Assign Workbench Keys

Retro1234 · 10 June 2016, 23:29

Any utilities to assign keys in Workbench i'd like to have a setup similar to the classic PC setup Del for Delete -Prnt Scrn for Screenshot -Crtl A Select All etc?

Cylon · 10 June 2016, 23:44

You can add tools to the "Tools" menu of Workbench, with ToolsDaemon, or even more with ToolManager and assign keys to those entries.
Sometimes multi-purpose Commodities offer different keys for different tasks, i don't have an example at hand, maybe someone else...

To change the existing key shortcuts in Workbench menues you can use ReKeyIt.

Retro1234 · 10 June 2016, 23:50

Thank you for your reply ReKeyIt does seem like it might be a solution to Del although Delete doesnt seem to have any shortcut key and your idea does seem like overall would work and maybe the only solution - so it maybe what I use

-Acid- · 11 June 2016, 01:03

You can use the commodity FKey to set commands to keys if that helps. It's in the Tools directory by default in a Workbench 3 install.

idrougge · 11 June 2016, 01:04

If you use WB3.9 you can set it using an ARexx script.

Retro1234 · 11 June 2016, 01:29

Thanks ill check out FKey
Never really taken to Arexx already dealing with enough dead languages is it worth learning?

idrougge · 11 June 2016, 02:19

Yeah, ARexx is great and one of the easiest languages on the planet.

Michael · 11 June 2016, 08:32

Go DOpus5 route and be happy with virtually any key shortcuts.

Retro1234 · 11 June 2016, 09:18

Dopus 5 is that the one thats a complete WB replacement I might give it ago again.

Michael · 11 June 2016, 09:58

Yes, I have it configured to do same things as most common FMs do on all systems with Fkeys...
Read, Copy, View, MkDir, Del...

And you can also navigate in listers with cursor keys too.

AMIGASYSTEM · 11 June 2016, 16:02

Another solution would be to use the utility "SetKey" and change your keymap. Without this you can also rename the Keymap (My Keyboard) and run it in Startup-Sequence with SetMap command.
Example: Setmap My Keyboard

Cylon · 11 June 2016, 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMIGASYSTEM

Another solution would be to use the utility "SetKey" and change your keymap. Without this you can also rename the Keymap (My Keyboard) and run it in Startup-Sequence with SetMap command.
Example: Setmap My Keyboard

But those commands are not interpreted by Workbench, they work only from command line, "execute Command" or Shell.

AMIGASYSTEM · 11 June 2016, 17:11

You can choose to do it through the startup-sequence through comanto "SetMap", or load it from the Workbench editing Keymaps in use.

idrougge · 11 June 2016, 17:50

What you could do is use ToolsDaemon (which is a must on any system below OS3.5) to set a function key to call C

elete for the selected file.

daxb · 11 June 2016, 20:24

Hmm... one of two posts I wrote at midday/afternoon that don`t appeared. Here we go again.

You can use DOpus5 as WB-replacement what is really powerfull or just like each other programm (e.g. behave like DOpus4). So, WB-replacement isn`t a must.

I also would say ARexx is easy to learn. If you know a programming language already than it is much easier. The best is many programms have an ARexx port. So you can communicate and be able doing great things. Useful libraries exist too. All users should use it.

There are several tools that provide shortcuts like FKey, ToolsDeamon, DOpus, MCP, WB3.9, ... Some are more or less comfortable/usable.

Retro1234 · 11 June 2016, 20:26

Once I installed DOpus 5 and it had a whole new way of displaying icons and everything and was put off. With DOpus 5 can I open a window and click a back arrow like on Windows?

daxb · 12 June 2016, 15:51

Yes you can.

DOpus5 can display lister in text mode, icon mode and icon plus mode. Choose what you like. Remember that using/knowing DOpus and spot all the possibilities take some time. A lot of add-ons are available and the manual is sooner or later a must.

About hotkeys. Most tools that support them don`t work global. I.e. for example only if WB- or DOpus screen is active. MCP hotkeys work global what means they can launched from everywhere (if multitasking is not disabled). Both is useful, so remember before add a hotkey.

Daedalus · 13 June 2016, 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retro1234

Thanks ill check out FKey
Never really taken to Arexx already dealing with enough dead languages is it worth learning?

If you plan on using your Amiga much, it would be very useful - dead or not. And if you've ever programmed before you'll be able to hack together simple scripts without actually learning anything.

Personally I use FKey on 3.9 to add a delete command (RAmiga+Del), and the ARexx script is probably about 5 lines or so. I can even post it here for you later on if you like.

idrougge · 13 June 2016, 17:02

You don't even need FKey to add a delete command on 3.9.
http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/AmigaOS...YBOARD_command

10 June 2016, 23:29	#1
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Assign Workbench Keys Any utilities to assign keys in Workbench i'd like to have a setup similar to the classic PC setup Del for Delete -Prnt Scrn for Screenshot -Crtl A Select All etc?

11 June 2016, 16:02	#11
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	Another solution would be to use the utility "SetKey" and change your keymap. Without this you can also rename the Keymap (My Keyboard) and run it in Startup-Sequence with SetMap command. Example: Setmap My Keyboard Last edited by AMIGASYSTEM; 23 June 2016 at 21:41.

11 June 2016, 17:50	#14
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	What you could do is use ToolsDaemon (which is a must on any system below OS3.5) to set a function key to call Celete for the selected file.

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10 June 2016, 23:44	#2
Cylon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Europe Posts: 470	You can add tools to the "Tools" menu of Workbench, with ToolsDaemon, or even more with ToolManager and assign keys to those entries. Sometimes multi-purpose Commodities offer different keys for different tasks, i don't have an example at hand, maybe someone else... To change the existing key shortcuts in Workbench menues you can use ReKeyIt.

10 June 2016, 23:50	#3
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Thank you for your reply ReKeyIt does seem like it might be a solution to Del although Delete doesnt seem to have any shortcut key and your idea does seem like overall would work and maybe the only solution - so it maybe what I use

11 June 2016, 01:03	#4
-Acid- Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: South Shields Posts: 812	You can use the commodity FKey to set commands to keys if that helps. It's in the Tools directory by default in a Workbench 3 install.

11 June 2016, 01:04	#5
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	If you use WB3.9 you can set it using an ARexx script.

11 June 2016, 01:29	#6
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Thanks ill check out FKey Never really taken to Arexx already dealing with enough dead languages is it worth learning?

11 June 2016, 02:19	#7
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	Yeah, ARexx is great and one of the easiest languages on the planet.

11 June 2016, 08:32	#8
Michael A1260T/PPC/BV/SCSI/NET Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Moscow / Russia Posts: 839	Go DOpus5 route and be happy with virtually any key shortcuts.

11 June 2016, 09:18	#9
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Dopus 5 is that the one thats a complete WB replacement I might give it ago again.

11 June 2016, 09:58	#10
Michael A1260T/PPC/BV/SCSI/NET Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Moscow / Russia Posts: 839	Yes, I have it configured to do same things as most common FMs do on all systems with Fkeys... Read, Copy, View, MkDir, Del... And you can also navigate in listers with cursor keys too.

11 June 2016, 17:11	#13
AMIGASYSTEM Registered User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Brindisi (Italy) Age: 70 Posts: 8,248	You can choose to do it through the startup-sequence through comanto "SetMap", or load it from the Workbench editing Keymaps in use.

11 June 2016, 20:24	#15
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Hmm... one of two posts I wrote at midday/afternoon that don`t appeared. Here we go again. You can use DOpus5 as WB-replacement what is really powerfull or just like each other programm (e.g. behave like DOpus4). So, WB-replacement isn`t a must. I also would say ARexx is easy to learn. If you know a programming language already than it is much easier. The best is many programms have an ARexx port. So you can communicate and be able doing great things. Useful libraries exist too. All users should use it. There are several tools that provide shortcuts like FKey, ToolsDeamon, DOpus, MCP, WB3.9, ... Some are more or less comfortable/usable.

11 June 2016, 20:26	#16
Retro1234 Phone Homer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: 5150 Posts: 5,773	Once I installed DOpus 5 and it had a whole new way of displaying icons and everything and was put off. With DOpus 5 can I open a window and click a back arrow like on Windows?

12 June 2016, 15:51	#17
daxb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 3,303	Yes you can. DOpus5 can display lister in text mode, icon mode and icon plus mode. Choose what you like. Remember that using/knowing DOpus and spot all the possibilities take some time. A lot of add-ons are available and the manual is sooner or later a must. About hotkeys. Most tools that support them don`t work global. I.e. for example only if WB- or DOpus screen is active. MCP hotkeys work global what means they can launched from everywhere (if multitasking is not disabled). Both is useful, so remember before add a hotkey.

13 June 2016, 17:02	#19
idrougge Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Stockholm Posts: 4,332	You don't even need FKey to add a delete command on 3.9. http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/AmigaOS...YBOARD_command

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