Building an own module player

14 October 2008, 13:49

Starting from the scratch (included learn C/C++ programming),
what is the effort to do to build a module player for Windows
(i mean not only .mod but ALL Amiga formats)

Can someone post some guidelines to what is needed to reach this goal ?

DH · 14 October 2008, 14:09

Ask bLAZER, he's done his own for Windows 'n' it's an ongoing project as there are so many different formats used for creating music for an Amiga, not all of them have been added yet. http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=35976

BTW. You'll probably never create a player that supports all Amiga music formats as some were never released by their creators

14 October 2008, 14:25

How about unknow formats, then ?
It's impossible to recognize them if creators are silent?

DH · 14 October 2008, 14:33

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Originally Posted by Another World

How about unknow formats, then ?
It's impossible to recognize them if creators are silent?

This was to stop those from ripping the music files from games etc. Only the very clever can possibly create players from them but without the knowledge of how they did it 'n' the original coding, it's probably impossible.

I'm sure some of those authors have offered their coding but others are, lets say, silent or are no longer with us

14 October 2008, 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

.... but without the knowledge of how they did it 'n' the original coding, it's probably impossible ....

Clear, thanks

Summary: i must know original coding to "de-coding" music in right way

(it was better to have only ONE format)

DH · 14 October 2008, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another World

...it was better to have only ONE format...

Would of been great

but I don't think the music would of been as good as it has turned out

But hey! There's plenty of different formats out there for you to play with. Best of luck 'n' hope your creation reaches EAB soon

14 October 2008, 15:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

Best of luck 'n' hope your creation reaches EAB soon

Errr .... my thread was just for curiosity

There's no creation

Anyway, really thanks for info DemonHellraiser

DH · 14 October 2008, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another World

Errr .... my thread was just for curiosity

There's no creation

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another World

Anyway, really thanks for info DemonHellraiser

No problem. Just hope the info 'n' help were useful to you

StingRay · 14 October 2008, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another World

Starting from the scratch (included learn C/C++ programming),
what is the effort to do to build a module player for Windows
(i mean not only .mod but ALL Amiga formats)

Can someone post some guidelines to what is needed to reach this goal ?

If you want to support ALL formats I wish you a lot of fun for the next, say 150 years, or so.

In other words, it is simply impossible. If you really want to start coding a module player, start with simple and well documented formats first (like standard Sound/Noise/Protracker), these are not too hard to implement (if we forget about the "special" features/bugs each of these trackers has) and a good way to learn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another World

How about unknow formats, then ?
It's impossible to recognize them if creators are silent?

Nope, it isn't. You would have to reverse engineer the format which can be tricky. It is no stuff for a beginner anyway.

bLAZER · 14 October 2008, 20:30

Depends on what you mean with "own module player". If you use 3rd party libraries all you do is "glue" them together and add your own stuff. Like using a sound library, a 68000 emulator, a gui library etc. etc.

TCD · 14 October 2008, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by bLAZER

Depends on what you mean with "own module player". If you use 3rd party libraries all you do is "glue" them together and add your own stuff. Like using a sound library, a 68000 emulator, a gui library etc. etc.

Most newer software is done that way

@Another World
Like StingRay said, making an moulde player from scratch is certainly nothing you should start with. You could try it with a well documented format and grab an open source player to look at. If you fully understand how that is structured and done you could have a look at a more complex format. You will also need a quite profound knowledge of the way the Amiga plays the sound. If you were only asking to know how hard it is to write a replayer for a yet unsupported format, I think you got the idea

14 October 2008, 21:54

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Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

If you were only asking to know how hard it is to write a replayer for a yet unsupported format, I think you got the idea

Surely, i got an idea

Thanks to all for these useful suggestions
I will not start nothing, too much work to do

Why i started this thread then ?

Because since i love Amiga music,
i still believe there isn't a real complete good player for Windows,
so this question is born in my mind

P.S. Please don't answer me Deliplayer
I compared his sound to WinUAE more and more times and there's no battle

Sincerely i prefer this http://www.un4seen.com/xmplay.html
combined with this plugin http://dhost.info/pieknyman/#delix

TCD · 14 October 2008, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another World

P.S. Please don't answer me Deliplayer
I compared his sound to WinUAE more and more times and there's no battle

Sincerely i prefer this http://www.un4seen.com/xmplay.html
combined with this plugin http://dhost.info/pieknyman/#delix

Okay, waht about UADE then

Look for the 'Cygwin on Windows' version on the link. It's only command line, but plays a lot of formats and is very accurate

DH · 14 October 2008, 22:11

Fairlight did one called 'FLT Twisted', I think. Don't really know what formats this can play, maybe worth a look when I find the link.

Hmmm can't find original Link, however, I'll post it on the zone if anyone's interested. It has a cool look too

Edit: It was released on October 16th 2002 as a music disk on their 15th Year Of Glory original name 'Twisted Chipster'

Link http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=7789

14 October 2008, 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Okay, waht about UADE then

Look for the 'Cygwin on Windows' version on the link. It's only command line, but plays a lot of formats and is very accurate

You know too much things !

Never heard before, i will take a look .... tomorrow

Now it's time to sleep

GoodNight TCD

TCD · 14 October 2008, 22:14

@DemonHellraiser
Yes please upload it

Would be nice to see it

@Another World
Thanks must go to alexh for letting me know that there is a Windows port

Have a good night

DH · 14 October 2008, 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

@DemonHellraiser
Yes please upload it

Would be nice to see it

Check #14 There's more info and the link for download too in my edit

TCD · 14 October 2008, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

Check #14 There's more info and the link for download too in my edit

Nice one, thanks

Btw : That Fairlight logo also looks quite nice

DH · 14 October 2008, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCyberDruid

Nice one, thanks

Btw : That Fairlight logo also looks quite nice

Doesn't it just

That's sort of where I got the idea for the Fairlight rainbow image I done

TCD · 14 October 2008, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by DemonHellraiser

Doesn't it just

That's sort of where I got the idea for the Fairlight rainbow image I done

Ah, I see

I also like the thingy below the logo

14 October 2008, 14:25	#3
Another World Posts: n/a	How about unknow formats, then ? It's impossible to recognize them if creators are silent? Last edited by Another World; 02 November 2008 at 14:38.

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14 October 2008, 13:49	#1
Another World Posts: n/a	Building an own module player Starting from the scratch (included learn C/C++ programming), what is the effort to do to build a module player for Windows (i mean not only .mod but ALL Amiga formats) Can someone post some guidelines to what is needed to reach this goal ?

14 October 2008, 14:09	#2
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Ask bLAZER, he's done his own for Windows 'n' it's an ongoing project as there are so many different formats used for creating music for an Amiga, not all of them have been added yet. http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=35976 BTW. You'll probably never create a player that supports all Amiga music formats as some were never released by their creators

14 October 2008, 20:30	#10
bLAZER Awesome to the max Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Gothenburg / Sweden Age: 47 Posts: 1,006	Depends on what you mean with "own module player". If you use 3rd party libraries all you do is "glue" them together and add your own stuff. Like using a sound library, a 68000 emulator, a gui library etc. etc.

14 October 2008, 22:11	#14
DH Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Might as well be WORK :( Age: 56 Posts: 4,110	Fairlight did one called 'FLT Twisted', I think. Don't really know what formats this can play, maybe worth a look when I find the link. Hmmm can't find original Link, however, I'll post it on the zone if anyone's interested. It has a cool look too Edit: It was released on October 16th 2002 as a music disk on their 15th Year Of Glory original name 'Twisted Chipster' Link http://pouet.net/prod.php?which=7789 Last edited by DH; 14 October 2008 at 22:18.

14 October 2008, 22:14	#16
TCD HOL/FTP busy bee Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Germany Age: 46 Posts: 31,530	@DemonHellraiser Yes please upload it Would be nice to see it @Another World Thanks must go to alexh for letting me know that there is a Windows port Have a good night

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