used as a substitute for vinegar, every now and then ?).

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Lacto-fermentation, the most common type of fermentation, leads to a decrease in the level of carbohydrates and an increase in beneficial enzymes, various strains of probiotics and friendly bacteria. It thus helps to break down foods to a more digestible form. Fermented foods and drinks are said to have numerous health benefits and play a notable role in digestive health. For some time now, traditional fermented vegetables, such as sauerkraut, have seen a revival, while fermented soft drinks in Germany, like Bionade and Fassbrause, have met a growing consumer desire for healthier, less sugary beverages. Driven by health players like DM and Alnatura, lacto-fermentation is also emerging as a claim of differentiation in the vegetable juice category. The fact that, beyond preservation advantages, lacto-fermentation also increases or preserves the vitamin and enzyme levels, as well as digestibility, is due to play well with Germans.

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Old 23 November 2020, 08:15   #6
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Supplement with magnesium
Ah, but it's not that simple. Bio-availability of magnesium as a supplement is not great even the marine kind, most of it will be excreted in the urine so choose wisely. Best supplement IMHO is made of several sources of magnesium, marine, stereate etc. It's supposed to work in synergy with the various vitamins of the B family as you may know, not just B6, but also B9 (folic acid), B12 etc. There was a time, it was fashionable in France to supplement with "magné-B6" ampoules (plain lactate magnesium and B6 vitamins). Most likely, it wasn't very effective to say the least. Bottled water is also a good meaning to supplement oneself with minerals as I suggested. In France, there is a very unique brand of water which contains magnesium. It's conditioned in a blue packaging and is supposed to spring from the ground naturally carbonated, at the foot of the Auvergne volcanoes.
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It's a bit funky to advise fermented foods "because pandemic" - they have been a good idea for eons, no specific reason needed. It would be best to take the time to learn how to do that yourself though, at least in my neck of the woods they charge an arm and a leg for anything that is not sauerkraut. It's not labor intensive at all, you need a jar, vinegar and patience.

That would be my tip of the day: take this time to learn how to produce things yourself and maybe make healthier versions of your favourite junkfood - you get the benefit of something tasty without the gut growth. I can recommend starting with making extra crispy french fries from the oven - or doing an incredibly tasty variant with sweet potato. This video opened a new world to me:

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Pre-cutting the potatoes and boiling them in water with some vinegar to keep them firm... who knew. Note that I'm absolutely no fan of peanut oil, it's pretty much cancer in a bottle. But it's no worse than what your local snackbar uses and at home you have full control over how much is used, and you can properly draw it out with kitchen paper after baking.

Speaking of fermented foods... if that is something you are interested in then it might be time to learn the highest form of food art: making Kimchi, the ultimate side dish. I haven't been able to pull it off yet, it's Korean black magic as far as I'm concerned.
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Thank you for sharing that link. Will try that with french fries. We do lots of experiments with air fryer.
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1. Avoid the flu jab
2. Avoid the Covid jab
3. Avoid the doctor.
4. Eat fresh fruit & vegetables (preferably organic)
5. Drink distilled water
6. Take vitamin C powder if feeling ill
7. Supplement with vitamin D and magnesium
While eating and drinking healthily is always to be recommended, I'm not sure it's a great idea to be spreading potentially dangerously bad advice about avoiding medical care. I for one would like to see any credible evidence you have to back up that advice. Because without that, all you're doing is parroting dangerous, unfounded quackery from crackpot sites. like the one you link to in your signature.

On the other hand, having such an absurd site in your signature almost brings you to Poe's Law territory - it's hard to tell if you're actually serious, or if your post is just satire.

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Don't you think there is a risk of insufficient minerals intake to be replacing tap water or bottled mineral water with distilled water (some brands of bottled and sparkling water have their share of issues I know, but still) ? Distilled / descaled water may be great to wash your hair or your clothes, but by way of drinking water, I have my doubts about it.
Indeed, distilled water presents a negative "pressure" for dissolved materials, and will tend to absorb molecules from anything it touches. Whether it removes enough from the body to make a difference will depend on how close to the minimum you are for those vitamins and minerals in the first place, so it shouldn't make a difference to healthy people. But drinking it will definitely result in lower levels of those minerals typically found in drinking water, such as magnesium (is that why it's being recommending it as a supplement maybe?), calcium and potassium.
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Old 23 November 2020, 17:37   #11
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Ah, but it's not that simple. Bio-availability of magnesium as a supplement is not great even the marine kind, most of it will be excreted in the urine so choose wisely. Best supplement IMHO is made of several sources of magnesium, marine, stereate etc. It's supposed to work in synergy with the various vitamins of the B family as you may know, not just B6, but also B9 (folic acid), B12 etc. There was a time, it was fashionable in France to supplement with "magné-B6" ampoules (plain lactate magnesium and B6 vitamins). Most likely, it wasn't very effective to say the least. Bottled water is also a good meaning to supplement oneself with minerals as I suggested. In France, there is a very unique brand of water which contains magnesium. It's conditioned in a blue packaging and is supposed to spring from the ground naturally carbonated, at the foot of the Auvergne volcanoes.

Hey Squawk I'm impressed with your knowledge! Not so with others - less said about them the better. As for distilled water, I do add the minerals back in using formula 56 although many point out that we should be getting minerals from food anyway but that's by the by. I use it also for making the water more alkaline and less acidic.
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Not so with others - less said about them the better.
That's a shame, because offering dubious advice with nothing credible to back it up seems like a waste of your time. Time that could be better spent bettering yourself.
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1. Get the flu vaccine every year
2. Get the Covid vaccine when available
3. Go to the doctor if you need to or once a year for screenings
4. Rinse and eat fresh fruit & vegetables
5. Drink water
6. Eat a varied diet
7. Exercise
8. Get vaccines for everything that you'd rather not have
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you need a jar, vinegar and patience.
That's not exactly what I had in mind. See, lacto fermentation doesn't amount to adding vinegar to some sliced vegetables and leaving it to macerate for a while. It's salt (or even the lactic acid present in some vegetables in its natural state) that ought to be the basis for the brine in which to immerse your stuff, not vinegar. That technique is even more rudimentary compared to using vinegar or alcohol (care to specify the type of vinegar you use for such things ?). It's not so much a matter of how it will taste but how well it will be preserved. Even fruits e.q. cherries can undergo lacto fermentation process, needless to say, said fruits will taste somehow bittersweet at the end of the process. Ph gets more acidic, enzyme levels increase as I mentioned earlier on, also the growth of a layer of yeast may occur. To use an analogy, picture yourself being served regurgitated food, not very tempting right ? Conversely, your stomach won't break a sweat to digest such food.

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The Japanese equivalent of Kimchi would be tsukemono (pickles), I guess. I don't know much about other capitals traditions but here in Paris, Sushi restaurants fall roughly into two categories, those led by Chinese, and those led by Japanese natives. As far as pickled vegetables are concerned, the former settle for white cabbage with a splash of some ordinary dressing or wakame, while the latter serve more refined appetizers such as tsukemono, tempura (surprisingly digestible shrimps and sliced vegetables in breadcrumbs) etc.

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I use it also for making the water more alkaline and less acidic.
Water is pH 7, neither acid nor alkaline.
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well it seems like the ot forums are often visited by the lowest of the low.
this is just nonsense and dangerous to be spreading it around.

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Old 24 November 2020, 18:54   #17
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Water is pH 7, neither acid nor alkaline.
Apparently, he considers it's best to avoids tap water (potentially spoiled due to the consequences of hydraulic fracturing). Our friend here would rather drink distilled water, to which he adds up a pinch of a powder sold in the U.S. called formula 56. I checked their web site and here is what they argue about distilled water properties :

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Distilled water can also become slightly acidic as it mildly bonds with Carbon Dioxide in the air - Formula 56 helps to balance the pH of your distilled drinking water.
The formula 56 could be compared to a dried soup made entirely of minerals and trace elements if you wish, to build your own supply of mineral water. Personally, I'd simply use a water filter jug.

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Hey Squawk I'm impressed with your knowledge!
Much obliged, and that's just the tip of the iceberg . Joke aside, I was a student of medical school for a few months before switching to economics. Missed my chance to become an influential Doctor, who knows. One inside the other, I view myself as a bonesetter of sorts.
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I'm not sure it's a great idea to be spreading potentially dangerously bad advice about avoiding medical care.
Here in France, we are world champions of having our population especially the elderly taking anxiolytics. Go see the Doctor when experiencing a temporary psychological discomfort, come back with a prescription of anti-anxiety and / or sleeping pills. People always have the urge to shape up reality to their erroneous conceptions, ah but that would take us too far. Maybe Steve meant avoid the Doctor unless there is something with your physical condition he or she can actually deal with.

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it seems like the ot forums are often visited by the lowest of the low.
You're not yet at the end of your surprises . Allow me to place a quote. This one is from Lord Byron :
"If I am fool, it is, at least, a doubting one; and I envy no one the certainty of his self-approved wisdom."

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Here in France, we are world champions of having our population especially the elderly taking anxiolytics. Go see the Doctor when feeling a little psychological discomfort, come back with a prescription of anti-anxiety and / or sleeping pill. People always want to shape reality to their erroneous conceptions, ah but that would take us too far. Maybe he meant avoid the Doctor unless there is something with your physical condition he or she can actually deal with. In other words, don't be a...
Perhaps, but in the context of the rest of his points, which advise against receiving life-saving vaccines, and in the wider context of his history of posting misinformation and conspiracy theories about the current pandemic, I'd say he means it in a more literal, distrust-of-everyone-in-a-position-of-expertise sense. But of course he's welcome to tell us exactly what he means, in case I'm mistaken.
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News of minks catching and spreading Corona virus reached the UK too so I see where you're going there. Poor things - they're suddenly public enemy no. 1.
Here is the outcome of that story. Recently, Danes had no other choice except to exhume the millions of carcasses. See, they realized with dismay that the numerous bodies could pollute the soil, so they have settled on setting them on fire instead .

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they charge an arm and a leg for anything that is not sauerkraut.
Sauerkraut will do, you don't need much intake anyway. A few centiliters as your daily dose would be just fine. Think actieve melk, in terms of benefits such fermented beverages may provide to the body (on a larger scale). Or, if the taste is too strong, you may use it as a substitute for vinegar in salads and cold dishes.

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