Cannot load some dms files in WinUAE

16 May 2010, 14:25

Hi there,

I'm having problems loading certain disk images in WinUAE.

I wanted to see the old Stag slideshows for nostalgia purposes (ahem). I want to see just what it was that surprised and shocked me so much as an innocent 13 year old on my schoolfriend's Amiga...

Anyway, when I attach the stag .dms images, nothing happens. I just stay on the workbench screen (with the floppy disk insert animation) and nothing actually starts to load...?

Can anyone help please? I think the cause is likely to be something simple (and I have managed to load other .adf files of games and stuff previously using this emulator).

I've also tried the loading the same things with WinFellow and in there they do load but the first one had garbled graphics with most of the screen being displayed like a negative photograph and the others just brought up red text saying there wasn't enough memory and I should try again (I did but the same thing happened).

Thanks!

Toni Wilen · 16 May 2010, 15:27

Can't really help without exact same test image(s).

17 May 2010, 04:16

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Can't really help without exact same test image(s).

There are only one set of these dms images doing the rounds though? The ones labelled 'BNK_TEAM'?

I've seen some other disc images of genuine games do this though - just pause at the workbench screen without actually loading anything. Could it just be how the emulator is set up? (ie. incorrectly?).

Toni Wilen · 17 May 2010, 08:12

Most likely requires more memory if it stops loading at WB CLI screen (it can't be DMS issue). Usual reason is too many extra floppy drives enabled and/or wrong memory configuration enabled.

StingRay · 17 May 2010, 14:09

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Originally Posted by anthonyhead

I've seen some other disc images of genuine games do this though - just pause at the workbench screen without actually loading anything. Could it just be how the emulator is set up? (ie. incorrectly?).

Most probably your disk images are broken (thus WinUAE's built-in DMS decruncher won't decrunch them), try to depack them on a real Amiga if you have the possibility and check if DMS reports any error. If you can't do that, it'll help if you upload one of your disks here so they can be checked.

Toni Wilen · 17 May 2010, 14:21

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Originally Posted by StingRay

Most probably your disk images are broken (thus WinUAE's built-in DMS decruncher won't decrunch them), try to depack them on a real Amiga if you have the possibility and check if DMS reports any error. If you can't do that, it'll help if you upload one of your disks here so they can be checked.

Probably not because it would cause non-boot or disk error requesters, it is near-guaranteed to be out of memory situation

StingRay · 17 May 2010, 14:24

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Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Probably not because it would cause non-boot or disk error requesters, it is near-guaranteed to be out of memory situation

I'm not sure.

This:

Quote:

Originally Posted by anthonyhead

Anyway, when I attach the stag .dms images, nothing happens. I just stay on the workbench screen (with the floppy disk insert animation) and nothing actually starts to load...?

sounds to me as if the images aren't undms'ed at all. =)

Toni Wilen · 17 May 2010, 14:26

Quote:

just pause at the workbench screen without actually loading anything

I assumed this means it did boot but then nothing happened. (WB = either CLI screen or WB was closed but main program didn't load)

This is confusing

prowler · 17 May 2010, 14:43

Hi,

I have uploaded the complete BNK_STAG set of disks to the Zone in .DMS format for everyone to try with WinUAE.

Hanzi · 17 May 2010, 22:14

They all work . Tested with A500, A600 and A1200 emulation.

prowler · 17 May 2010, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

I have uploaded the complete BNK_STAG set of disks to the Zone in .DMS format for everyone to try with WinUAE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanzi

They all work . Tested with A500, A600 and A1200 emulation.

Mclane · 18 May 2010, 11:20

I think there's a bug in the emulation, there's a bit where Ron Jeremy isn't a big fat bald blob

andreas · 18 May 2010, 14:11

anthonyhead, would be damn interesting to know which WinUAE version you're using?

Indeed the old ones had no "bug" but required xdms to be e. g. in the system32 path because it was not internally supported. But that was some time ago

Yet we had some peeps here in 1.6 times who - on request - confided the "secret" that they were still using 0.9.xx, so nothing will surprise me anymore

20 May 2010, 03:41

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Originally Posted by prowler

Hi,

I have uploaded the complete BNK_STAG set of disks to the Zone in .DMS format for everyone to try with WinUAE.

I appreciate that. I joined that group but where the fudge is 'The Zone'. I feel like this is some sort of running joke that I don't get...! Seriously though, how do I get to it?

Thanks

Graham Humphrey · 20 May 2010, 08:53

Look at the top right hand side of the page.

21 May 2010, 20:43

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Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

Look at the top right hand side of the page.

Jeez, I can't believe I missed it for so long! Does it only show up when you're logged in?

Thanks, I'll try the disks at some point.

prowler · 21 May 2010, 21:05

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Originally Posted by anthonyhead

Jeez, I can't believe I missed it for so long! Does it only show up when you're logged in?

Yes, it's one of the exclusive benefits of registration!

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Originally Posted by anthonyhead

Thanks, I'll try the disks at some point.

You're welcome. Don't forget to let us know how you get on.

31 May 2010, 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler

You're welcome. Don't forget to let us know how you get on.

Thanks, I tried the disks and again they failed to load...

I;m going to download a new version of WinUae and try again soon.
I'll let you guys know if that fixes this long-standing problem (I've had a lot of trouble loading certain other disk images in this emulator - i.e. even commercial games).

NewDeli · 31 May 2010, 05:40

I unpacked the .dms files into plain .adf's and uploaded the lot into the zone. Not saying it is a problem with dms format you're experiencing, but may be it could be worth checking that way.
Also, I played the first two movie excerpts from the dms with latest beta, didn't experience any issue with them.

WinUAE bears compatibility settings that you can trigger via the Quickstart tab options (check start in QuickStart mode and choose the Amiga model you want to emulate -in this case A500, make sure the rom scanner in "Paths" doesn't report the corresponding Kickstart missing)

16 May 2010, 14:25	#1
anthonyhead Posts: n/a	Cannot load some dms files in WinUAE Hi there, I'm having problems loading certain disk images in WinUAE. I wanted to see the old Stag slideshows for nostalgia purposes (ahem). I want to see just what it was that surprised and shocked me so much as an innocent 13 year old on my schoolfriend's Amiga... Anyway, when I attach the stag .dms images, nothing happens. I just stay on the workbench screen (with the floppy disk insert animation) and nothing actually starts to load...? Can anyone help please? I think the cause is likely to be something simple (and I have managed to load other .adf files of games and stuff previously using this emulator). I've also tried the loading the same things with WinFellow and in there they do load but the first one had garbled graphics with most of the screen being displayed like a negative photograph and the others just brought up red text saying there wasn't enough memory and I should try again (I did but the same thing happened). Thanks! Last edited by anthonyhead; 17 May 2010 at 04:20.

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16 May 2010, 15:27	#2
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Can't really help without exact same test image(s).

17 May 2010, 08:12	#4
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,505	Most likely requires more memory if it stops loading at WB CLI screen (it can't be DMS issue). Usual reason is too many extra floppy drives enabled and/or wrong memory configuration enabled.

17 May 2010, 14:43	#9
prowler Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sidcup, England Posts: 10,300	Hi, I have uploaded the complete BNK_STAG set of disks to the Zone in .DMS format for everyone to try with WinUAE.

17 May 2010, 22:14	#10
Hanzi Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Denmark Age: 70 Posts: 75	They all work . Tested with A500, A600 and A1200 emulation.

18 May 2010, 11:20	#12
Mclane Old retro god. Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northolt, West London Age: 62 Posts: 857	I think there's a bug in the emulation, there's a bit where Ron Jeremy isn't a big fat bald blob

18 May 2010, 14:11	#13
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	anthonyhead, would be damn interesting to know which WinUAE version you're using? Indeed the old ones had no "bug" but required xdms to be e. g. in the system32 path because it was not internally supported. But that was some time ago Yet we had some peeps here in 1.6 times who - on request - confided the "secret" that they were still using 0.9.xx, so nothing will surprise me anymore

20 May 2010, 08:53	#15
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Look at the top right hand side of the page.

31 May 2010, 05:40	#19
NewDeli Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Paris / FRANCE Age: 50 Posts: 1,248	I unpacked the .dms files into plain .adf's and uploaded the lot into the zone. Not saying it is a problem with dms format you're experiencing, but may be it could be worth checking that way. Also, I played the first two movie excerpts from the dms with latest beta, didn't experience any issue with them. WinUAE bears compatibility settings that you can trigger via the Quickstart tab options (check start in QuickStart mode and choose the Amiga model you want to emulate -in this case A500, make sure the rom scanner in "Paths" doesn't report the corresponding Kickstart missing)

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