why Sonic wasn't possible on stock Amiga? - Page 3

Amiga1992 · 26 January 2012, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamelito

Sonic disassemblies :
http://info.sonicretro.org/Disassemblies

VERY cool!

Mrs Beanbag · 26 January 2012, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by kamelito

Sonic disassemblies :
http://info.sonicretro.org/Disassemblies

I have looked through one of these disassemblies already, it's quite interesting, I think I can use some of it in a Sonic port, but it will take a bit of fathoming out.

Radertified · 27 January 2012, 18:00

There was a PD game called "Quick and Silver" which was blazingly fast. It's been over a decade since I last played it, but I want to say it was much faster than Sonic. I can't remember if it was AGA only.

If anyone has Amiga Format or CU Amiga CDs, I'm fairly sure it was available on one of those at one point.

Amiga1992 · 27 January 2012, 18:25

This crappy game?
[ Show youtube player ]
http://hol.abime.net/3199

Radertified · 27 January 2012, 18:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akira

This crappy game?
[ Show youtube player ]
http://hol.abime.net/3199

No

It was PD and was called "Quick and Silver"... well, either that or "Quicksilver". I don't have any of my covermounts anymore to check, unfortunately.

Graham Humphrey · 27 January 2012, 19:02

Quicksilva I'm guessing is what you're referring to?

pmc · 27 January 2012, 20:19

Quik and Silva was a PD platformer given away on a magazine way back when, maybe you mean that one?

http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=33

EDIT: maybe not PD? Definitely given away on a mag at some point though. Alternate info:

http://hol.abime.net/3199

Graham Humphrey · 27 January 2012, 21:33

He already said it wasn't that one

I'm 99% sure the one he's on about is the one I've linked to. It was featured in Amiga Format's Reader Games section at then end of '96/start of '97 - I don't have the issue to hand right now.

pmc · 27 January 2012, 21:48

Ah, fair enough.

My skim reading is my downfall once more...

lilalurl · 27 January 2012, 23:05

Pretty sure GH is correct with Quicksilva.

I just tried the game myself a bit. The Sonic influence is quite obvious (spinning jump, jump springs, ability to spin roll up the walls with a curb at the bottom) and technically pretty nice.

As djay said in another thread, the background is a bit of an eye-killer for me and the speed is a bit too high to make it enjoyable (tried on a 1200 setting in Winuae).

Hopefully, s2325 will make a gameplay video

.

s2325 · 27 January 2012, 23:28

I don't know how can I exit shop in this game...

lilalurl · 27 January 2012, 23:39

Press up after the first choice.

With up and down you can scroll through the various choices of weapons (or extra lives) you can buy (or exit). With left and right you can choose if you want to buy or sell weapons/ammunitions and power for the weapons

I have not experimented much which do what and what but it is not always really obvious from the description how useful the power is important for each weapon.

Then once in the game, you press 1234 etc... (those on the top rank of the keyboard, not the numpad keys) to change the current active weapon.

Radertified · 27 January 2012, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham Humphrey

Quicksilva I'm guessing is what you're referring to?

Yes! That's the game. Thanks for finding it

The background has always been a pain, however it demonstrates the Sonic like speed that would be required. From the brief play session I just had, it seems like the speed is on par with Sonic (not faster) on a standard A1200 config.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmc

My skim reading is my downfall once more...

GH pun

clauddio · 28 January 2012, 00:29

this game quicksilva is ultra fast I never seen a platform game faster than this
it is so crazy

however the game looks good because have cool music + cool sound effects + animated backgrounds
we need a patch to slow it

I tested it and it is not AGA however it seems that needs 2 mb of memory cause it not works on the A500 with 1mb

s2325 · 28 January 2012, 00:47

Thank you. With A500 (1MB chip, 512KB slow) settings: [ Show youtube player ]

mikele · 28 January 2012, 11:02

As much as I love Amiga I don't think the choice between Sonic and Zool/Brian the Lion/Mr Nutz/Kid Chaos is just apples vs oranges. It's the quality and finest details that make a difference. It's close to statement "there's no Godfather on pay per view, so I might watch "Mobsters" (1991) as well"

So I keep my fingers crossed for Amiga port of Hedgehog.

Graham Humphrey · 28 January 2012, 11:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radertified

GH pun

Nicely done

Amiga1992 · 28 January 2012, 11:55

INteresting game, but way too jaggy, it needs to be smoother to be playable.
Doesn't feel like it's running in one frame.

s2325 · 28 January 2012, 11:56

I think it's youtube fault. Should be also smoother on A1200.

Galahad/FLT · 28 January 2012, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikele

As much as I love Amiga I don't think the choice between Sonic and Zool/Brian the Lion/Mr Nutz/Kid Chaos is just apples vs oranges. It's the quality and finest details that make a difference. It's close to statement "there's no Godfather on pay per view, so I might watch "Mobsters" (1991) as well"

So I keep my fingers crossed for Amiga port of Hedgehog.

Sorry, whilst I like your analogy, to deny that any of the Amiga games you mentioned don't have the same quality or finer details of Sonic is rather disingenuous, and this isn't a rampant defence of Amiga games, you've just happened to pick games that on ANY system were of great quality and had great detail attached to them.

Especially Mr.Nutz.

However, I never liked Zool on the Amiga, and have never rated it.

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27 January 2012, 18:00	#43
Radertified Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: - Posts: 728	There was a PD game called "Quick and Silver" which was blazingly fast. It's been over a decade since I last played it, but I want to say it was much faster than Sonic. I can't remember if it was AGA only. If anyone has Amiga Format or CU Amiga CDs, I'm fairly sure it was available on one of those at one point.

27 January 2012, 18:25	#44
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	This crappy game? [ Show youtube player ] http://hol.abime.net/3199

27 January 2012, 19:02	#46
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	Quicksilva I'm guessing is what you're referring to?

27 January 2012, 20:19	#47
pmc gone Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: completely gone Posts: 1,596	Quik and Silva was a PD platformer given away on a magazine way back when, maybe you mean that one? http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=33 EDIT: maybe not PD? Definitely given away on a mag at some point though. Alternate info: http://hol.abime.net/3199

27 January 2012, 21:33	#48
Graham Humphrey Moderator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Norwich, Norfolk, UK Age: 37 Posts: 11,167	He already said it wasn't that one I'm 99% sure the one he's on about is the one I've linked to. It was featured in Amiga Format's Reader Games section at then end of '96/start of '97 - I don't have the issue to hand right now.

27 January 2012, 21:48	#49
pmc gone Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: completely gone Posts: 1,596	Ah, fair enough. My skim reading is my downfall once more...

27 January 2012, 23:05	#50
lilalurl Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 3,289	Pretty sure GH is correct with Quicksilva. I just tried the game myself a bit. The Sonic influence is quite obvious (spinning jump, jump springs, ability to spin roll up the walls with a curb at the bottom) and technically pretty nice. As djay said in another thread, the background is a bit of an eye-killer for me and the speed is a bit too high to make it enjoyable (tried on a 1200 setting in Winuae). Hopefully, s2325 will make a gameplay video .

27 January 2012, 23:28	#51
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	I don't know how can I exit shop in this game...

27 January 2012, 23:39	#52
lilalurl Global Moderator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: France Posts: 3,289	Press up after the first choice. With up and down you can scroll through the various choices of weapons (or extra lives) you can buy (or exit). With left and right you can choose if you want to buy or sell weapons/ammunitions and power for the weapons I have not experimented much which do what and what but it is not always really obvious from the description how useful the power is important for each weapon. Then once in the game, you press 1234 etc... (those on the top rank of the keyboard, not the numpad keys) to change the current active weapon.

28 January 2012, 00:29	#54
clauddio Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Saturn Age: 52 Posts: 279	this game quicksilva is ultra fast I never seen a platform game faster than this it is so crazy however the game looks good because have cool music + cool sound effects + animated backgrounds we need a patch to slow it I tested it and it is not AGA however it seems that needs 2 mb of memory cause it not works on the A500 with 1mb

28 January 2012, 00:47	#55
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	Thank you. With A500 (1MB chip, 512KB slow) settings: [ Show youtube player ]

28 January 2012, 11:02	#56
mikele Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: poland Posts: 307	As much as I love Amiga I don't think the choice between Sonic and Zool/Brian the Lion/Mr Nutz/Kid Chaos is just apples vs oranges. It's the quality and finest details that make a difference. It's close to statement "there's no Godfather on pay per view, so I might watch "Mobsters" (1991) as well" So I keep my fingers crossed for Amiga port of Hedgehog.

28 January 2012, 11:55	#58
Amiga1992 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ? Posts: 19,645	INteresting game, but way too jaggy, it needs to be smoother to be playable. Doesn't feel like it's running in one frame.

28 January 2012, 11:56	#59
s2325 Zone Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gargore Age: 43 Posts: 17,789	I think it's youtube fault. Should be also smoother on A1200.

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