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Old 22 June 2008, 21:37   #1
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Amstrad founder Sir Alan Sugar...loser.

Read this article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7464074.stm

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Amstrad, in Brentwood, Essex, was visited by a Microsoft salesman - or "mid-Atlantic smoothie" as Sir Alan describes him - who came to sell Microsoft's MS-DOS operating system.

Sir Alan declined, telling the salesman he was quite happy with the rival DR-DOS system from Digital Research for his new computer, explaining that "we're a consumer electronics manufacturer here, we're not a bunch of geeks, we don't give a sh**".

MS, which I have no love for, is atop the tech world. It may be in "decline", but its dominance and effect on us is unquestioned.
And where is Amstrad now?
Bill Gates is one of the world's richest men. And Sir Sugar?
Oh well, at least he has a peerage.
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Old 22 June 2008, 21:54   #2
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I dont think this decision had anything to do with anything. He later took MS-DOS at a phenomenally low price due to his resistance.
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Old 22 June 2008, 22:17   #3
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its not a peerage, its his pimp name.... Sir Alan "trick-tickle" sugar

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Old 22 June 2008, 22:52   #4
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I dont think this decision had anything to do with anything. He later took MS-DOS at a phenomenally low price due to his resistance.
No, it's his attitude towards computers and the "geeks" that used them thatI think may have lead his company to doom.
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I hate to break it to you Fred, but Amstrad are still going strong.
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They left the geeky market though Really interesting that they changed the company profile and are still sucessful. Not many of these early computer companies have survived.
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Sir Clive Sinclair and Sir Alan Sugar should joust on Sinclair C5s.
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Old 22 June 2008, 23:17   #8
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Sir Alan Sugar,

Yes he has done well for an old Barrel Boy, Profiting from selling outdated recycled crap to the mass consumer market, One of the first to outsource everything to China, and now still plagues us all by supplying SKY with the worst DigiBox (SKY Plus) they have ever had the nerve to pass on to us.

Alan Sugar what a fine example of British Business Brains & Acumen, provided you dont care about the future.

Sorry Guys couldn't help it, and Of course they are my views.
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Old 22 June 2008, 23:18   #9
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Sir Clive Sinclair and Sir Alan Sugar should joust on Sinclair C5s.
I would pay to see this!!!!!!


and here is a picture of the Charriots that will be racing...



me and the boys over in the prb.hardware threads kinda... well upgraded it a bit ;D ... should make for a great jousting match.....

in the words of our esteemed Killer Gorilla....

"Make it happen!"
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before anyone asks.... its an Afterburner.... yes.... its a jet propelled C5 ..... the way GOD intended it to be!!!!
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Zetro,

Powered by Sugar's Verbal Bullshit no doubt.....

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Old 22 June 2008, 23:22   #12
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@TC

heys my friend.... thats a good idea.... it would be a great way of protecting the environment to from his incredible waffle and dribble

I can see it now....

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in the RED corner...... A man who need no introduction... the Forbear of the Home COMPUTER... Siiirrrrrrr Ciliiiivvvveeeeeeeee SINCLaiiiirrrrrrrrrr........

And in the other RED coner covered in his own entrails is Siiirrrrrr Alan "Trick Tickle" Sugarrrrrr.......
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Zetro,

Hey Mate, I've got a lot of respect for Sir Clive,

But Sugar he's just always profited from everyone else's ideas by regurgitating them without respecting the quality, source / origin or the end consumer.

I would happily stuff that Hot rod C5 up his arse, power it up and then tell the B**tard "Your Fired!"

Sir "Talk a load of boll**ks" Alan

God he makes my blood boil... Utter asshole.

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No, it's his attitude towards computers and the "geeks" that used them thatI think may have lead his company to doom.
He sold it last year for £125 million, and has a personal cash fortune of £840 million, hardly doom!

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still plagues us all by supplying SKY with the worst DigiBox (SKY Plus) they have ever had the nerve to pass on to us.
The Amstrad Sky+ box is (unfortunately) the best of the Sky+ boxes.

Altech UEC, Pace and Thomson being the other manufacturers. (All boxes use different chips / firmware etc.)
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oh i would be there helping you leaver that bad boy in there.... then handing you the match to start the engine LOL

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why is the Amstrad box the better of the sky boxes?
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why is the Amstrad box the better of the sky boxes?
All the boxes have their own firmware, little more than a HAL with several API layers on top. Added to that comes middleware and finally the application.

The middleware and application are somewhat outside the hands of of the box vendors.

The Amstrad boxes are well known to have (or used to have) the best base firmware and middleware, making them less prone to random crashes. But equally prone to crashes in the application (which all other boxes were too).

I switched to cable about 3 years ago (cos it's cheaper ) so they may have gone down hill since.
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Old 23 June 2008, 01:48   #18
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I hate to break it to you Fred, but Amstrad are still going strong.
Yea, but it is not in the computer market anymore. Yeah, they make Set top boxes for TV cables.
But "geeks" like Gates, Jobs, Dell, etc are vastly more successful. I just think his statement was rude and arrogant.
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Zetro,

Hey Mate, I've got a lot of respect for Sir Clive,

But Sugar he's just always profited from everyone else's ideas by regurgitating them without respecting the quality, source / origin or the end consumer.

I would happily stuff that Hot rod C5 up his arse, power it up and then tell the B**tard "Your Fired!"

Sir "Talk a load of boll**ks" Alan

God he makes my blood boil... Utter asshole.

TC
He's the British Jack Tramiel.

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Tramiel had the exact same attitude towards his engineers / "geeks", and the C=64 only existed 'cos the Jew was afraid of the Japs, and wanted to make a quick buck.

He didn't give a shit, either. C=64 was something he could "just sell" (his words).
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