Conversion Capers: Rygar

[DamienD]

See my post here Dan: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...postcount=1362

I use an A1200 2Mb Chip 4Mb Fast RAM config (though I'm sure that's overkill) booting from a standard WB 3.1 .HDF.

[saimon69]

Originally Posted by DanScott

What config can I get this rygar/executable to run in WinUAE?

I have tried all the configs, memory configs, A500, A1200, ECS, OCS, AGA... it just crashes in every config I tried.

I am dying to see this

Are you using orignal ROMs? i realized Rygar seems not to like AROS roms no idea why

[sandruzzo]

Updated Rygar. Resolved some bugs when rygar jumo and fire. Check that out

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by sandruzzo

Updated Rygar. Resolved some bugs when rygar jumo and fire. Check that out

Wow, looks / sounds / plays awesome!!!

[sandruzzo]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Wow, looks / sounds / plays awesome!!!

Thanks man

[emufan]

plays good here too, cannot see any new problems.
one thing he still does not:
when he is crouching , he cannot turn to the opposite direction

[sandruzzo]

Originally Posted by emufan

plays good here too, cannot see any new problems.
one thing he still does not:
when he is crouching , he cannot turn to the opposite direction

I'll tackle all this things. Now I would like to add sfx to rygar, and control panel. We need to seee if have some horse power left. We're trying to test 64 colors!

[Trachu]

Originally Posted by sandruzzo

In order to have 4 separated layers, I have to reuse sprites, and have one line between them were nothing can be displayed. Hell of job! Maybe later

Are you sure about it. I was thinking that in the lines you just need to change dma pointers to different address in memory.
Indeed it would mean a lot of additional copper instructions in those lines, but only in those lines and the effect would be shockingly immpressive.

To simplify things i would set the speed like this.

First section change sprite position every 4th frame
Second section change sprite position every 3rd frame
Third section change sprite position every 2nd frame
Four section change sprite position every frame

As for the new Ryggar sprites.
The new set contain all original detail just remapped to new palette.
Every sprite occupy 32x32 block but i have moved each of the sprite to the left and i guess this is where you have problemm.
I did that in order to prepare for some speed optimisation here.
I noticed almost every ryggar sprite is not wider than 24pixels (expect when he dies where is 32px wide). This mean in half of it position you need to blit only 2 Times per 16px, while in the rest 3 Times.
For example

Case where you need only to make 2 blits
################ ################ bitplane data
################ ########__________ sprite data

Case where you need only to make 3 blits
################ ################ ################ bitplane data
_____________###### ################ ##__________________ sprite data

I can reposition every sprite in the middle of those first 24px if you say this optimisation is worth using.

[sandruzzo]

Originally Posted by Trachu

Are you sure about it. I was thinking that in the lines you just need to change dma pointers to different address in memory.
Indeed it would mean a lot of additional copper instructions in those lines, but only in those lines and the effect would be shockingly immpressive.

To simplify things i would set the speed like this.

First section change sprite position every 4th frame
Second section change sprite position every 3rd frame
Third section change sprite position every 2nd frame
Four section change sprite position every frame

As for the new Ryggar sprites.
The new set contain all original detail just remapped to new palette.
Every sprite occupy 32x32 block but i have moved each of the sprite to the left and i guess this is where you have problemm.
I did that in order to prepare for some speed optimisation here.
I noticed almost every ryggar sprite is not wider than 24pixels (expect when he dies where is 32px wide). This mean in half of it position you need to blit only 2 Times per 16px, while in the rest 3 Times.
For example

Case where you need only to make 2 blits
################ ################ bitplane data
################ ########__________ sprite data

Case where you need only to make 3 blits
################ ################ ################ bitplane data
_____________###### ################ ##__________________ sprite data

I can reposition every sprite in the middle of those first 24px if you say this optimisation is worth using.

Since we have to figure the worse scenario, so far we can skip this, since I have allways to blit 3 word in order to shift rygar. I'll left sprite parallax when all stable gfx is done, and speed test are made

[sandruzzo]

Waiting for control panel gfx

[DamienD]

Originally Posted by sandruzzo

Waiting for control panel gfx

Is that not these sandruzzo?

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...postcount=1367

...or do you need Trachu to modify further?

[sandruzzo]

Originally Posted by DamienD

Is that not these sandruzzo?

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...postcount=1367

...or do you need Trachu to modify further?

It's ok, but it must be modify a little bit

[Prosonic]

just had a go at the update and its plays really smooth, I did notice that when you bounce off a monsters head rygar doesn't flip but its a work in press, cant wait to see this when the monsters are moving at their correct different speeds or isn't this possible?

[sandruzzo]

Originally Posted by Prosonic

just had a go at the update and its plays really smooth, I did notice that when you bounce off a monsters head rygar doesn't flip but its a work in press, cant wait to see this when the monsters are moving at their correct different speeds or isn't this possible?

We miss some rygar frames

[dlfrsilver]

Originally Posted by sandruzzo

We miss some rygar frames

Sandruzzo, i sent you the full sprite sheet made from the arcade roms.

Which positions are missing if there are any ??

[sandruzzo]

Originally Posted by dlfrsilver

Sandruzzo, i sent you the full sprite sheet made from the arcade roms.

Which positions are missing if there are any ??

In the oldest sheet, I didn't have rygars' somersault

[dlfrsilver]

ah ok, so from my new sheet, you have them all then !

I looked today at the latest Amiga Rygar side to side to the Arcade version - it's just me or the Amiga version actually looks BETTER than the arcade one? I mean, the arcade got a flat blue sky over the mountains while the Amiga has a subtle blue gradient and some clouds!
Amazing work!
I had to disable CPU caches to get it running correctly on WinUAE, seemed fine nonethless.
Btw, I came across this video showing a running demo of Shadow of the Beast with technical info from the developers, [ Show youtube player ]
at one point it says "128 colors at once in the screen"
interesting
This means they counted the copper gradient effect in the 1st stage? Did it had 32 colors also? Sorry if this has been discussed previously here, just curious since Rygar seemed quite colorful too.

[sandruzzo]

Originally Posted by Aarbron

I looked today at the latest Amiga Rygar side to side to the Arcade version - it's just me or the Amiga version actually looks BETTER than the arcade one? I mean, the arcade got a flat blue sky over the mountains while the Amiga has a subtle blue gradient and some clouds!
Amazing work!
I had to disable CPU caches to get it running correctly on WinUAE, seemed fine nonethless.
Btw, I came across this video showing a running demo of Shadow of the Beast with technical info from the developers, [ Show youtube player ]
at one point it says "128 colors at once in the screen"
interesting
This means they counted the copper gradient effect in the 1st stage? Did it had 32 colors also? Sorry if this has been discussed previously here, just curious since Rygar seemed quite colorful too.

Rygars' is 32 colors on screen, plus color gradient, plus parallax colors. We'll try even with 64 colors

[sandruzzo]

Strating to add lower control panel