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Old 16 August 2013, 19:49   #1
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Can anyone explain this?

A600 with 1 meg trapdoor ram expansion.
With ram in Mortal kombat II would complain about needing 1meg of ram required. Booted it with relokick 1.4 and it ran. But there was no music. (thought MKII with 2megs had music)

A600 with 1meg expansion pulled. Wouldn't even boot with relockick and complained about not having enough memory.

My A500 with 1 meg runs it fine.

Any ideas to what could be happening.

It also cant detect all of my 3 externals floppy drives at once like the A500 could.

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Old 16 August 2013, 20:56   #2
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just a guess, it may require ram at $c00000 which the A600 doesn't have
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Old 16 August 2013, 21:29   #3
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It doesn't but the check for extended memory is really bad and buggy, see my comment here.
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Old 16 August 2013, 21:33   #4
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Nevermind. Got to the bottom of this with some help. Seems that disabling the floppies at boot gets round this problem. But, still having problems with fightin spirit on one of the drives. I have to say. If you want a classic system (ECS/OCS) running floppies I think I prefer my ol A500 to the A600. I've had nothing but trouble with it. I also just found out how memory hungry relokick is too!
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Old 16 August 2013, 23:06   #5
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A600 with 1 meg trapdoor ram expansion.
With ram in Mortal kombat II would complain about needing 1meg of ram required. Booted it with relokick 1.4 and it ran. But there was no music. (thought MKII with 2megs had music)

A600 with 1meg expansion pulled. Wouldn't even boot with relockick and complained about not having enough memory.

My A500 with 1 meg runs it fine.

Any ideas to what could be happening.

It also cant detect all of my 3 externals floppy drives at once like the A500 could.

Regards
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MKII with only 1mb runs with music
with 2mb adds more sound effects
the game should work fine on the A600 without any expansion (only 1mb chip)
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Old 17 August 2013, 21:13   #6
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I have 2 Amiga 500s running in 1 meg and I never got any music.
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Old 17 August 2013, 21:17   #7
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I had A500 and MKII had music. Maybe you need to remove external floppy drive to free some memory.
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Old 18 August 2013, 18:43   #8
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just a guess, it may require ram at $c00000 which the A600 doesn't have
I wish I could understand stuff like that

I never had an A500 but back in the days I could every game I wanted on my 2MB chip RAM A600 with Relokick if needed. I also had an extra external FD.

But I do recall there was a game where I had to remove the 1MB RAM expansion in order to play.... I can't remember the game though... Speedball 2?

Ofcourse I didn't play all games back then so could be more incompatible.

I did play MK2 without any problems though.
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Old 19 August 2013, 00:12   #9
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I had A500 and MKII had music. Maybe you need to remove external floppy drive to free some memory.
even with external floppy drive MK2 plays with music in the A500+1mb
playing this game using only 1 floppy is impossible or horrible

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I have 2 Amiga 500s running in 1 meg and I never got any music.
then your copy of the game is bad, MK2 features music with 1mb I guarantee

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then your copy of the game is bad, MK2 features music with 1mb I guarantee
I think s2325 just answered my question but I wont remove the drives as this game has the worst disk swapping in (amiga) history and I thought Final fight was bad! I'll just stick to playing it on my A1200. It manages to run it with all music and all floppies and it currently only has 2mb. Maybe because its not using a 1mb expansion? I dunno
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So MKII works on your A1200 with all music and such?

I am almost 100% sure it worked on my A600 2MB with external floppy drive. It's over 17 years ago but still..
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I think s2325 just answered my question but I wont remove the drives as this game has the worst disk swapping in (amiga) history and I thought Final fight was bad! I'll just stick to playing it on my A1200. It manages to run it with all music and all floppies and it currently only has 2mb. Maybe because its not using a 1mb expansion? I dunno
MK2 is not the worst disk swapping disk on Amiga..play dragons lair or space ace series and you will see the hell

playing MK2 with 2 floppy drives is enough for a good experience, it happens that ancient crackers cracked this game in 4 disks, the original one is 3 disks and is much faster,
Having the original game you only need disk 2 and 3 inserted, almost never you will swap disks
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Old 20 August 2013, 12:56   #13
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MK2 is not the worst disk swapping disk on Amiga..play dragons lair or space ace series and you will see the hell
Neither of those are that bad.

Monkey Island 2 (11 disks)
Indiana Jones & The Fate of Atlantis (11 disks)
Willy Beamish (12 disks)
Beneath a Steel Sky (15 disks)
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I think the frequency of the disk swaps is more annoying than the number of disks. Final fight isn't too bad but it had a swap bang in the middle of gameplay on level 2.
MKII you have to swap disks what seems like 15 times before you even play the game!
I did own Monkey island 2 back in the day and I remember what a pain that was compared to the first one.
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