Dan Scott's (Dan/Anarchy) game memories! - Page 3

dlfrsilver · 04 March 2016, 11:54

oh my god :'(

kamelito · 04 March 2016, 13:59

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Originally Posted by DanScott

I honestly don't know... I remember we all used to do weekly backups... probably with CPBackup or something like this. I believe the backup disks were stored offsite too, but I really have no idea what happened to them.

I did have the source for Wonderdog, on an external HD, but this fell to the floor and now has the "click of death"... there were the 2 unreleased DVD games on that HD too :/

If you still have that drive and buy an identical one (second hand), it may be recoverable. I'm sure there's plenty of explanation how to do it on the web. Tricky but doable.

Kamelito

lost dragon · 04 March 2016, 15:44

Hi Dan,

Welcome to the forum and huge thanks for taking time to answer Q's.

These are complete long shots, but whilst your here :-)

Do you have any idea where the UK Press got the idea games like:

BC Racers/Tomb Raider/Scottish Open Golf/Swagman and Thunderhawk were all headed to the Atari Jaguar CD?.

I've 'spoken' to a good few Ex-Core artists and coders, along with Richard Barc.who informed me likes of Edge knew the Tomb Raider screens were mock-ups, but any insights you yourself might have would be most welcome.

Also, claim has always been that a 'team' at Core produced a tech demo for Sega to showcase the power of the Dreamcast off behind closed doors and this was Scud Racer, but so far no-one has been able to confirm or deny this.

Any ideas?.

DanScott · 05 March 2016, 10:57

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Originally Posted by lost dragon

Hi Dan,

Do you have any idea where the UK Press got the idea games like:

BC Racers/Tomb Raider/Scottish Open Golf/Swagman and Thunderhawk were all headed to the Atari Jaguar CD?.

My best guess, is that most Core games of that era would have been ear-marked for conversion to any new console format

I would imagine maybe there was some press release listing these titles

DanScott · 05 March 2016, 10:59

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Originally Posted by lost dragon

Also, claim has always been that a 'team' at Core produced a tech demo for Sega to showcase the power of the Dreamcast off behind closed doors and this was Scud Racer, but so far no-one has been able to confirm or deny this.

I was never aware of anything like this... Core was not a big company at that time.. maybe 60 or 70 employees, and nothing like this rings a bell

lost dragon · 05 March 2016, 11:41

Hello Dan,

Huge thanks for taking the time to answer my Q's, it is very much appreciated.

The vast majority of the 'work' i do on behalf of sites like Unseen64/GTW is looking into the various claims UK magazines made back in the day and the vast majority of times the answers come back, that what we read had little/no grounding in reality, what so ever :-)

Trouble is, many have simply taken said press claims, taken them as fact and then passed off said claims as fact in Lost Games articles, just because they appeared in Mags A-Z and thus the claims have taken on a status that they must be true, as so many mags/sites have said so...

mc68060 · 05 March 2016, 12:29

Which of the Amiga games you worked on are you most proud of? Do you have a favourite?

DanScott · 05 March 2016, 16:10

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Originally Posted by mc68060

Which of the Amiga games you worked on are you most proud of? Do you have a favourite?

I would say Chuck Rock 2... in fact, Chuck Rock was one of the main reasons I wanted to work at Core, and I had always wanted to do a console style platformer.. and when they asked me to do Chuck 2, I was over the moon

s2325 · 05 March 2016, 16:15

Was there some serious reason to remove pooping dinosaur from console versions of Chuck Rock?

DanScott · 05 March 2016, 16:21

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Originally Posted by s2325

Was there some serious reason to remove pooping dinosaur from console versions of Chuck Rock?

Sega / Nintendo guidelines forbid "pooping" to appear in their games

Shatterhand · 05 March 2016, 17:41

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Originally Posted by DanScott

I would say Chuck Rock 2... in fact, Chuck Rock was one of the main reasons I wanted to work at Core, and I had always wanted to do a console style platformer.. and when they asked me to do Chuck 2, I was over the moon

Chuck Rock 2 is a very nice game, both on gameplay and technical department... which isn't all that common on Amiga kingdom

I remember when my cousin used to visit me, he always wanted to play Chuck Rock 2, which annoyed me because it was a 1 player game

I was playing Premiere again these days, that's also a pretty nice game, which didn't age badly at all. Since you made Premiere, I may finally ask one question I had for years

Why choosing between SFX or Music ?I could never understand why so many Amiga games did that (It was even more annoying when a 8 bits version of the game had both music and sfx!). Martin Iveson had done an awesome job with Wolfchild using both music and sfx, why with Premiere we went back to have just one or another ?

DanScott · 05 March 2016, 17:53

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Originally Posted by Shatterhand

I was playing Premiere again these days, that's also a pretty nice game, which didn't age badly at all. Since you made Premiere, I may finally ask one question I had for years

Why choosing between SFX and Music ?I could never understand why so many Amiga games did that (It was even more annoying when a 8 bits version of the game had both music and sfx!). Martin Iveson had done an awesome job with Wolfchild using both music and sfx, why with Premiere we went back to have just one or another ?

I don't know, maybe because of the style of music, could not really do it in 2 channels ?

I really did not enjoy making Premiere... what bugged me most was the awkward 2 layers of platforms, and the crappy mechanic of jumping between them...

Shatterhand · 05 March 2016, 18:02

You didn't enjoy doing it, or is it just that you were unhappy with the final result? Any problems while working on the game?

So the final word if the game would have the "music or sfx" option was from the musician, not the coder?(Or at least in your experience ? )

Galahad/FLT · 05 March 2016, 18:59

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Originally Posted by DanScott

I would say Chuck Rock 2... in fact, Chuck Rock was one of the main reasons I wanted to work at Core, and I had always wanted to do a console style platformer.. and when they asked me to do Chuck 2, I was over the moon

I liked the effort you made on Chuck Rock 2. Whilst the Amiga version didnt have as many parallax layers ingame, introducing that extra foreground layer which the Megadrive version didnt have helped make up for some omissions.

The title sequence has a little more pizazz than the Megadrive as well with the simple deres of the titlescreen that helps lift it up as more than just a rush job.

Was the extras put in the Amiga version lead by your suggestions of "we cant have that, but we could always add that if you draw it." ?

DanScott · 05 March 2016, 19:27

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Originally Posted by Galahad/FLT

I liked the effort you made on Chuck Rock 2. Whilst the Amiga version didnt have as many parallax layers ingame, introducing that extra foreground layer which the Megadrive version didnt have helped make up for some omissions.

The title sequence has a little more pizazz than the Megadrive as well with the simple deres of the titlescreen that helps lift it up as more than just a rush job.

Was the extras put in the Amiga version lead by your suggestions of "we cant have that, but we could always add that if you draw it." ?

We definitely wanted the Amiga version to be as "consoley" as possible.. the deres was quite big on the SNES at that time, and we added the classic "SFX TEST" to the options menu too

I think the Megadrive version did have the original foreground parallax too at one point. I looked on the YouTube long play and it appears to mainly be gone (although it's used for the lava and the water in those respective levels, but has lost the element of parallax).

It's just a shame we had to lose the river race sub-game, as I just didn't have time.. the graphics were all done and converted to 8 colours, but the megadrive coders already had a major headstart, as the engine was effectively written for Wonderdog originally.

Haha.. just noticed that whoever knocked together the CD32 version (Rob Northern perhaps??) guffed up the snow effects with the HW sprites

And I also just noticed a few things that could have been improved with a few minutes work :/

mc68060 · 06 March 2016, 00:09

Did people at Core Design know that you were actually Dan of Anarchy?

Cobe · 06 March 2016, 09:35

Postovanje Dane,

When you have time I'd like to buy you a beer, if you don't mind I would like you to sign me my physical copy of my unofficial cd32 port of yours Wonderdog

http://unofficial-cd32-ports.blogspo...wonderdog.html

DanScott · 06 March 2016, 10:33

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Originally Posted by Cobe

Postovanje Dane,

When you have time I'd like to buy you a beer, if you don't mind I would like you to sign me my physical copy of my unofficial cd32 port of yours Wonderdog

http://unofficial-cd32-ports.blogspo...wonderdog.html

Well, if you are around this evening, drop by Wats club on Lomina, I will be DJ'ng there tonight

Always happy to sign it for you, and I don't drink alcohol.. so a mineral water will be fine

DanScott · 06 March 2016, 10:35

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Originally Posted by mc68060

Did people at Core Design know that you were actually Dan of Anarchy?

Yes, most of the people that were there when I started knew, but over time, as my scene activities ground to a halt, the newer employees did not know, unless something came up in some conversation about demos / scene stuff

mc68060 · 06 March 2016, 11:32

When you wrote that cracktro for Lemmings (Skid Row) did you have any idea that this would become one of the most widely remembered and most oftenly seen cracktros on the Amiga? Probably by hundreds of thousands gamers...

Would you have done something differently if you had known that this would become one of the top 3 cracktros that really everybody knows?

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04 March 2016, 11:54	#41
dlfrsilver CaptainM68K-SPS France Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melun nearby Paris/France Age: 46 Posts: 10,412	oh my god :'(

04 March 2016, 15:44	#43
lost dragon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: UK Posts: 15	Hi Dan, Welcome to the forum and huge thanks for taking time to answer Q's. These are complete long shots, but whilst your here :-) Do you have any idea where the UK Press got the idea games like: BC Racers/Tomb Raider/Scottish Open Golf/Swagman and Thunderhawk were all headed to the Atari Jaguar CD?. I've 'spoken' to a good few Ex-Core artists and coders, along with Richard Barc.who informed me likes of Edge knew the Tomb Raider screens were mock-ups, but any insights you yourself might have would be most welcome. Also, claim has always been that a 'team' at Core produced a tech demo for Sega to showcase the power of the Dreamcast off behind closed doors and this was Scud Racer, but so far no-one has been able to confirm or deny this. Any ideas?.

05 March 2016, 11:41	#46
lost dragon Registered User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: UK Posts: 15	Hello Dan, Huge thanks for taking the time to answer my Q's, it is very much appreciated. The vast majority of the 'work' i do on behalf of sites like Unseen64/GTW is looking into the various claims UK magazines made back in the day and the vast majority of times the answers come back, that what we read had little/no grounding in reality, what so ever :-) Trouble is, many have simply taken said press claims, taken them as fact and then passed off said claims as fact in Lost Games articles, just because they appeared in Mags A-Z and thus the claims have taken on a status that they must be true, as so many mags/sites have said so...

05 March 2016, 12:29	#47
mc68060 With MMU and FPU! Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On your mainboard Posts: 270	Which of the Amiga games you worked on are you most proud of? Do you have a favourite?

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Shatterhand Warhasneverbeensomuchfun Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro / Brazil Age: 41 Posts: 3,450	You didn't enjoy doing it, or is it just that you were unhappy with the final result? Any problems while working on the game? So the final word if the game would have the "music or sfx" option was from the musician, not the coder?(Or at least in your experience ? )

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mc68060 With MMU and FPU! Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On your mainboard Posts: 270	Did people at Core Design know that you were actually Dan of Anarchy?

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Cobe Registered User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Belgrade / Serbia Age: 41 Posts: 999	Postovanje Dane, When you have time I'd like to buy you a beer, if you don't mind I would like you to sign me my physical copy of my unofficial cd32 port of yours Wonderdog http://unofficial-cd32-ports.blogspo...wonderdog.html

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mc68060 With MMU and FPU! Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: On your mainboard Posts: 270	When you wrote that cracktro for Lemmings (Skid Row) did you have any idea that this would become one of the most widely remembered and most oftenly seen cracktros on the Amiga? Probably by hundreds of thousands gamers... Would you have done something differently if you had known that this would become one of the top 3 cracktros that really everybody knows?

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