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Old 03 April 2023, 22:46   #1
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Polish Game Dumps

On FTP in this location -> /Commodore_Amiga/Misc/Various/'Polish Game Dumps' there are some KryoFlux and SuperCard dumps of rare Polish games.
Maybe somone can create IPFs? All of them are also copyprotected so WHDL releases are more than welcome or maybe proper crack:P
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Old 05 April 2023, 20:05   #2
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Is this disk based copy protection or manual?

diamenty d1 wer2 seems to be disk protection, maybe layout of the data on the disk as sector 4 on track 0 has a red mark above it in HxC and disk-utilities won't make a working image!

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Old 05 April 2023, 23:52   #3
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Is this disk based copy protection or manual?

diamenty d1 wer2 seems to be disk protection, maybe layout of the data on the disk as sector 4 on track 0 has a red mark above it in HxC and disk-utilities won't make a working image!
I think both protections. When you're trying lunch Diamenty there's info:

"This disc - is only a copy
Orginal version to purchase:"
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Old 06 April 2023, 01:47   #4
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Yep, something odd with track 0 and it's layout but I don't know what, either that or the dumps were from bad copies?
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The dump is good looks like there may be extra data on the bootblock similar to Yo! Joe and Bombuzal. Will need to create a custom decoder for it.
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Old 06 April 2023, 10:01   #6
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The dump is good looks like there may be extra data on the bootblock similar to Yo! Joe and Bombuzal. Will need to create a custom decoder for it.
If you use RAW_DD on track 0 then sector 4 goes missing in the IPF so it's not a plain ADOS track as you say!!
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I think both protections. When you're trying lunch Diamenty there's info:

"This disc - is only a copy
Orginal version to purchase:"
I will have a look.
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I will have a look.
If they are not Trace duplicated then you probably can't make IPF's?
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It seems there's some extra data in the gap, after sector 10.
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It seems there's some extra data in the gap, after sector 10.
Polish version of RNC GAP protection then
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Old 06 April 2023, 13:32   #11
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If they are not Trace duplicated then you probably can't make IPF's?
I will tell about that.
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If you use RAW_DD on track 0 then sector 4 goes missing in the IPF so it's not a plain ADOS track as you say!!
RAW_DD doesn't always work, but if you convert the image to ctraw and boot from it, it makes it past the initial protection.
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Many crap dumps with faulty track in the lot.
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RAW_DD doesn't always work, but if you convert the image to ctraw and boot from it, it makes it past the initial protection.
If I create "diamenty d1 wer2" as a CT RAW using DTC it omits sector 4 on track 0 but "diamenty d1" shows sector 4 as bad but loads!!

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Many crap dumps with faulty track in the lot.
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If I create "diamenty d1 wer2" as a CT RAW using DTC it omits sector 4 on track 0 but "diamenty d1" shows sector 4 as bad but loads!!

Who dumped them?

This dumps was posted on one Polish forum few years ago. IIRC you uploaded them to FTP
Recently i realized any of them wasn't processed so i created topic to move things ahead :P
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This dumps was posted on one Polish forum few years ago. IIRC you uploaded them to FTP
Recently i realized any of them wasn't processed so i created topic to move things ahead :P
I couldn't remember who dumped them. May we need to get dumps from our Polish members to compare and make 'good' dumps?
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Old 06 April 2023, 23:02   #17
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I found a topic on Polish forum where those games were posted first time:
https://www.ppa.pl/forum/strefa-gier...ecret-1995-5/2
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I found a topic on Polish forum where those games were posted first time:
https://www.ppa.pl/forum/strefa-gier...ecret-1995-5/2
Would also need the manuals for the off disk protection as well.
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The disk protection for Diamenty is just extra data after sector 11

The data is
00050000 444F 5300 C020 0F19 0000 0370 43FA 0018 DOS.. .....pC...
00050010 4EAE FFA0 4A80 670A 2040 2068 0016 7000 N...J.g. @ h..p.
00050020 4E75 70FF 60FA 646F 732E 6C69 6272 6172 Nup.`.dos.librar
00050030 7900 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 y...............

There is a check for the first long and looks like the data is used to load the lib

I was able to create a custom decoder for disk-analyse. The IPF boots to a manual protection screen. I am working on creating a code sheet for the manual protection. I will upload a working IPF when I complete the code sheet.
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The disk protection for Diamenty is just extra data after sector 11

The data is
00050000 444F 5300 C020 0F19 0000 0370 43FA 0018 DOS.. .....pC...
00050010 4EAE FFA0 4A80 670A 2040 2068 0016 7000 N...J.g. @ h..p.
00050020 4E75 70FF 60FA 646F 732E 6C69 6272 6172 Nup.`.dos.librar
00050030 7900 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 y...............

There is a check for the first long and looks like the data is used to load the lib

I was able to create a custom decoder for disk-analyse. The IPF boots to a manual protection screen. I am working on creating a code sheet for the manual protection. I will upload a working IPF when I complete the code sheet.
Cool !
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