Legacy of Sorasil

[Steve]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

And if you read the thread carefully you'll also find out about the mysterious Wiki credit for Legacy of Sorasil

I know!

I edited my post before I even saw your response. My point remains valid though. The Wikipedia addition needs to be removed!

[TCD]

Can only edited the game list and links it seems. Maybe I need to login to do that. Maybe it should be edited to say Mad Professor Mariarti instead.

[Steve]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Any chance to contact someone from Gremlin Galahad?

I have managed to get in contact with the musician for Legacy of Sorasil. Hopefully he can shed some light on the mystery...

[TCD]

Originally Posted by Steve

I have managed to get in contact with the musician for Legacy of Sorasil. Hopefully he can shed some light on the mystery...

Nice one Steve

[dlfrsilver]

I have removed the entry on Matt Furniss Wikipedia's page

[mailman]

Originally Posted by lilalurl

Ah, that sure is a stylized F.

For me it looks like T but I won't argue. There are more of you

@thread

No offence taken by your joke. Chill out dudes

[lilalurl]

Originally Posted by mailman

For me it looks like T but I won't argue. There are more of you

Actually, my sentence meant, in other words, "ah, if that is a F, it sure is stylized", meaning that the artist went a bit crazy on making such a letter if that is indeed a F.

I see a Y-mirrored F rather than anything else. But it may depend on how you draw hand-written capital letters.
Is it something that vary from country to country?

If it was not for the line in the middle of the letter, I could indeed see something close to one of the ways of writing a capital T that I know of.



Oh, and Steve, nice technique to increase your post count

[Steve]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Nice one Steve

Wicked, I got a reply from Patrick.

Hi Steve.

Mat was an artist at Gremlin. He's now a lead character artist at EA. There are two Mat F's.

Hope this helps.

He was at Gremlin between "1994-2001? (was Infogrames at one point). He left to go to Core after that and worked on Tomb Raider, then Circle and then back to Sumo (ex Gremlin) - then off to EA."

Well that explains it then.

[TCD]

Thanks for the confirmation Steve Two Matt Furniss then. Really a funny coincidence

[lilalurl]

Thanks Steve. Now the fun part will be to find which games are credited to Matt the musician while they should be credited to Matt the non-musician.

Hopefully, with the exception of Mad Professor Mariarti, one can suppose that if the credits are for something else than music/SFX, the non-musician Matt should be credited.

[Galahad/FLT]

Originally Posted by Steve

Wicked, I got a reply from Patrick.





Well that explains it then.

Vindicated

[andreas]

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Thanks for the confirmation Steve Two Matt Furniss then. Really a funny coincidence

Or even: one Mat Furniss, and one Matt Furniss

Maybe Patrick is right and the non-musician Furniss spells his given name with only one 't'. That's how Patrick spelled it in his mail Steve kindly quoted for us.

[lilalurl]

Unlikely I guess judging from:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/matt-furniss/2/649/74b
Matt Furniss at EA. I guess that's him.

Anyone with a LinkedIn account and willing to contact him?

[TCD]

Well, the box/manual credits say Matt and the ingame credits Matthew. I think it should be Matthew Furniss to distinguish the two.

[andreas]

Well, check Iron Hand: http://hol.abime.net/5000

2 John Smiths, too.
Would not be a problem to have Matt Furniss [1] and Matt Furniss [2] in HOL.

Thanks everybody!
I'm a little ambitious person and I always like it if HOL is the first to have this correct! :P

Please do not forget since (just!) a few years we can do artist biographies. So we can do two independent artists' notes now. Coolish!! But soon a certain site called something like MelonAgima will follow

[edit] This has been done:
http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?find=furniss

BUT: Apart from Legacy of Sorasil, the graphic artist Furniss [II] does not seem to have worked on any other Amiga game! Yes, I went thru them all 60 to be sure. It would really be a good idea to ask Furniss [II] what other Amiga games he worked on! Maybe even some that were never released?

[lilalurl]

I see you have already done the split. [edit: well, you edited when I was reading/replying]

Two things:
- May I suggest that you sort out the use of "working/worked" for Matt [II] on both descriptions.
- You should also update the credits for http://hol.abime.net/2373 (cf. interview)


Regarding Matt Furniss [II] he seems to have worked on other platforms at that time, for instance:
http://www.mobygames.com/game/atari-st/space-crusade

I agree with you that it would be very useful to have one or both Matts confirming or not the games they are credited for.


I'll take care of the mobygames entries for both of them (I will have fun trying to explain and sum up all the stuff to the moby approvers ) but I prefer to have as much details and confirmations as possible before to be sure, as I would like to avoid Wikipedian-like stuff to happen.

[andreas]

- "Mariarti" was already updated as you wrote.

- Now it's "worked" in both descriptions. Added the fact that he didn't quit at EA Thanks for the good eyes. Should be fine now.

I'll take care of the mobygames entries for both of them (I will have fun trying to explain and sum up all the stuff to the moby approvers)

Provided that HOL is not filled with unresourced nonsense but sticks to facts only, it may even be a worthy piece in the mosaic for fulfilling your task, may it not? Also as another reference source for the moby guys, I mean.
Not intending to brag, but HOL looks very professional to me now

[lilalurl]

Good job.

There is a small and not really important problem though, although not sure if that is under your control or not.
When you check http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?...&detail=artist, the link to M.F. II is listed first, which seems a bit illogical.

[Edit: checked the John Smith page and it seems to behave the same way]

Regarding HOL, of course I do think it is very well done and trustworthy.
Still, since both M.F. have been in the gaming industry for a long time, their works span a variety of platforms and as a consequence, having one (or the two) of them confirming what he has worked on would be the best solution, instead of going for: IF music THEN credit = M.F. I, IF graphic AND game <> Mad Professor Mariarti THEN credit = M.F. II (although given all the elements in this thread, it is very likely to be that way).

[andreas]

Please direct this inquiry to RCK, because he's the database man.

I could of course swap them both and "fix" the sorting issue, but for me it's also an importance thing: have a [II] for an artist who worked in 99% of the 60 games? That would be odd. Yet I do agree that they should be sorted correctly.

[Codetapper]

I think it looks really stupid with these numbers in brackets after the name. Can we not instead do something like:

Matt Furniss (musician)
Matt Furniss (gfx artist)

which would make it far more obvious which is which and not treat the guys as numbers?

I got this email from Matt the graphics artist the other day:

I often have to contact moby games to point out that I am the Artist Matt Furniss and not the Musician.
The thing is, I did release a number of Amiga titles back in the day (Heroquest, Utopia, and a few others i cant recall the names of) and a few Atari ST titles, there may have even been a time when Musician Matt may have provided audio support on a project for us whilst I was working at Gremlin Graphics ....but i have always been the Animator/Artist....never the musician (for good reason).

Hope this helps.

Matt.