64-bit WinUAE? - Page 2

Marcuz · 10 May 2005, 21:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Three years? I usually update once a year

if you like to i can get rid of all that encoumbering stuff on your floor.
just you would have to pay for the shipping and a little more for the great service done
let's say for a meek 500 euros i can get away your pcs

Charlie · 16 June 2005, 19:01

I seem to remember a post from Bernie Meyer on another forum reciently that he was quite keen on 64bit.
Something to do with the huge address space of 64bit chips allowing for a much more efficient ( MUCH faster & more elegantly written ) JIT-core making use of mmu addressed lookup tables from what I remember.
I got the impression he saw this as the main feature that would allow a better core rather than the extra raw processing speed of 64bit.
Sadly for Amiga emulation this core wasn't necessarily going to be 68k.

May be of interest to this thread.
Apologies to Bernie if my memory is only vaguely correct.

Charlie.

16 June 2005, 19:20

i have thaught of a use for 64 bit process. two 32 bit environments one for each eye in a fully 3d (stereovision - goggles that flash left and right real quick) environment at home on your pc.

Toni Wilen · 06 July 2005, 18:27

Status report:

64-bit WinUAE compiles and runs.

- no JIT
- stack magic and bsdsocket ported (took ages and was really painfull..)
- Z3fast maximum is 2G. Useless feature? I think so too

- can't use catweasel, ipf-images etc.. because of missing 64-bit drivers/libraries.

also dual core AMD64 installed

tomcat666 · 07 July 2005, 08:06

Great stuff Toni !

So - whats the actual performance difference between the 64bit and normal version ? Worth persuing in the future ?

Methanoid · 07 July 2005, 10:29

I'dbe more interested to find an article that explains what performance benefit there is in Windows 32-bit vs Windows 64 !!!! That BEFORE woryying about WinUAE-x64

wizard66 · 28 July 2005, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Status report:

64-bit WinUAE compiles and runs.

- no JIT
- stack magic and bsdsocket ported (took ages and was really painfull..)
- Z3fast maximum is 2G. Useless feature? I think so too

- can't use catweasel, ipf-images etc.. because of missing 64-bit drivers/libraries.

also dual core AMD64 installed

Hi,
I have 2 flat screens and a catweasel (the new one).
If i bay myself a dualcore amd is it possible to give winuae 1 core ?
so i can use the other core for my pc?
I hope so, that's nice

mr_0rga5m · 16 January 2006, 02:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by wizard66

Hi,
I have 2 flat screens and a catweasel (the new one).
If i bay myself a dualcore amd is it possible to give winuae 1 core ?
so i can use the other core for my pc?
I hope so, that's nice

Well sortoff ..

Doc Mindie · 16 January 2006, 12:14

That would be neat.....giving UAE the full speed of one of the cores......

Now where did I put the 4000+ again....... :look :P

wizard66 · 06 April 2006, 17:12

So finaley after 6 months i have my amd dualcore 4400+ clocked@ 2420MHZ 1,14 volts idile 28 c' under full load 42c'.
And i'm useing it to also run winuae on a windows x64 system.
I have 2 monitors and assigned 1 core for winuae in windowed mode on one monitor. the other monitor is for use white the peecee.
it runs sweet i'm in love again. full speed on amiga and pc side. no stuttering in sounds just smooth sound and graphics.
I'm a very happy camper right now.. recomended...

Now it's just waiting for Toni for a x64 version (I hope) Just for that exstra BUZZzz..

Methanoid · 07 April 2006, 11:45

Sounds great. I have similar hardware (X2, dual DVI etc) and I fancy leaving WinUAE running my BBS all the time but didnt think to put it on its own screen!

wizard66 · 13 April 2006, 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methanoid

Sounds great. I have similar hardware (X2, dual DVI etc) and I fancy leaving WinUAE running my BBS all the time but didnt think to put it on its own screen!

Just try i't You have the best of 2 'systems' like that.

You have a good Amiga system and OYeah also a peecee aside.

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16 June 2005, 19:01	#22
Charlie . . Mouse . . Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nowhere Age: 55 Posts: 1,792	I seem to remember a post from Bernie Meyer on another forum reciently that he was quite keen on 64bit. Something to do with the huge address space of 64bit chips allowing for a much more efficient ( MUCH faster & more elegantly written ) JIT-core making use of mmu addressed lookup tables from what I remember. I got the impression he saw this as the main feature that would allow a better core rather than the extra raw processing speed of 64bit. Sadly for Amiga emulation this core wasn't necessarily going to be 68k. May be of interest to this thread. Apologies to Bernie if my memory is only vaguely correct. Charlie.

16 June 2005, 19:20	#23
cyclone Posts: n/a	i have thaught of a use for 64 bit process. two 32 bit environments one for each eye in a fully 3d (stereovision - goggles that flash left and right real quick) environment at home on your pc.

06 July 2005, 18:27	#24
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,526	Status report: 64-bit WinUAE compiles and runs. - no JIT - stack magic and bsdsocket ported (took ages and was really painfull..) - Z3fast maximum is 2G. Useless feature? I think so too - can't use catweasel, ipf-images etc.. because of missing 64-bit drivers/libraries. also dual core AMD64 installed

07 July 2005, 08:06	#25
tomcat666 Retro Freak Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Slovenia Age: 51 Posts: 1,648	Great stuff Toni ! So - whats the actual performance difference between the 64bit and normal version ? Worth persuing in the future ?

07 July 2005, 10:29	#26
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 58 Posts: 1,873	I'dbe more interested to find an article that explains what performance benefit there is in Windows 32-bit vs Windows 64 !!!! That BEFORE woryying about WinUAE-x64

16 January 2006, 12:14	#29
Doc Mindie In deep Trouble Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manchester, Made in Norway Age: 51 Posts: 841	That would be neat.....giving UAE the full speed of one of the cores...... Now where did I put the 4000+ again....... :look :P

06 April 2006, 17:12	#30
wizard66 FPGA Replay inside A590 Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Rotterdam/Netherlands Age: 57 Posts: 294	So finaley after 6 months i have my amd dualcore 4400+ clocked@ 2420MHZ 1,14 volts idile 28 c' under full load 42c'. And i'm useing it to also run winuae on a windows x64 system. I have 2 monitors and assigned 1 core for winuae in windowed mode on one monitor. the other monitor is for use white the peecee. it runs sweet i'm in love again. full speed on amiga and pc side. no stuttering in sounds just smooth sound and graphics. I'm a very happy camper right now.. recomended... Now it's just waiting for Toni for a x64 version (I hope) Just for that exstra BUZZzz..

07 April 2006, 11:45	#31
Methanoid Retired Quartex Sysop Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Roman Verulamium Age: 58 Posts: 1,873	Sounds great. I have similar hardware (X2, dual DVI etc) and I fancy leaving WinUAE running my BBS all the time but didnt think to put it on its own screen!

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