04 February 2010, 22:44 | #1 |
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Life and Death - Working version?
I've played several versions of Life and Death but it seems they all "crash" at the end of the second operation (Aneurysm Grafting).
Having repaired the aorta, I want to suture up the patient but immediately the assistants start making a fuzz about me not making the suture on the wound (which is not true!). Still, I can finish the operation (the assistants complaining all the way to the end) and the Chief of Surgery will be outraged, sending me to medical class. There, they'll teach me procedures I followed perfectly well during the operation (thanks a lot!). Does anyone know of a working version of this game? By "working", I mean: - It's possible to succeed the Aneurysm Grafting (and thereby complete the game). - The medical team you choose for the operation will actually show up. For instance: If you choose Danielson and Brewer, Manglier and Menzies will assist you. What's up with that?! |
04 February 2010, 22:52 | #2 |
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I'm assuming you are using a adf version?
Have you tried whdload?, I'm sure theres a good working version on whdownload http://www.whdownload.com/games.php?...hButton=Search Last edited by Kitty; 04 February 2010 at 22:57. |
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Hi Kitty.
I've tried IPF, ADFs and WHDLoad-versions. The IPF-version is an original (I suppose) as the copy protection is still working. I thought it might have something to do with a badly cracked version, but appartently not. The problems (medical staff + failing the last operation) are still there... |
05 February 2010, 00:45 | #4 |
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Hi adalsgaard
I think considering your experiencing the same problem on all image types, it makes me think it may be your setup in winuae and not actually a problem with the image at all. What configuration are you using to play the game? |
06 February 2010, 12:24 | #5 |
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Hi Kitty.
Configuration (WinUAE 1.5.0): Model: A500 CPU: 68000 Chipset: OCS KS ROM: 1.3 RAM: Chip=512K, Slow=512K I can't imagine why the setup would influence on medical staff choices . Anyway, if someone can confirm that they ever completed the game (with the medical staff of their own choice), then it's a different matter. |
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The version of winuae you are using is very old, winuae is on version 2.01 now and many things have been fixed since the version you are using so a new version will more than likely fix your problem, also the latest beta may be worth trying too ;-)
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06 February 2010, 23:08 | #7 |
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As I suspected, the WinUAE version had nothing to do with it.
The problem must within the game itself... Did anyone ever complete the game? |
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Still, I'm still looking for a version of the game making it possible to complete the Aneurysm Grafting operation. I'm pretty sure that the "you-missed-the-wound-with-that-suture"-statement is a bug since it's no suture problem playing the PC version. But hey... I would love for someone to tell me about the wound I apparently didn't suture prior to closing the aorta (that is: If I'm mistaken about a bug being present). |
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11 March 2010, 04:28 | #9 |
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All that speculating does not make much sense.
Nonetheless, an assumption: I'd say the "bug" occurs because the game does an internal code jump (to the "suture failure" routine) which is not supposed to occur, maybe by erroneously jumping to a wrong offset. You found yourself that it is not due to a bad crack, because the issue is reproducible on the IPF (unmodified original!) version too. However, a REAL THING test has to come into effect. If it works on real Amiga, then it's indeed a WinUAE bug. Without a test on the real machine, nothing can (nor should) be judged about the matter. Last edited by andreas; 11 March 2010 at 04:37. |
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Anyone interested in testing this on a real Amiga? Any other suggestions on how to solve the problem? |
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18 March 2010, 13:26 | #11 |
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oh my god, you just so made me want to play this again!! didn't play it for years...last time I tried was on PC using DosBox, but game crashed to desktop randomly during surgeries, I never managed to complete a single one.
Didn't know (and didn't really think/care to check) about an Amiga version, I'm gonna give it a go I don't own a real Amiga so I won't be able to test it myself, but count on me for updating this post, even if only to confirm the bug you're reporting. And also count on me to be part of the "Life & Death working version Lobby" if indeed I (and I probably will) face the same bug Any sweetheart to try the game on a real machine to help us apprentice surgeons out? |
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Hi guys, so if anyone want to have "Life & death" as real deal with extras, package, manuals and disks, just send me a pm, because i´m thinking about selling this game, because it doesn´t fit to my collection.
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18 March 2010, 15:47 | #13 |
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hehe thanks for the offer, but I can't push the walls any further....I'm lacking room!!!
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18 March 2010, 16:15 | #14 |
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I understand .. i have the same problem..
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24 March 2010, 11:13 | #15 |
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Damn it, this game is still hard! I'm done with the first surgery, finally
will let you know how it goes adalsgaard |
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Hi Nostalgeek.
How's the aneurysm grafting coming along? I'm curious whether the suturing will mess your chances of succes. Hopefully not. |
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Hey adalsgaard,
Been busy on many things lately, didn't play much....and when I did it wasn't L&D but I'll definitely give it a go one day or another and keep you posted! |
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11 years later
Is there a solution for this bug? Maybe a newer version? I also could not finish the second operations, having the same issues as adalsgaard. Anybody ever did finish this game? Cheers MilkToast |
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I remember this bug from the days when it came out. The bug was present back then too.
I never got a working version of this game... A few years ago i searched YouTube for longsplays of this game, but there are none with the Amiga-version, at least not with that operation. They exist for for the DOS-version though.... |
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You wont believe it, but I managed to get it right.
I am not sure yet what I did...but it worked. Will do some more test tomorrow. |
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