[Found: Say] Amiga talking - Page 2

James · 10 February 2011, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by andreas

Extras disk is correct.
However, "Say" would not make sense in WB 2.04 with a 2.04 Extras Disk because you will NOT find either of narrator.device, translator.library or speak-handler there!

Like this old post of alexh states, the speech synthesis stuff got pulled in 2.04 because of legal disputes and disagreement with the company that made it.
Only way out will be to copy the needed "driver" stuff off a 1.3 disk.

No this is all wrong, just checked my WB 2.04 disk - the main disk not extras. It contains:

narrator.device 37.7 22/05/91
speak-handler 37.4 21/02/91
translator.library 37.1 15/01/91

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mequa

Here is a little-known fact:
AMOS Professional came with a newer version of narrator.device and translator.library than Workbench 1.3.
(It may have been the build included with WB 2.0 - I've yet to compare them.)

When these updates are used with the original Workbench 1.3 Say utility, the speech quality is considerably better than the original.

P.S.
Yep, I just checked this out. Here's what's on the first AMOS Pro disk (AMOS-Professional10_1of6.adf) downloadable from here (6 in a zip):
http://www.back2roots.org/Tools/Dev/ (direct link to download)

In Devs:
narrator.device 65176 ----rw-d 04-Oct-92 18:24:57

In Libs:
translator.library 10592 ----rwed 04-Oct-92 18:25:52

Just checked these and they are not as new as the date stamp suggests.

narrator.device 32.8 30/11/1989
translator.library 33.2 24/06/1986

andreas · 23 February 2011, 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

No this is all wrong, just checked my WB 2.04 disk - the main disk not extras. It contains:

narrator.device 37.7 22/05/91
speak-handler 37.4 21/02/91
translator.library 37.1 15/01/91

Thanks. So I stand corrected!

Well it's because alexh usually knows his stuff, so if he already had checked for those files, it would be a tad pointless to recheck for them again. That's why I had trusted him on this

Dreedo · 28 February 2011, 13:57

I have WB 2.05 and it has the Say program on the main WB disk. Twas the main use of the Amiga back when we had it in 1995.

Arnie · 28 February 2011, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreedo

I have WB 2.05 and it has the Say program on the main WB disk. Twas the main use of the Amiga back when we had it in 1995.

When you would have been 2 years old

Dreedo · 28 February 2011, 14:27

Indeed :P

gulliver · 28 February 2011, 18:41

BTW, I was wondering if anyone out there has the last CBM version of say that according to the "Workbench Nostalgia" website, was found in the beta version of Workbench 2.1

It would be great if someone could Zone it

s2325 · 09 January 2013, 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly

Say was really good back in the early 90s. Every time I hear Stephen Hawking on tv it reminds me of Say.

I noticed same thing today. I think it's not similar but same voice. Can anyone confirm?

James · 09 January 2013, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by s2325

I noticed same thing today. I think it's not similar but same voice. Can anyone confirm?

I can't confirm, but looking at the SoftVoice website I would think it is very likely:

http://www.text2speech.com/

08 February 2016, 15:19

Hello! I've found this thread through Google. I used to spend ages getting Say to sing stuff on my school's old Amiga 500...

Having a huge nostalgia trip with UAE at the moment, and I've just rediscovered this old utility. I'm only missing one piece of information.

How do you quit? The Version on workbench 1.3 doesn't have a close button on either of the windows, and there's nothing on the top menu when I right-click.

volvo_0ne · 17 February 2016, 21:20

Was "Say" a later development of "Sam" for the C64 which in it's demo used to say...

"A Speech siintheesizr for the koomedoor sixty fur Kompuudr"

Amiga1992 · 17 February 2016, 22:04

Yes, the people who made SAM went to the Amiga to make SAY.
They also did other speech synths before SAM, but I can't recall which.

[edit] on the link above you can see the company who made it wand what else they made: http://www.text2speech.com/#aboutsv . Seems like the Mac speech synth was also the same.

s2325 · 17 February 2016, 22:05

SAM was released also for Atari XE/XL computers [ Show youtube player ]

Boulder · 18 February 2016, 20:34

I'll always remember The Art of Chess for hearing the Amiga speak for the first time. "Amiga move, white to play".

I also got very irritated with the Amiga version of Football Manager as the results were read out loud and it took ages!

Photon · 16 July 2017, 21:04

For those trying WB 1.3.3 (the latest A500 1.x from Commodore), these 3 files are absent and Say works with the files on WB 1.3 disks that still have the Microsoft Basic on them (1988).

WB 1.3.3 includes an FD1.3 folder that says "Basic FD files here!", and contains all the files in libs: PLUS translator.library. Except they all have the .fd suffix, which I don't know the use for. .fd means FastDir to me.

Michael · 25 October 2017, 17:03

Stephen Hawking used amiga speech generator under WinUAE on a laptop ?!

Interesting message at 0:35

[ Show youtube player ]

Nobby_UK · 25 October 2017, 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by moogthedog

How do you quit? The Version on workbench 1.3 doesn't have a close button on either of the windows, and there's nothing on the top menu when I right-click.

I thought it was Ctrl+C (then Enter ?)
But a quick test under WinUAE shows it to be
just ENTER

Retrofan · 26 October 2017, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael

Stephen Hawking used amiga speech generator under WinUAE on a laptop ?!

Interesting message at 0:35

[ Show youtube player ]

Aha!

I don't know, but YES, that's an Amiga Workbench at 0:35, and I asked the same time ago:

http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=...postcount=1273

RiotRetroGaming · 26 October 2017, 00:31

Does anybody know where I can get the 'Short Circuit' version of this.
I have tried all sorts of areas to find the voice of the robots talking... it seems this has been forgotten.
It's the scene at the very beginning of Short Circuit where the robots are being remote controlled and one is crushing ice with his hand - always loved that voice and never been able to get hold of the actual synthesis or how they do it.

Retrofan · 26 October 2017, 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael

Stephen Hawking used amiga speech generator under WinUAE on a laptop ?!

Interesting message at 0:35

[ Show youtube player ]

As I was saying, just listen to the booting voice here:

[ Show youtube player ]

To me it's Stephen Hawking talking

08 February 2016, 15:19	#29
moogthedog Posts: n/a	Say! - How to quit Hello! I've found this thread through Google. I used to spend ages getting Say to sing stuff on my school's old Amiga 500... Having a huge nostalgia trip with UAE at the moment, and I've just rediscovered this old utility. I'm only missing one piece of information. How do you quit? The Version on workbench 1.3 doesn't have a close button on either of the windows, and there's nothing on the top menu when I right-click. Last edited by moogthedog; 09 February 2016 at 10:15.

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28 February 2011, 13:57	#23
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	I have WB 2.05 and it has the Say program on the main WB disk. Twas the main use of the Amiga back when we had it in 1995.

28 February 2011, 14:27	#25
Dreedo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: West Yorkshire, UK Age: 30 Posts: 657	Indeed :P

28 February 2011, 18:41	#26
gulliver BoingBagged Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The South of nowhere Age: 46 Posts: 2,358	BTW, I was wondering if anyone out there has the last CBM version of say that according to the "Workbench Nostalgia" website, was found in the beta version of Workbench 2.1 It would be great if someone could Zone it

17 February 2016, 21:20	#30
volvo_0ne Registered User Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 360	Was "Say" a later development of "Sam" for the C64 which in it's demo used to say... "A Speech siintheesizr for the koomedoor sixty fur Kompuudr"

17 February 2016, 22:04	#31
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,644	Yes, the people who made SAM went to the Amiga to make SAY. They also did other speech synths before SAM, but I can't recall which. [edit] on the link above you can see the company who made it wand what else they made: http://www.text2speech.com/#aboutsv . Seems like the Mac speech synth was also the same.

17 February 2016, 22:05	#32
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	SAM was released also for Atari XE/XL computers [ Show youtube player ]

18 February 2016, 20:34	#33
Boulder Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hollola, Finland Age: 47 Posts: 131	I'll always remember The Art of Chess for hearing the Amiga speak for the first time. "Amiga move, white to play". I also got very irritated with the Amiga version of Football Manager as the results were read out loud and it took ages!

16 July 2017, 21:04	#34
Photon Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Eksjö / Sweden Posts: 5,602	For those trying WB 1.3.3 (the latest A500 1.x from Commodore), these 3 files are absent and Say works with the files on WB 1.3 disks that still have the Microsoft Basic on them (1988). WB 1.3.3 includes an FD1.3 folder that says "Basic FD files here!", and contains all the files in libs: PLUS translator.library. Except they all have the .fd suffix, which I don't know the use for. .fd means FastDir to me.

25 October 2017, 17:03	#35
Michael A1260T/PPC/BV/SCSI/NET Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Moscow / Russia Posts: 839	Stephen Hawking used amiga speech generator under WinUAE on a laptop ?! Interesting message at 0:35 [ Show youtube player ]

26 October 2017, 00:31	#38
RiotRetroGaming Riot Retro Gaming Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Sittingbourne Posts: 268	Does anybody know where I can get the 'Short Circuit' version of this. I have tried all sorts of areas to find the voice of the robots talking... it seems this has been forgotten. It's the scene at the very beginning of Short Circuit where the robots are being remote controlled and one is crushing ice with his hand - always loved that voice and never been able to get hold of the actual synthesis or how they do it.

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