should I develop a new gfx-ripper?

bLAZER · 30 June 2007, 01:05

The GUI in gfx-rip isn't that great.... so I was thinking of making a new app with some nice interface, probably developed in c++, heavily based on the source code from gfxrip. Should I do it, or is it any other program that rips graphics that doesn't scream out DOS?

Zetr0 · 30 June 2007, 02:41

@bLAZER
I think it would be great ot have another program to choose from, I used to love ripping graphics and mods in the day, but i have not time to write my own.

If i could ask for one feature from a gfx ripper it would be plane align. where by you can allign the planes from a selected area or even skip planes..

so if i found a mass of junk i suspect to be a tile map, i can then use this feature to calcualte the next bit plane position and overlay in a window or box, as the use you can specify wich planes to show and skip from memory, as some programs could have a lot of data between planes so a feature where you can specify a size and a plane offset for teh top corner would be fantastic...

indeed the posibilites for features are endless, and more specifically i am sure you have some cool ideas of your own.

bLAZER · 30 June 2007, 03:20

Thanks for the input. I can't say I know that much about bitplanes and graphics on the amiga however I'm willing to learn =)... I just wanted to make a more normal program that can be used without having to remember 23 keys... I have started to play around a bit, so I'll see if it can do anything more than just showing a grey empy window in a couple o days...

Joe Maroni · 30 June 2007, 18:29

IMHO i prefer to use GfxRip, because you can change the values faster with the keys...

alternative to the keys you can add little fields to direct input the values...but please don´t delete the key usage...

good luck...if you have problems with understanding amiga graphics and bitplanes feel free to ask me...

bLAZER · 30 June 2007, 19:05

I was planning of keeping the shortcut keys as some may prefer them... Though I thinks sliders are faster actually for some things...

I have made a very basic version that actually does something. Get it at http://andreas.blazer.nu/DeluxeGfxRipper.zip

It probably needs some libs, so try it out and tell me what lib it needs if any.

bLAZER · 01 July 2007, 03:23

Did some more work, now with multiple bitplanes, palette finding and some other stuff.

http://andreas.blazer.nu/DeluxeGfxRipper.zip

Joe Maroni · 01 July 2007, 11:42

it seems that the app needs the "QtCore4.dll" which is part of the QT GUI...

don´t you think its the same like Allegro that Tomcat666 used for the original GfxRip ??

and please include the dll to the archive as many don´t like to search for it on their own...

bLAZER · 01 July 2007, 14:48

ok, new version, now with bitplanes order. http://andreas.blazer.nu/DeluxeGfxRipper.zip

Also now the dll:s are included.

What do you mean it's the same as Allegro? It is a library like Allegro yes, but far more superior afaik. The point was to make a more user-friendly program, not to make a program that doesn't use libraries...

Well, try it out, most of the functionality from Gfxrip 1.07 is there now.

BippyM · 01 July 2007, 14:56

This sounds really good and if you are open to suggestions then it could be awesome

bLAZER · 01 July 2007, 15:18

Of course I'm open for suggestions, so spill'em out

BippyM · 01 July 2007, 15:21

Okay to how about some settings where I can set default paths for savestates and also for saving output

Also let the program remember the location I opened a file from so I don't have to navigate there everytime

bLAZER · 01 July 2007, 23:33

Sure, good ones, I also gonna add drag-and-drop support for files.

bLAZER · 02 July 2007, 16:30

New version, 0.4:

Drag and drop files

Most of the shortcut keys from GfxRip

Recent file list

Specify default directory for opening files (edit settings.ini for now, there are no preferences window)

http://andreas.blazer.nu/DeluxeGfxRipper.zip

Joe Maroni · 02 July 2007, 19:41

hey i like it more and more...

keep your work on....

BippyM · 02 July 2007, 19:48

This is looking good..

The sliders move too much tho and I have to use keyboard for small increments (x size etc).. Can this be fixed?

Joe Maroni · 02 July 2007, 21:26

yeah...bip is right and the x-Size is limited to 3200 pixels...i have randomly tilesets with a width of more than 17000 (!) pixels...

please fix this too....

Predseda · 02 July 2007, 21:49

x_to's soft was VERY helpful while creating Puttymoon, the GREAT piece of soft, I think!

Joe Maroni · 02 July 2007, 22:09

thanks for the flowers, but why do many people think that i wrote GfxRip

it is an original by tomcat666 who is member a member at EAB too...

i just wrote LvlRip which is a program to create gamemaps for the HOL..

honour tomcat666 who made all this possible, not me...i just ripped many gfx 2-3 years ago when i was jobless...

but good to know that the program was used to build the website...

bLAZER · 03 July 2007, 00:01

bippy: yeah, I know that they may move too fast sometimes... I don't know quite how to solve that...besides using the keys for small increments...

x_to: yeah I just put it to 3200, because after 800 it gets slower and slower (must be some kind of bug by me) and also I can't set it to unlimited (and the higher it is set the less fine tuning can be done dragging the slider)... some tough gui decisions here for sure...

blindfold · 03 July 2007, 18:31

Hi.
There is ONE thing, you can actually implement: it is some kind of "saving ripper state" system. That way people can send each othertheir settings how they ripped some gfx, or save for later use, without writing down everyhing on paper.

And well... using allegro sucks on windows.:/

30 June 2007, 01:05	#1
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	should I develop a new gfx-ripper? The GUI in gfx-rip isn't that great.... so I was thinking of making a new app with some nice interface, probably developed in c++, heavily based on the source code from gfxrip. Should I do it, or is it any other program that rips graphics that doesn't scream out DOS?

02 July 2007, 16:30	#13
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	New version, 0.4: Drag and drop files Most of the shortcut keys from GfxRip Recent file list Specify default directory for opening files (edit settings.ini for now, there are no preferences window) http://andreas.blazer.nu/DeluxeGfxRipper.zip

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30 June 2007, 02:41	#2
Zetr0 Ya' like it Retr0? Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 49 Posts: 9,768	@bLAZER I think it would be great ot have another program to choose from, I used to love ripping graphics and mods in the day, but i have not time to write my own. If i could ask for one feature from a gfx ripper it would be plane align. where by you can allign the planes from a selected area or even skip planes.. so if i found a mass of junk i suspect to be a tile map, i can then use this feature to calcualte the next bit plane position and overlay in a window or box, as the use you can specify wich planes to show and skip from memory, as some programs could have a lot of data between planes so a feature where you can specify a size and a plane offset for teh top corner would be fantastic... indeed the posibilites for features are endless, and more specifically i am sure you have some cool ideas of your own.

30 June 2007, 03:20	#3
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Thanks for the input. I can't say I know that much about bitplanes and graphics on the amiga however I'm willing to learn =)... I just wanted to make a more normal program that can be used without having to remember 23 keys... I have started to play around a bit, so I'll see if it can do anything more than just showing a grey empy window in a couple o days...

30 June 2007, 18:29	#4
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 1,303	IMHO i prefer to use GfxRip, because you can change the values faster with the keys... alternative to the keys you can add little fields to direct input the values...but please don´t delete the key usage... good luck...if you have problems with understanding amiga graphics and bitplanes feel free to ask me...

30 June 2007, 19:05	#5
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	I was planning of keeping the shortcut keys as some may prefer them... Though I thinks sliders are faster actually for some things... I have made a very basic version that actually does something. Get it at http://andreas.blazer.nu/DeluxeGfxRipper.zip It probably needs some libs, so try it out and tell me what lib it needs if any.

01 July 2007, 03:23	#6
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Did some more work, now with multiple bitplanes, palette finding and some other stuff. http://andreas.blazer.nu/DeluxeGfxRipper.zip

01 July 2007, 11:42	#7
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 1,303	it seems that the app needs the "QtCore4.dll" which is part of the QT GUI... don´t you think its the same like Allegro that Tomcat666 used for the original GfxRip ?? and please include the dll to the archive as many don´t like to search for it on their own...

01 July 2007, 14:48	#8
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	ok, new version, now with bitplanes order. http://andreas.blazer.nu/DeluxeGfxRipper.zip Also now the dll:s are included. What do you mean it's the same as Allegro? It is a library like Allegro yes, but far more superior afaik. The point was to make a more user-friendly program, not to make a program that doesn't use libraries... Well, try it out, most of the functionality from Gfxrip 1.07 is there now.

01 July 2007, 14:56	#9
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	This sounds really good and if you are open to suggestions then it could be awesome

01 July 2007, 15:18	#10
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Of course I'm open for suggestions, so spill'em out

01 July 2007, 15:21	#11
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	Okay to how about some settings where I can set default paths for savestates and also for saving output Also let the program remember the location I opened a file from so I don't have to navigate there everytime

01 July 2007, 23:33	#12
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Sure, good ones, I also gonna add drag-and-drop support for files.

02 July 2007, 19:41	#14
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 1,303	hey i like it more and more... keep your work on....

02 July 2007, 19:48	#15
BippyM Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Derby, UK Age: 48 Posts: 9,355	This is looking good.. The sliders move too much tho and I have to use keyboard for small increments (x size etc).. Can this be fixed?

02 July 2007, 21:26	#16
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 1,303	yeah...bip is right and the x-Size is limited to 3200 pixels...i have randomly tilesets with a width of more than 17000 (!) pixels... please fix this too....

02 July 2007, 21:49	#17
Predseda Puttymoon inhabitant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tromaville Age: 46 Posts: 7,540	x_to's soft was VERY helpful while creating Puttymoon, the GREAT piece of soft, I think!

02 July 2007, 22:09	#18
Joe Maroni Moderator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Germany Age: 44 Posts: 1,303	thanks for the flowers, but why do many people think that i wrote GfxRip it is an original by tomcat666 who is member a member at EAB too... i just wrote LvlRip which is a program to create gamemaps for the HOL.. honour tomcat666 who made all this possible, not me...i just ripped many gfx 2-3 years ago when i was jobless... but good to know that the program was used to build the website...

03 July 2007, 00:01	#19
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	bippy: yeah, I know that they may move too fast sometimes... I don't know quite how to solve that...besides using the keys for small increments... x_to: yeah I just put it to 3200, because after 800 it gets slower and slower (must be some kind of bug by me) and also I can't set it to unlimited (and the higher it is set the less fine tuning can be done dragging the slider)... some tough gui decisions here for sure...

03 July 2007, 18:31	#20
blindfold Zone Friend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Basement/Gdansk/Poland Posts: 86	Hi. There is ONE thing, you can actually implement: it is some kind of "saving ripper state" system. That way people can send each othertheir settings how they ripped some gfx, or save for later use, without writing down everyhing on paper. And well... using allegro sucks on windows.:/

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