Heroes of Might and Magic II - Page 11

saimon69 · 08 February 2017, 06:59

A bit of backstage

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saimon69 · 28 April 2017, 22:56

Did not work on this lately but is my intention to continue! The finetune of City of the Knight also involve some time stretching: to test i play both the recording and the mod at the same time and keep track of where they miss overlapping.

saimon69 · 07 May 2017, 02:57

Need to find the courage to finish City of the Knight but in the meanwhile i finalized Combat 3 and continued two of the main songs.

saimon69 · 10 May 2017, 20:57

Due to feedback i did improve the drum sampled bases and layouts for Combat 1 and combat 3 plus i started the two missing non-cd towns.

meynaf · 18 July 2017, 18:54

Ok ok i'll interrupt saimon69's monologue for a while to announce a new release !

It was about time

Same link as before (see first post).

This version fixes a few issues (check history for details) but is mostly optimizations, concentrated on the path finder - which is now roughly twice as fast. As a side effect this makes enemy moves faster as well (computer AI does lots of it). I just hope i broke nothing, this thing is fragile as a soap bubble...

Note : if you're running under winuae and pal mode you can activate option "remove interlace artifacts" under "display" tab. I've just noticed it does wonders here.

saimon69 · 19 July 2017, 00:24

not my fault if i took pride in working on the musics - had to put on hold due to real life and other projects but am trying to continue

meynaf · 19 July 2017, 09:11

That's ok, no problem - i did put a smiley

tom256 · 21 July 2017, 20:56

Thank you for new release. I will check this weekend

grelbfarlk · 23 July 2017, 15:22

I had a try converting the XMI files to MIDI and they sound quite good on the Amiga using AMIDI (with the HQ sound bank). Now can you add AMIDI support, I haven't talked to him but I think Novacoder preapproves of the CAMD support.

Attachment 53854

Tracks 0009 and 0010 have a hanging note on Amidi, so they sound terrible.

Here's what track 8 sounds like on the Amiga, sorry for WAV format but LAME butchered it as an MP3.

http://www.filedropper.com/homm0008

meynaf · 24 July 2017, 08:04

Converting to general midi isn't a big deal - I did it many years ago. However it might be better to have reusable source code to perform this conversion on the fly (or, better, play xmi directly).
And they rarely play fine, even on peecees.

Best results i got was either with OPL synth (for which the musics appear to be designed) or with Timidity.
Too bad some tracks sound poor with Amidi, i will seriously consider that support if this problem gets fixed.

grelbfarlk · 31 July 2017, 01:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by meynaf

Converting to general midi isn't a big deal - I did it many years ago. However it might be better to have reusable source code to perform this conversion on the fly (or, better, play xmi directly).
And they rarely play fine, even on peecees.

Best results i got was either with OPL synth (for which the musics appear to be designed) or with Timidity.
Too bad some tracks sound poor with Amidi, i will seriously consider that support if this problem gets fixed.

Well the Exult port has code for playing XMIs, I think at least from what little googling I did on it, so maybe you could lift that, Amidi was more or less written for Exult.

meynaf · 31 July 2017, 08:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

Well the Exult port has code for playing XMIs, I think at least from what little googling I did on it, so maybe you could lift that, Amidi was more or less written for Exult.

Ok but it doesn't solve the problem of tracks that don't replay properly.

grelbfarlk · 01 August 2017, 03:20

I converted them down to type 0 midi and now they play fine with CAMD(over serial to a PC with Softsynth), just not fine with the software renderer. I'm not sure what's going on I'm just guessing AHI is not able to cope with the amount of channels. So if you were at all interested in doing Amidi support you'd have the option of CAMD with real midi devices, AMidi software renderer, or possibly GMPlay with 14-bit Paula playback which I haven't tested.

I'll try to find an Amiga Midi player with AHI support to rule out whether it's a general AHI issue choking on the amount of channels/bandwidth.

meynaf · 01 August 2017, 08:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

I converted them down to type 0 midi and now they play fine with CAMD(over serial to a PC with Softsynth), just not fine with the software renderer. I'm not sure what's going on I'm just guessing AHI is not able to cope with the amount of channels.

One sure thing is that i will NOT use AHI.

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

So if you were at all interested in doing Amidi support you'd have the option of CAMD with real midi devices, AMidi software renderer, or possibly GMPlay with 14-bit Paula playback which I haven't tested.

I tried GMPlay already and it's not good enough. As I said earlier, only Timidity and OPL synth (thru Dosbox) seem to be able to play them fine.

In addition, remember that the game has sound fx as well so i need to be "in control" for proper replay. If there is no source code available for Amidi, then no Amidi support.

Quote:

Originally Posted by grelbfarlk

I'll try to find an Amiga Midi player with AHI support to rule out whether it's a general AHI issue choking on the amount of channels/bandwidth.

If it were AHI too slow, you'd hear holes in the playback -- not a held note.

grelbfarlk · 02 August 2017, 03:30

They do play fine with the CAMD.library, people have the option of redirecting the CAMD output to whatever they like whether that's a real midi synth or otherwise.

I didn't consider that the Amidi source is lost, I can't seem to find it. CAMD has source though.

lifeschool · 28 March 2018, 01:11

Heroes of Might and Magic 2? On Amiga?? Just wondering if this will be released?

utri007 · 28 March 2018, 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by lifeschool

Heroes of Might and Magic 2? On Amiga?? Just wondering if this will be released?

It will be released something like three years ago?

You can grap it from Meynaf's home page and direct download link is in first post.

Marlon_ · 28 March 2018, 12:06

A download link is available in the first post in this thread: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=616277&postcount=1

Raybeez · 21 September 2018, 11:42

Your HoMM2 port is making a sensation at the Polish PPA forum.
Several people have expressed interest in the port operating on the graphics card.
I have A2k with 060 myself and a graphics card (CV64/3D) and I would like to play the Homm2 port on this Amiga.
Is it possible to add graphic card support in your port?

meynaf · 21 September 2018, 14:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raybeez

Is it possible to add graphic card support in your port?

This is in theory possible, but I have no knowledge about these. The game has mainly been made for A1200/030 with just AGA.

Last version has had some code cleanup in this area (c2p in include file rather than being buried deep in the game itself) so now it's just a matter of how to use these graphics cards.
If someone can give me simple code for handling some (often partial) copy of 640x480x8 chunky frame buffer to the video mem, then i might do this.
Also i need to setup this under Winuae so i can test if the code works.

23 July 2017, 15:22	#209
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	I had a try converting the XMI files to MIDI and they sound quite good on the Amiga using AMIDI (with the HQ sound bank). Now can you add AMIDI support, I haven't talked to him but I think Novacoder preapproves of the CAMD support. Attachment 53854 Tracks 0009 and 0010 have a hanging note on Amidi, so they sound terrible. Here's what track 8 sounds like on the Amiga, sorry for WAV format but LAME butchered it as an MP3. http://www.filedropper.com/homm0008 Last edited by grelbfarlk; 22 June 2018 at 03:22.

21 September 2018, 11:42	#219
Raybeez Registered User Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gdansk / Poland Age: 43 Posts: 4	Amiga HoMM2 RTG port Your HoMM2 port is making a sensation at the Polish PPA forum. Several people have expressed interest in the port operating on the graphics card. I have A2k with 060 myself and a graphics card (CV64/3D) and I would like to play the Homm2 port on this Amiga. Is it possible to add graphic card support in your port?

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08 February 2017, 06:59	#201
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	A bit of backstage [ Show youtube player ]

28 April 2017, 22:56	#202
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	Did not work on this lately but is my intention to continue! The finetune of City of the Knight also involve some time stretching: to test i play both the recording and the mod at the same time and keep track of where they miss overlapping.

07 May 2017, 02:57	#203
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	Need to find the courage to finish City of the Knight but in the meanwhile i finalized Combat 3 and continued two of the main songs.

10 May 2017, 20:57	#204
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	Due to feedback i did improve the drum sampled bases and layouts for Combat 1 and combat 3 plus i started the two missing non-cd towns.

18 July 2017, 18:54	#205
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	Ok ok i'll interrupt saimon69's monologue for a while to announce a new release ! It was about time Same link as before (see first post). This version fixes a few issues (check history for details) but is mostly optimizations, concentrated on the path finder - which is now roughly twice as fast. As a side effect this makes enemy moves faster as well (computer AI does lots of it). I just hope i broke nothing, this thing is fragile as a soap bubble... Note : if you're running under winuae and pal mode you can activate option "remove interlace artifacts" under "display" tab. I've just noticed it does wonders here.

19 July 2017, 00:24	#206
saimon69 J.M.D - Bedroom Musician Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: los angeles,ca Posts: 3,519	not my fault if i took pride in working on the musics - had to put on hold due to real life and other projects but am trying to continue

19 July 2017, 09:11	#207
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	That's ok, no problem - i did put a smiley

21 July 2017, 20:56	#208
tom256 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Poland Posts: 166	Thank you for new release. I will check this weekend

24 July 2017, 08:04	#210
meynaf son of 68k Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lyon / France Age: 51 Posts: 5,323	Converting to general midi isn't a big deal - I did it many years ago. However it might be better to have reusable source code to perform this conversion on the fly (or, better, play xmi directly). And they rarely play fine, even on peecees. Best results i got was either with OPL synth (for which the musics appear to be designed) or with Timidity. Too bad some tracks sound poor with Amidi, i will seriously consider that support if this problem gets fixed.

01 August 2017, 03:20	#213
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	I converted them down to type 0 midi and now they play fine with CAMD(over serial to a PC with Softsynth), just not fine with the software renderer. I'm not sure what's going on I'm just guessing AHI is not able to cope with the amount of channels. So if you were at all interested in doing Amidi support you'd have the option of CAMD with real midi devices, AMidi software renderer, or possibly GMPlay with 14-bit Paula playback which I haven't tested. I'll try to find an Amiga Midi player with AHI support to rule out whether it's a general AHI issue choking on the amount of channels/bandwidth.

02 August 2017, 03:30	#215
grelbfarlk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: USA Posts: 2,902	They do play fine with the CAMD.library, people have the option of redirecting the CAMD output to whatever they like whether that's a real midi synth or otherwise. I didn't consider that the Amidi source is lost, I can't seem to find it. CAMD has source though.

28 March 2018, 01:11	#216
lifeschool Local Moderator Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Lancashire, UK Age: 48 Posts: 1,591	Heroes of Might and Magic 2? On Amiga?? Just wondering if this will be released?

28 March 2018, 12:06	#218
Marlon_ AmigaDev.com Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Age: 35 Posts: 625	A download link is available in the first post in this thread: http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=616277&postcount=1

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