KS1.3 Patched with KS3.1 SCSI.device - Help please

dJOS · 22 February 2013, 00:19

Hi folks, wondering if someone can assist me Patching my KS1.3 rom file with with the KS3.1 SCSI.device as per Amniet:

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/kick13scsipatch

Im a total noob at this and im stuck at the first step:

Quote:

Patch your Kickstart 1.3 image (using the gpatch tool from Aminet): gpatch kick34005.A500 kick34005.A500.gpatch kick34005.A500_patched

I have everything in the same folder (patch file, rom file, gpatch) and have named everything as above to hopefully prevent me getting confused but I get the error: wrong number of arguments.

Im doing this on my 500+ with WB3.1.

any help appreciated.

mfilos · 22 February 2013, 00:32

Check your PM

dJOS · 22 February 2013, 00:36

Thanks mate, you're a gentleman and a scholar.

dJOS · 22 February 2013, 00:46

Btw, I did solve my problem - I was getting the gpatch dir conflicting with the gpatch program - I renamed the dir and problem went away.

dJOS · 31 December 2013, 12:46

Hi Milfos, I finally got the patched KS1.3 rom file burnt (thanks Kipper) but neither of us can get it to work - CF HDD just never shows up even if properly prepared on winUAE first. The only thing that does work is setting up the disk and partitions works fine but the icons never appear on WB - i was able to quick format the partitions created on my a500 in WinUAE without any dramas at all and install WB1.3 but once back in my a500 the CF HDD still doesn't show up.

I also noticed that if I type "version scsi.device" it responds with version 43.45 - is that correct, seems a bit high? Isnt that for OS3.9+?

Jope · 31 December 2013, 13:59

Did you install a 1.3 compatible ffs onto the RDB? Is the disk visible in hdtoolbox in the A500?

Toni Wilen · 31 December 2013, 14:09

Does C:Info show all partition(s)? "Not a DOS disk" or something else?

dJOS · 31 December 2013, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jope

Did you install a 1.3 compatible ffs onto the RDB? Is the disk visible in hdtoolbox in the A500?

Hi guys, as far as I know yes - I'm using a 1.3 era copy of HDToolBox that I found on one of my old disks and I can see the cf card in it and define the drive and also partition it.

The partitions just never appear on the desktop on my a500 at all but using the same rom file they shows up in winUAE straight away.

dJOS · 01 January 2014, 22:58

It was pointed out to me via PM that I should be using win UAE's ide driver not the uae driver - when I try this I get the same result as my a 500, no booting from the cf card.

Arnie · 02 January 2014, 00:32

I have a patched kick1.3 and no CF will boot unless I prep it in WinUAE with the A2091 install disk. You need to select SCSI6 as the HD controller.

If you can successfully prep the card with this disk then it will boot on your Amiga.

Weird but true, works for me every time

Vot · 02 January 2014, 00:34

That is weird.

dJOS · 02 January 2014, 01:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

I have a patched kick1.3 and no CF will boot unless I prep it in WinUAE with the A2091 install disk. You need to select SCSI6 as the HD controller.

If you can successfully prep the card with this disk then it will boot on your Amiga.

Weird but true, works for me every time

interesting, cheers for the insight.

dJOS · 02 January 2014, 02:46

Ok I've tried your method Arnie and no joy (I cant even see the CF card in HDToolBox) - I suspect it's the version of SCSI.device that is the issue. when I get time i'll create a new patched 1.3 rom with the KS3.1 scsi.device instead of 43.45 version.

Arnie · 02 January 2014, 03:31

Could be the card, what brand are you using?

Also try HDInsttools as an alternative to hdtoolbox.

dJOS · 02 January 2014, 05:25

I was using a SanDisk 32Mb in UAE which I discovered is no good for using as a CF HDD.

My main one is a Yum Cha 1GB unit which I've had working in a 500+ with WB3.1 as a CF-HDD with no issues.

Amusingly I just tried the a2091 install disk on my a500 and HDToolBox shows my CF-HDD and lets me define the drive and partition it etc but I still cant see DH0 & DH1 icons even after a reboot.

Come to think of it I might have had PFS on this CF card at one point, is it possible something is left over and causing my dramas?

Vot · 02 January 2014, 05:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by dJOS

Come to think of it I might have had PFS on this CF card at one point, is it possible something is left over and causing my dramas?

Maybe. Just format it as ofs and test if it boots. And make sure the partition isn't too big etc.

dJOS · 02 January 2014, 05:33

Partitioning to 100mb now with OFS - i wonder if it'll show up tho, cant format something that isnt visible.

Btw, Interestingly on my a500 it has the SCSI ID of 0.

dJOS · 02 January 2014, 05:36

Nup, even an OFS partition of 100MB doesnt appear.

I even tried the "Reselect" Tool but the partitions just refuse to automount.

zipper · 02 January 2014, 07:33

I think the max for OFS HD was something 53 MB...

Vot · 02 January 2014, 07:37

Just make it small like 20mb just to see if it boots at all

31 December 2013, 12:46	#5
dJOS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 888	Hi Milfos, I finally got the patched KS1.3 rom file burnt (thanks Kipper) but neither of us can get it to work - CF HDD just never shows up even if properly prepared on winUAE first. The only thing that does work is setting up the disk and partitions works fine but the icons never appear on WB - i was able to quick format the partitions created on my a500 in WinUAE without any dramas at all and install WB1.3 but once back in my a500 the CF HDD still doesn't show up. I also noticed that if I type "version scsi.device" it responds with version 43.45 - is that correct, seems a bit high? Isnt that for OS3.9+? Last edited by dJOS; 31 December 2013 at 13:05.

02 January 2014, 02:46	#13
dJOS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 888	Ok I've tried your method Arnie and no joy (I cant even see the CF card in HDToolBox) - I suspect it's the version of SCSI.device that is the issue. when I get time i'll create a new patched 1.3 rom with the KS3.1 scsi.device instead of 43.45 version. Last edited by dJOS; 02 January 2014 at 02:53.

02 January 2014, 05:25	#15
dJOS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 888	I was using a SanDisk 32Mb in UAE which I discovered is no good for using as a CF HDD. My main one is a Yum Cha 1GB unit which I've had working in a 500+ with WB3.1 as a CF-HDD with no issues. Amusingly I just tried the a2091 install disk on my a500 and HDToolBox shows my CF-HDD and lets me define the drive and partition it etc but I still cant see DH0 & DH1 icons even after a reboot. Come to think of it I might have had PFS on this CF card at one point, is it possible something is left over and causing my dramas? Last edited by prowler; 02 January 2014 at 21:41. Reason: Back-to-back posts merged.

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22 February 2013, 00:32	#2
mfilos Paranoid Amigoid Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Athens/Greece Age: 45 Posts: 1,978	Check your PM

22 February 2013, 00:36	#3
dJOS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 888	Thanks mate, you're a gentleman and a scholar.

22 February 2013, 00:46	#4
dJOS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 888	Btw, I did solve my problem - I was getting the gpatch dir conflicting with the gpatch program - I renamed the dir and problem went away.

31 December 2013, 13:59	#6
Jope - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Helsinki / Finland Age: 43 Posts: 9,864	Did you install a 1.3 compatible ffs onto the RDB? Is the disk visible in hdtoolbox in the A500?

31 December 2013, 14:09	#7
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,519	Does C:Info show all partition(s)? "Not a DOS disk" or something else?

01 January 2014, 22:58	#9
dJOS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 888	It was pointed out to me via PM that I should be using win UAE's ide driver not the uae driver - when I try this I get the same result as my a 500, no booting from the cf card.

02 January 2014, 00:32	#10
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	I have a patched kick1.3 and no CF will boot unless I prep it in WinUAE with the A2091 install disk. You need to select SCSI6 as the HD controller. If you can successfully prep the card with this disk then it will boot on your Amiga. Weird but true, works for me every time

02 January 2014, 00:34	#11
Vot Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 651	That is weird.

02 January 2014, 03:31	#14
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	Could be the card, what brand are you using? Also try HDInsttools as an alternative to hdtoolbox.

02 January 2014, 05:33	#17
dJOS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 888	Partitioning to 100mb now with OFS - i wonder if it'll show up tho, cant format something that isnt visible. Btw, Interestingly on my a500 it has the SCSI ID of 0.

02 January 2014, 05:36	#18
dJOS Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 888	Nup, even an OFS partition of 100MB doesnt appear. I even tried the "Reselect" Tool but the partitions just refuse to automount.

02 January 2014, 07:33	#19
zipper Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: finland Posts: 1,838	I think the max for OFS HD was something 53 MB...

02 January 2014, 07:37	#20
Vot Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 651	Just make it small like 20mb just to see if it boots at all

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