Want to code games for Amiga - Page 2

idrougge · 03 May 2015, 15:21

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Originally Posted by Bugala

Blitzbasic doesnt support GFX cards, nor anything internet related. You will also be limited to classic amigas only with them.

Not true. Foundation is made in Blitz2 and supports graphics cards. Blitz2 supports all operating system calls, and therefore supports graphics cards just as well as C or Modula-2 does. What you can't do is use the old Acidlibs as a way of supporting graphics card screen.

There is a lot of discussion on using Blitz2 on graphics cards in the BlitzList archives, starting around 1997-1998.

Bugala · 03 May 2015, 23:55

interesting, didnt know that. Thanks for correcting.

Cylon · 04 May 2015, 00:25

I would recommend Blitz2 too, but on a stock A500/A600 you should use the first Versions delivered on Disks, because the debugger form the BSS addition needs alot of resources you don't want to spend. The older one is way cool, too. ;-)

Shatterhand · 04 May 2015, 07:22

I want to compile for stock A600, but I'll be coding on an emulator, emulating the most powerful Amiga I can.

I want to be able to use the best tools possible, but to make it work on a stock A500/A600

idrougge · 04 May 2015, 17:06

That's the way to do it. The compiler runs very quickly (for a moderately sized program) on a 030/50, you just need to check the compiled binary so it runs at full speed on a plain A500.

If compilation takes too long, note that you can split your project into several files and include precompiled versions so that you only need to compile the routines you're currently editing.

Nosferax · 04 May 2015, 17:33

Why the hurry?

If you've waited until today to start programming on the Amiga, it must be because there wasn't any rush.

Amiga1992 · 04 May 2015, 20:36

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Originally Posted by Shatterhand

I want to compile for stock A600, but I'll be coding on an emulator, emulating the most powerful Amiga I can.

If you are going to do that why don't you just use a cross compiler and modern dev tools?

Nosferax · 04 May 2015, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Akira

If you are going to do that why don't you just use a cross compiler and modern dev tools?

Cross compilers don't includes all the platform specific libs and includes...
Beside there is a certain charm to be using the original tools to program for a classic system.

Amiga1992 · 04 May 2015, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Nosferax

Cross compilers don't includes all the platform specific libs and includes...

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=62945

Nosferax · 04 May 2015, 21:44

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Originally Posted by Akira

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=62945

That's a solution, albeit without syntax highlighting on 2013-CE, but who need that! Real programmer type their code in hex on the command line! Thanks!

Thorham · 05 May 2015, 08:19

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Originally Posted by Nosferax

Beside there is a certain charm to be using the original tools to program for a classic system.

Someone who understands

Nothing beats using an Amiga to program an Amiga. It does limit your choice of compilers, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferax

That's a solution, albeit without syntax highlighting on 2013-CE, but who need that!

Not needed, but still sucks when you don't have it

Bugala · 05 May 2015, 09:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferax

Real programmer type their code in hex on the command line!

pfft!
Real programmer directly controls the flow of the current!

Nosferax · 05 May 2015, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugala

pfft!
Real programmer directly controls the flow of the current!

You mean that you're using electricity?!? pffft! Amateur... I drive my computer by banging rocks to the beat of the binary code, morse style!

idrougge · 05 May 2015, 15:18

While there are cross-development kits for C and assembly, there is currently no way to develop Blitz using a PC, and the hurdle towards jumping straight into assembly is rather high.

Megol · 05 May 2015, 15:36

How about Amiga E? A pretty nice language that compiles fast, supporting structured and object oriented programming.

Shatterhand · 05 May 2015, 18:54

Is it suitable to make games with it? The thing about Blitz Basic is that it seems to be tailored towards game-making, and that's what I want to do

Shatterhand · 06 May 2015, 06:16

Ok, just installed Amiblitz 2 on my new configured Winuae Setup.

It asked me if I want it to be in German, i said NO, it said "ok, installing in english".

Then the thing is in german and I can't understand any of the compiler error messages.

I probably should open a new thread for it or something. How do I put this thing in english?

EDIT: I see there's an "Amiblitz2_eng" file and a "PED_Eng" file

PED_eng does actually open up the editor in english, but I can't compile anything from there. And Amiblitz2_eng is still in german! Lots of fun so far

idrougge · 06 May 2015, 16:04

Try to rename the _eng files to the default names instead. Haven't run AmiBlitz much, but then again German never bothered me.

Shatterhand · 07 May 2015, 19:07

Renaming just the ped_eng file to the default name made everything in english. Thank you for the suggestion

Amiga1992 · 10 May 2015, 00:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nosferax

That's a solution, albeit without syntax highlighting on 2013-CE, but who need that!

You can teach your text editor (if it's a decent one) to syntax highlight your code! I use notepad++, someone in EAB posted syntax coloring for 68k assembler, it might have been me and all

06 May 2015, 06:16	#37
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Ok, just installed Amiblitz 2 on my new configured Winuae Setup. It asked me if I want it to be in German, i said NO, it said "ok, installing in english". Then the thing is in german and I can't understand any of the compiler error messages. I probably should open a new thread for it or something. How do I put this thing in english? EDIT: I see there's an "Amiblitz2_eng" file and a "PED_Eng" file PED_eng does actually open up the editor in english, but I can't compile anything from there. And Amiblitz2_eng is still in german! Lots of fun so far Last edited by Shatterhand; 06 May 2015 at 07:14.

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03 May 2015, 23:55	#22
Bugala Registered User Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Haapamäki Posts: 202	interesting, didnt know that. Thanks for correcting.

04 May 2015, 00:25	#23
Cylon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Europe Posts: 471	I would recommend Blitz2 too, but on a stock A500/A600 you should use the first Versions delivered on Disks, because the debugger form the BSS addition needs alot of resources you don't want to spend. The older one is way cool, too. ;-)

04 May 2015, 07:22	#24
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	I want to compile for stock A600, but I'll be coding on an emulator, emulating the most powerful Amiga I can. I want to be able to use the best tools possible, but to make it work on a stock A500/A600

04 May 2015, 17:06	#25
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,338	That's the way to do it. The compiler runs very quickly (for a moderately sized program) on a 030/50, you just need to check the compiled binary so it runs at full speed on a plain A500. If compilation takes too long, note that you can split your project into several files and include precompiled versions so that you only need to compile the routines you're currently editing.

04 May 2015, 17:33	#26
Nosferax Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Beauharnois,Qc,Canada Posts: 227	Why the hurry? If you've waited until today to start programming on the Amiga, it must be because there wasn't any rush.

05 May 2015, 15:18	#34
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,338	While there are cross-development kits for C and assembly, there is currently no way to develop Blitz using a PC, and the hurdle towards jumping straight into assembly is rather high.

05 May 2015, 15:36	#35
Megol Registered User Join Date: May 2014 Location: inside the emulator Posts: 377	How about Amiga E? A pretty nice language that compiles fast, supporting structured and object oriented programming.

05 May 2015, 18:54	#36
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Is it suitable to make games with it? The thing about Blitz Basic is that it seems to be tailored towards game-making, and that's what I want to do

06 May 2015, 16:04	#38
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,338	Try to rename the _eng files to the default names instead. Haven't run AmiBlitz much, but then again German never bothered me.

07 May 2015, 19:07	#39
Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	Renaming just the ped_eng file to the default name made everything in english. Thank you for the suggestion

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