XII from Alastair Murray

Good afternoon,

does somebody possess XII? Or ever played or heard of XII? It is a shooting-game for 4 players simultaneously. I am interested in all games that have the option to play it with 4 players at the same time. So I looked for every Amiga-game that makes it possible. There exists a list with every Amiga-Game that supports a 4-player joystick-adapter. I found and downloaded every game. XII is available on aminet, but does not work.
Until now I have not found a working configuration in WinUAE.
I have also transferred it to a 880kB Amiga disk. But the Original Amiga 500 and 1200 behave exactly the same (Finish all software activity... OR xec-library, xii failed returncode 20).
I asked the programmer Alastair Murray if he has a working version. But he lost all original files. I hope XII is not lost forever!

A!

[TurboRAKETTI]

Update:
XII isn't dead. I found the solution on https://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=3986 !
You need the right path, dh1:amos_stuff/xii/ AND you need the mathtrans.library AND KickROM 3.1.

A

[Predseda]

Yes, I noticed your comment there. That hardcoded path is a very lame error.

[rygar]

Originally Posted by TurboRAKETTI

Update:
XII isn't dead. I found the solution on https://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=3986 !
You need the right path, dh1:amos_stuff/xii/ AND you need the mathtrans.library AND KickROM 3.1.

If you don't mind i uploaded your file to TheZone.

[TurboRAKETTI]

Hi!

I tried to do this: assign dh1:amos_stuff/xii Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII, but it doesn't work. The message "invalid device name dh1:amos_stuff/xii" is shown while booting.

Isn't it possible to do so?


Thank you

[Don_Adan]

I dont remember exactly, but try like this:

assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII
cd dh1:
amos_stuff/xii

[Muzza]

Originally Posted by Predseda

Yes, I noticed your comment there. That hardcoded path is a very lame error.

It was written before the internet. Only ever played with a few of my friends on my own Amiga, so such things were not a concern.

[Predseda]

I know, but relative paths is just the basics in coding of everything

[Retroplay]

I upped an edited adf to zone.

Tested on an A500 (most common) + 68020 WinUAE config.
Anything below 020 will cause a software error.

[TurboRAKETTI]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

I dont remember exactly, but try like this:

assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII
cd dh1:
amos_stuff/xii

There are different errors shown:


assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII cd dh1:amos_stuff/xii = can't find cd



assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII c:cd dh1:amos_stuff/xii = can' find dh1:amos_stuff/xii


in 2 lines:

assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII
cd dh1:amos_stuff/xii = object in use



Sorry, I can't figure it out! I give up!
Thank you very much!

[Don_Adan]

Originally Posted by TurboRAKETTI

There are different errors shown:


assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII cd dh1:amos_stuff/xii = can't find cd



assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII c:cd dh1:amos_stuff/xii = can' find dh1:amos_stuff/xii


in 2 lines:

assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII
cd dh1:amos_stuff/xii = object in use



Sorry, I can't figure it out! I give up!
Thank you very much!

I wrote 3 lines. Why you try in 1 line or 2 lines?
1. first step assign dh1: to installed game/program
2. second step cd (change dir) to assigned dh1:
3. third step run game exe file

[Retroplay]

@TurboRaketti
Try the edited adf I put in the zone.

I added this assign to my startup-sequence (user startup) and it starts right up.
Assign >NIL: XII: DH1:Games/XII

[rygar]

Originally Posted by TurboRAKETTI

There are different errors shown:


assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII cd dh1:amos_stuff/xii = can't find cd



assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII c:cd dh1:amos_stuff/xii = can' find dh1:amos_stuff/xii


in 2 lines:

assign dh1: Festplatten:4-Spieler/Probleme/XII
cd dh1:amos_stuff/xii = object in use



Sorry, I can't figure it out! I give up!
Thank you very much!

Retroplay posted ready to use solution. What's wrong with his releases?

[TurboRAKETTI]

Originally Posted by Don_Adan

I wrote 3 lines. Why you try in 1 line or 2 lines?
1. first step assign dh1: to installed game/program
2. second step cd (change dir) to assigned dh1:
3. third step run game exe file

Sorry,
i did not notice that it is important to respect the exact syntax. Usually I know that I have to be precise.

[TurboRAKETTI]

Originally Posted by rygar

Retroplay posted ready to use solution. What's wrong with his releases?

There is nothing wrong! I also tried to start the game from a harddisk (Hardfile in WinUAE).
I have to admit that I forgot to tell that, sorry!!!

[Retroplay]

I upped the fixed adf to my user folder as
X II (1998-03-28)(Alastair Murray)(PD)[AMOS][68020].
Name and date is what's described on Aminet.
https://aminet.net/package/game/shoot/XII

[TCD]

Thank you I've also added it to 'Non TOSEC Games/Disk'.

[Amiga600]

I actually came across XII when I did a search for games by Alastair Murray, I know it tries to find files in a Hard Disk location, which is pretty useless if, say, you wanted to load this from a Floppy Disk, or another location or folder

So I had a poke around in the code, and managed to change this to "XII_GAME_DATA_DISK:" (yes I know it is a long name heh) which now can be Assign'ed to a folder or location

Therefore making the Game fully playable from any location, I hope Alastair Murray does not mind me doing this modification, But I want to help make the Game fully playable again

I have uploaded the Floppy Disk image in The Zone, please feel free to backup this image, ideally maybe replace the aminet version (if that is at all possible), as I would like to help everyone play this Game again

Incidentally, I am reviewing this game in August, so it will be included on my Games Collection and Amiga Forever RP9 Files for you all, Thanks

[TCD]

Thank you for the upload I've added the new disk image to the same folder on the file server.

[Amiga600]

Originally Posted by TCD

Thank you for the upload I've added the new disk image to the same folder on the file server.

Thanks for that TCD

I just hope it now allows many more to play this game, certainly without needing a hard disk, as it can now be basically installed anywhere provided the assignment is made before you run the game itself

As I am going through the many PD/SW/FW Games, I have found that quite a few seem to have rather daft directory paths and/or use DF0: as a path etc, to load the Game files from, which is quite useless nowadays, so I do like to try and modify them so they can be loaded from an assignment if possible, failing that many do work in a Generic WHDLoad if other methods fail