Bargon Attack

PiCiJi · 30 September 2005, 14:01

The game seems to have a problem in Winuae. I have tested the cracked version (english) from Planet Emu and the whd load version. The whdload version has a few save games, so I hadn't play the whole game again.

The problem occurs by fighting vs a big crab. The screen goes garbage a few seconds. The crab should release a few mini crabs to shoot. But the garbage screen doesn't display this.

here is a state file:

CFou! · 30 September 2005, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiCiJi

The game seems to have a problem in Winuae. I have tested the cracked version (english) from Planet Emu and the whd load version. The whdload version has a few save games, so I hadn't play the whole game again.

The problem occurs by fighting vs a big crab. The screen goes garbage a few seconds. The crab should release a few mini crabs to shoot. But the garbage screen doesn't display this.

here is a state file:

It's a known bug

I have again try to fix it some weeks ago but no solution for the moment.

I thinks it's an allocation memory problem. Indeed main classic coktel vision games use a test ram routine very bugged which run fine only on a500.

I am similar problem with NoExit an Legend Of Djel (currently in work for long times) and often crash can be seen after a long time of play ...

I think i will resolve problems of this 3 games in same time (very similar), and soon perhaps, I have some ideas again to try to fix it And need just some times for this.

so wait a bit for update and sorry for this nightmare bug in my patch

PiCiJi · 30 September 2005, 22:44

no prob CFou, take your time. I have played the game on an emulated A500+ (1 meg chip). I wonder if it works on an emulated A500? The problem is that i have to play from beginning, because the savestates doesn't allow to change the system, of course.

I have load a savestate and afterwards I have used the save function of the game itsself. I have restarted WinUae with A500 settings(0,5 chip + 0,5 slow and so on). After loading from the save game disc the game goes crazy. Same location (first room of the game) and people without heads

andreas · 01 October 2005, 04:19

No garbage!

I'm at this point too. I'm playing the FRENCH VERSION! (to revamp my rusty French, too :P)

Absolutely no graphics bugs. I'd say the english version has a problem.
@PiCiJi: it should work to simply play the crab game with this French version, after that, save on a DISK (!) and then reload the saved game contents into the english version!

PiCiJi · 01 October 2005, 10:10

Do you mean french whdload version? I have tried it and same problem.

CFou! · 01 October 2005, 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

No garbage!

I'm at this point too. I'm playing the FRENCH VERSION! (to revamp my rusty French, too :P)

Absolutely no graphics bugs. I'd say the english version has a problem.
@PiCiJi: it should work to simply play the crab game with this French version, after that, save on a DISK (!) and then reload the saved game contents into the english version!

Enghlish version seems to have the same crash

andreas · 01 October 2005, 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiCiJi

Do you mean french whdload version? I have tried it and same problem.

Nope, the disk version!

Reading all of your report, it rather sounded like knackered source disk, at least from the very first read. I apologize for probably having interpreted too much inside (disk version fails as well as WHD version).

Thus, forget what I said -- this is clearly a WHD install problem.
Maybe some moderator could move this to WHD forum - it's rather not WinUAE's fault, which does a great job in emulating the game.

@PiCiJi: For the time being -- and if you want to -- I can upload you a save disk saved at the two statues, which come directly after the crab game. I'd favor this solution, as I am on my part stuck on Phase 15 with the zig-zag walk. I always get burned - damn!

PiCiJi · 01 October 2005, 16:37

Quote:

(disk version fails as well as WHD version)

Yes.

Maybe the cracked version is broken. There is only a french sps release out there and I can't read french. Can you give me a french savegame just before the crab. So I can use the english version later on, hopefully.

andreas · 01 October 2005, 22:31

No, I have one AFTER the crab, as I am unable to save when the INSERT COIN screen comes.
What version of WinUAE are you using, btw?
Since this is not too much hassle, I will just play up to the crab then again. *Shrug*

[edit] Done!

You MUST save when he goes into the mutated sand, otherwise there will be no saving point possible until the crab game is over!
Can you still reproduce the problem?
If so, I'd say your settings are the problem.
Save disk in the zone.

PiCiJi · 02 October 2005, 11:32

ok that works, i have used french sps release and loaded your save before the crab. The easy mini game works. Afterwards I have loaded the statue savegame with the cracked english version and now I can play further.

Thank you.

CFou! · 02 October 2005, 12:08

[quote=andreas]Nope, the disk version!

Reading all of your report, it rather sounded like knackered source disk, at least from the very first read. I apologize for probably having interpreted too much inside (disk version fails as well as WHD version).

Thus, forget what I said -- this is clearly a WHD install problem.
quote]

I am agree it's with WHD ... It memory manager fix pb....

andreas · 03 October 2005, 00:16

@PiCiJi:for the record, could you please try to restore the game BEFORE the crab with my save disk on the English version and check if you can still confirm the graphics bug?
(Preferably with WinUAE 1.1.)

PiCiJi · 03 October 2005, 10:30

testet with WinUae 1.1, cracked english version and your save game from french version: The game still shows garbage.
Is the cracked french version working or do you tried it like me with the sps release?

By the way I have finished the game. Now I am playing Code name Hell Squad. A really nice Adventure for Amiga.

andreas · 05 October 2005, 01:09

So can you PLEASE tell me how to get past that security field in Phase 15 of Bargon Attack? I always blow up.

Of course I used the combination to mark at least a couple of fields yellow ( = free way).Hell yes, I have tried everything imaginable but I cannot get past there. Thanks! You can also PM me your solution as it might be a bit more to explain. I must say that I do not even *understand* the system behind that field.

To your question: Nope, I used the cracked french release, no SPS

dlfrsilver · 05 October 2005, 12:20

So what about my french ipf of Bargon attack ? uh ? ^_^

Not working ? ^^ naaa

PiCiJi · 05 October 2005, 16:35

@Andreas: After using the combination go to the field with the grafitti and there is something on the ground, look carefully. You should inserting something.

andreas · 06 October 2005, 18:31

Found that thing already. But insert WHERE? At least the walkthrough says I should go to the third post. But I cannot as there is a security grid everywhere. Wrong step - and *whoosh*
Probably I am really blind. Maybe I should upload a screenshot and ask you to edit it by drawing in the position where I need to insert this thing.

PiCiJi · 07 October 2005, 09:57

First find out the code with the translation program on grafitti. You can do this without leaving the beginning grid. After inputing the code, (code station on beginning grid) you can reach the two right handed grids from your start position. Now go to the grid with the grafitti. Finally you have access to the hole on the grid with the grafitti. Use your jeton with the hole and the level is finished.

If it doesn't help , I write you a private message in german.

NPI · 08 March 2009, 14:57

sorry for bringing this topic back, but i have the same problem with the crab.

how do you save the position in the game? does anyone at least have a savestate just after the giant crab? help !!!

EDIT: I found out how. thanks for the hint, tho

01 October 2005, 22:31	#9
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	No, I have one AFTER the crab, as I am unable to save when the INSERT COIN screen comes. What version of WinUAE are you using, btw? Since this is not too much hassle, I will just play up to the crab then again. Shrug [edit] Done! You MUST save when he goes into the mutated sand, otherwise there will be no saving point possible until the crab game is over! Can you still reproduce the problem? If so, I'd say your settings are the problem. Save disk in the zone. Last edited by andreas; 01 October 2005 at 23:08.

05 October 2005, 01:09	#14
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	So can you PLEASE tell me how to get past that security field in Phase 15 of Bargon Attack? I always blow up. Of course I used the combination to mark at least a couple of fields yellow ( = free way).Hell yes, I have tried everything imaginable but I cannot get past there. Thanks! You can also PM me your solution as it might be a bit more to explain. I must say that I do not even understand the system behind that field. To your question: Nope, I used the cracked french release, no SPS Last edited by andreas; 07 May 2006 at 17:28.

08 March 2009, 14:57	#19
NPI Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Belgrade, Serbia Age: 38 Posts: 601	sorry for bringing this topic back, but i have the same problem with the crab. how do you save the position in the game? does anyone at least have a savestate just after the giant crab? help !!! EDIT: I found out how. thanks for the hint, tho Last edited by NPI; 08 March 2009 at 17:46.

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30 September 2005, 22:44	#3
PiCiJi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: germany Age: 45 Posts: 402	no prob CFou, take your time. I have played the game on an emulated A500+ (1 meg chip). I wonder if it works on an emulated A500? The problem is that i have to play from beginning, because the savestates doesn't allow to change the system, of course. I have load a savestate and afterwards I have used the save function of the game itsself. I have restarted WinUae with A500 settings(0,5 chip + 0,5 slow and so on). After loading from the save game disc the game goes crazy. Same location (first room of the game) and people without heads

01 October 2005, 04:19	#4
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	No garbage! I'm at this point too. I'm playing the FRENCH VERSION! (to revamp my rusty French, too :P) Absolutely no graphics bugs. I'd say the english version has a problem. @PiCiJi: it should work to simply play the crab game with this French version, after that, save on a DISK (!) and then reload the saved game contents into the english version!

01 October 2005, 10:10	#5
PiCiJi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: germany Age: 45 Posts: 402	Do you mean french whdload version? I have tried it and same problem.

02 October 2005, 11:32	#10
PiCiJi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: germany Age: 45 Posts: 402	ok that works, i have used french sps release and loaded your save before the crab. The easy mini game works. Afterwards I have loaded the statue savegame with the cracked english version and now I can play further. Thank you.

02 October 2005, 12:08	#11
CFou! Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: France Age: 50 Posts: 4,277	[quote=andreas]Nope, the disk version! Reading all of your report, it rather sounded like knackered source disk, at least from the very first read. I apologize for probably having interpreted too much inside (disk version fails as well as WHD version). Thus, forget what I said -- this is clearly a WHD install problem. quote] I am agree it's with WHD ... It memory manager fix pb....

03 October 2005, 00:16	#12
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	@PiCiJi:for the record, could you please try to restore the game BEFORE the crab with my save disk on the English version and check if you can still confirm the graphics bug? (Preferably with WinUAE 1.1.)

03 October 2005, 10:30	#13
PiCiJi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: germany Age: 45 Posts: 402	testet with WinUae 1.1, cracked english version and your save game from french version: The game still shows garbage. Is the cracked french version working or do you tried it like me with the sps release? By the way I have finished the game. Now I am playing Code name Hell Squad. A really nice Adventure for Amiga.

05 October 2005, 12:20	#15
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	So what about my french ipf of Bargon attack ? uh ? ^_^ Not working ? ^^ naaa

05 October 2005, 16:35	#16
PiCiJi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: germany Age: 45 Posts: 402	@Andreas: After using the combination go to the field with the grafitti and there is something on the ground, look carefully. You should inserting something.

06 October 2005, 18:31	#17
andreas Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Germany Age: 50 Posts: 5,857	Found that thing already. But insert WHERE? At least the walkthrough says I should go to the third post. But I cannot as there is a security grid everywhere. Wrong step - and whoosh Probably I am really blind. Maybe I should upload a screenshot and ask you to edit it by drawing in the position where I need to insert this thing.

07 October 2005, 09:57	#18
PiCiJi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: germany Age: 45 Posts: 402	First find out the code with the translation program on grafitti. You can do this without leaving the beginning grid. After inputing the code, (code station on beginning grid) you can reach the two right handed grids from your start position. Now go to the grid with the grafitti. Finally you have access to the hole on the grid with the grafitti. Use your jeton with the hole and the level is finished. If it doesn't help , I write you a private message in german.

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