Bridgeboard emulation (x86 CPU, for example A2286) - Page 19

AMIGASYSTEM · 31 August 2015, 20:03

Hello Toni, i do not know if it helps I tried a Hardfile created for DOSBox and apparently wants to start (see screenshot), the file is 256MB, the downloaded here.

Arnie · 31 August 2015, 20:48

@AMIGASYSTEMS

If you try a second time it states no boot sector for me.

@Toni

Same problem with the latest WinUAE.7z, Fdisk appears to work but on reboot no partitions found. This is using a new .vhd 60mb. (A3000, KS1.4, XT-IDE)

If you need more logs for the fire, let me know.

AMIGASYSTEM · 31 August 2015, 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnie

@AMIGASYSTEMS
If you try a second time it states no boot sector for me.

No, if you quit WinUAE and then run again revise it, in some cases it is necessary to make a PCREset, I also tried the 512, could partition, but then FDISK does not save the MBR

Now you go to dinner otherwise the wife who feels

Toni Wilen · 31 August 2015, 21:25

Fix mentioned in post #360 is not yet ready. Perhaps tomorrow.

Arnie · 31 August 2015, 21:53

If it helps heres a pic of the HD using biosdrvs.

themamboman · 01 September 2015, 19:36

I've tried using the a2286 with several of the bios images both with and without x86 video rtg and the workbench freezes (but not all of WinUAE) every time I launch PCPrefs from the PCInstall dms file found on amiga.resource.cx. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!

Toni Wilen · 01 September 2015, 19:37

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z

Do not use old DOS hardfiles, they must be created from scratch. Most previous bridgeboard configurations used incorrect IDE byte swapping.

- XTIDE "fake" 8-bit accesses really work now.
- $DC000 base address is now protected from Amiga-side modifications ($DC000 conflicts with $DC0000-DCFFFF Amiga/PC communication space but it seems only beginning is actually used, use only if any other XTIDE address does not work = Boot messages don't appear)

AMIGASYSTEM · 01 September 2015, 20:00

I thanks Toni had already downloaded the update before you wrote the post

, now the hardfile is seen, the installation on the 386 is started

EDIT: Installing MS-DOS 6.22 on 386 successful

jbenam · 01 September 2015, 21:55

Can't wait until Toni adds some kind of Soundblaster-compatible soundcard so that I can start playing some DOS games on an x86 hardware emulator inside an Amiga emulator

Thanks again for this, Toni!

themamboman · 01 September 2015, 22:34

When you get this working to your satisfaction, would you be willing to write up a short guide on how we set up the bridgeboard step by step?

Thanks so much!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

I thanks Toni had already downloaded the update before you wrote the post

, now the hardfile is seen, the installation on the 386 is started

EDIT: Installing MS-DOS 6.22 on 386 successful

AMIGASYSTEM · 02 September 2015, 03:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by themamboman

When you get this working to your satisfaction, would you be willing to write up a short guide on how we set up the bridgeboard step by step?

Thanks so much!

Done on the fly a VideoTube Tutorials, I hope it is understandable, the video shows the different configurations and the start of the two operating systems. For a new installation of MS-DOS you just insert the floppy in the position shown in the video and start the 386 from the floppy MS-DOS 6.22, of course everything can be improved, used in the video Amiga OS 2.1 but you can do the same with any OS from Amiga OS 1.3 to 3.9.

[ Show youtube player ]

AnnaWu · 02 September 2015, 07:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z

Do not use old DOS hardfiles, they must be created from scratch. Most previous bridgeboard configurations used incorrect IDE byte swapping.

- XTIDE "fake" 8-bit accesses really work now.
- $DC000 base address is now protected from Amiga-side modifications ($DC000 conflicts with $DC0000-DCFFFF Amiga/PC communication space but it seems only beginning is actually used, use only if any other XTIDE address does not work = Boot messages don't appear)

Was the new WinUAE version tested with the A1060 Sidecar/A2088(T) expansion and the installed Janus 2.1 driver?

Toni Wilen · 02 September 2015, 08:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaWu

Was the new WinUAE version tested with the A1060 Sidecar/A2088(T) expansion and the installed Janus 2.1 driver?

I did some A2088T tests but not 2088 or 1060.

XTIDE $DC000 probably should not be used with XT bridgeboards.

XT boards have much larger Janus shared memory choices, simply make sure shared memory and XTIDE (if used) does not conflict and XTIDE has larger address.

AnnaWu · 02 September 2015, 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

I did some A2088T tests but not 2088 or 1060.

XTIDE $DC000 probably should not be used with XT bridgeboards.

XT boards have much larger Janus shared memory choices, simply make sure shared memory and XTIDE (if used) does not conflict and XTIDE has larger address.

This is not my problem. I am not able to start my hard disk image (Amiga *.UAE) without any additional IDE Controller (ATIDE Primary or XTIDE Universal) and hard disk image (PC) with installed Janus 2.1 driver and selected A1060 Sidecar or A2088(T) expansion.

Toni Wilen · 02 September 2015, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnnaWu

This is not my problem. I am not able to start my hard disk image (Amiga *.UAE) without any additional IDE Controller (ATIDE Primary or XTIDE Universal) and hard disk image (PC) with installed Janus 2.1 driver and selected A1060 Sidecar or A2088(T) expansion.

Does last official beta work?

AMIGASYSTEM · 02 September 2015, 10:37

Made some small test on 386, I noticed that even with some 386 games like Prince of Persia and Zool not leave for strange reasons, not being an expert in MS-DOS can not understand the reasons. I tested the same games on the DOSBox Emulator successfully, they start games normally.

Another thing I noticed and that the MS-DOS can not enter ASCII characters such as Alt + 126 (useful for filenames truncated) instead of ASCII characters out other strange characters. Out of curiosity I run the System Information utility, here are the results of screenshots

AnnaWu · 02 September 2015, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

Does last official beta work?

Yes

Also it is working with the second last unofficial Beta (2015.08.31)

Sandro · 02 September 2015, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Made some small test on 386, I noticed that even with some 386 games like Prince of Persia and Zool not leave for strange reasons, not being an expert in MS-DOS can not understand the reasons. I tested the same games on the DOSBox Emulator successfully, they start games normally.

Another thing I noticed and that the MS-DOS can not enter ASCII characters such as Alt + 126 (useful for filenames truncated) instead of ASCII characters out other strange characters. Out of curiosity I run the System Information utility, here are the results of screenshots

plz upload such old benchmark dos proggy

Toni Wilen · 02 September 2015, 16:09

winuae.7z updated. XT bridgeboards boot hang fixed. (I forgot that XT bridgeboards have shared ram at 0xF0000-0xF3FFF and only ATs have ROM there)

AnnaWu · 02 September 2015, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni Wilen

winuae.7z updated. XT bridgeboards boot hang fixed. (I forgot that XT bridgeboards have shared ram at 0xF0000-0xF3FFF and only ATs have ROM there)

Looks good for me.
A1060 Sidecar, A2088 and A2088T expansion tested.
Thanks for the fix, Toni.

31 August 2015, 20:03	#361
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Hello Toni, i do not know if it helps I tried a Hardfile created for DOSBox and apparently wants to start (see screenshot), the file is 256MB, the downloaded here. Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 04 March 2016 at 15:45.

31 August 2015, 21:53	#365
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	If it helps heres a pic of the HD using biosdrvs. Last edited by Arnie; 12 October 2015 at 20:53.

01 September 2015, 20:00	#368
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	I thanks Toni had already downloaded the update before you wrote the post , now the hardfile is seen, the installation on the 386 is started EDIT: Installing MS-DOS 6.22 on 386 successful Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 04 March 2016 at 15:47.

02 September 2015, 10:37	#376
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Made some small test on 386, I noticed that even with some 386 games like Prince of Persia and Zool not leave for strange reasons, not being an expert in MS-DOS can not understand the reasons. I tested the same games on the DOSBox Emulator successfully, they start games normally. Another thing I noticed and that the MS-DOS can not enter ASCII characters such as Alt + 126 (useful for filenames truncated) instead of ASCII characters out other strange characters. Out of curiosity I run the System Information utility, here are the results of screenshots Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 26 October 2015 at 00:56.

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31 August 2015, 20:48	#362
Arnie R.I.P Smudge 18-08-16 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Leicester/UK Age: 66 Posts: 3,968	@AMIGASYSTEMS If you try a second time it states no boot sector for me. @Toni Same problem with the latest WinUAE.7z, Fdisk appears to work but on reboot no partitions found. This is using a new .vhd 60mb. (A3000, KS1.4, XT-IDE) If you need more logs for the fire, let me know.

31 August 2015, 21:25	#364
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	Fix mentioned in post #360 is not yet ready. Perhaps tomorrow.

01 September 2015, 19:36	#366
themamboman Registered User Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Atlanta, USA Posts: 154	I've tried using the a2286 with several of the bios images both with and without x86 video rtg and the workbench freezes (but not all of WinUAE) every time I launch PCPrefs from the PCInstall dms file found on amiga.resource.cx. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks!

01 September 2015, 19:37	#367
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	http://www.winuae.net/files/b/winuae.7z Do not use old DOS hardfiles, they must be created from scratch. Most previous bridgeboard configurations used incorrect IDE byte swapping. - XTIDE "fake" 8-bit accesses really work now. - $DC000 base address is now protected from Amiga-side modifications ($DC000 conflicts with $DC0000-DCFFFF Amiga/PC communication space but it seems only beginning is actually used, use only if any other XTIDE address does not work = Boot messages don't appear)

01 September 2015, 21:55	#369
jbenam Italian Amiga Zealot Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Italy Age: 36 Posts: 1,910	Can't wait until Toni adds some kind of Soundblaster-compatible soundcard so that I can start playing some DOS games on an x86 hardware emulator inside an Amiga emulator Thanks again for this, Toni!

02 September 2015, 16:09	#379
Toni Wilen WinUAE developer Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Hämeenlinna/Finland Age: 49 Posts: 26,502	winuae.7z updated. XT bridgeboards boot hang fixed. (I forgot that XT bridgeboards have shared ram at 0xF0000-0xF3FFF and only ATs have ROM there)

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